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Bladewire 10-28-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22357350)
One of the victims was a lady who survived the holocaust only to get killed by a Nazi here...

Holy fuck that's so sad

Matt 26z 10-28-2018 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22357350)
One of the victims was a lady who survived the holocaust only to get killed by a Nazi here...

"survived the holocaust"

Don't be so dramatic.

What you meant to say is that she didn't get bit by a flea carrying typhus while staying at the internment camp.

Bladewire 10-28-2018 10:54 PM

↑↑↑ Russian fake nic troll thinks we care what the Putin semen in his mouth spews

astronaut x 10-29-2018 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22356719)
Dude there are millions of people that love Trump and millions that hate him. The one thing this shooter and the magabomber have in common is mental illness.

And you have something in common with the MagaBomber.

pimpmaster9000 10-29-2018 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22357499)
"survived the holocaust"

Don't be so dramatic.

What you meant to say is that she didn't get bit by a flea carrying typhus while staying at the internment camp.

yes yes they went through this elaborate plan to get zyklon b and make special rooms to kill fleas while our grandparents killed fleas with a tub of water and submerging clothes in them...the millions of people who all reported the same fucking thing they saw with their own eyes probably got "Brainwashed" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the problem is gab attracts the dumbest mother fuckers :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

VRPdommy 10-29-2018 08:24 AM

I am just wondering...
where on the internet this guy was getting his hate from.

Pittsburgh does not home many like this and the area is full of immigrants of the past looking for work when they got here.
And the Carnegie's and Westinghouse types in the area were more than happy for the cheap labor in the steel mills, coke batteries and coal mines.
You know, the dirty dangerous jobs nobody wanted to do, that made America great as they built it.

That hate was not born there. But it dam near created the place.
Welch, Slovok's, Jew, Italian, Irish, Croation, and others found a home here building America.

The fact of his statements 'screw your optics' suggests someone was attempting to restrain him from within the group he was part of. Just my simple observation. I'm sure the FBI will route this out. But I hope, quietly.

Rochard 10-29-2018 09:40 AM

I fail to understand why anyone would hate another race or gender or whatever. Just so much fucking hate.

dyna mo 10-29-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22357731)
I fail to understand why anyone would hate another race or gender or whatever. Just so much fucking hate.

why not try to understand then? the only way to solve an issue is to understand the issue. perhaps educate yourself on the human condition and why "hate" exists and how it's dealt with by educated adults.

Bladewire 10-29-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22357731)
I fail to understand why anyone would hate another race or gender or whatever. Just so much fucking hate.

It's a mental illness

dyna mo 10-29-2018 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357740)
It's a mental illness

more likely just [willfull] ignorance. IMO!

VRPdommy 10-29-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22357747)
more likely just [willfull] ignorance. IMO!

Hate use to put folks in isolation because those who have been at the focus of it understood it.
evidently, not many have been the target or can understand the concept of it.

Friendships/Alliances can be built by those that have the same hate. Those that desire power tap into it for their own purpose. But they can not always control what they create. Each person has their own breaking point.

If I allow anyone to hate you, I may be the next focus of attention for some other reason.

If you fertilize that algae, it will grow until it burns itself out and nothing is left.

Society has unknowingly allowed this to take root again. For most are passive folks. And we don't like talking about the ugly side of our own humanity.

dyna mo 10-29-2018 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22357769)
Hate use to put folks in isolation because those who have been at the focus of it understood it.
evidently, not many have been the target or can understand the concept of it.

Friendships/Alliances can be built by those that have the same hate. Those that desire power tap into it for their own purpose. But they can not always control what they create. Each person has their own breaking point.

If I allow anyone to hate you, I may be the next focus of attention for some other reason.

If you fertilize that algae, it will grow until it burns itself out and nothing is left.

Society has unknowingly allowed this to take root again. For most are passive folks. And we don't like talking about the ugly side of our own humanity.

"hate", to use the most simplistic of terms, has existed since the dawn of humankind.

ghjghj 10-29-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22357499)
What you meant to say is that she didn't get bit by a flea carrying typhus while staying at the internment camp.

:2 cents:

VRPdommy 10-29-2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22357775)
"hate", to use the most simplistic of terms, has existed since the dawn of humankind.

And is why there has always been those around to take advantage of it for their own purpose.

I see it quickly in my circles when anyone lumps groups of folks together that they do not even know more than a few of to make a judgement of the group.
They do not use terms like...
...many of these people
...some of these people
it always all of these people.

I judge each for their own on how I see them act and treat others.

The haters are normally more aggressive and most remain silent of them in their acts.
And they grow. A good source to tap into for power and influence. Very effective.

Stopping the fertilization will not completely stop it, but keep it from growing to rapidly.

dyna mo 10-29-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22357783)
And is why there has always been those around to take advantage of it for their own purpose.

I see it quickly in my circles when anyone lumps groups of folks together that they do not even know more than a few of to make a judgement of the group.
They do not use terms like...
...many of these people
...some of these people
it always all of these people.

I judge each for their own on how I see them act and treat others.

The haters are normally more aggressive and most remain silent of them in their acts.
And they grow. A good source to tap into for power and influence. Very effective.

Stopping the fertilization will not completely stop it, but keep it from growing to rapidly.

that's human nature. we can't legislate away "hate".

VRPdommy 10-29-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22357787)
that's human nature. we can't legislate away "hate".

Didn't say you could.
But there is no need to allow it to be fertilized.

And + Shame is more effective than any law.
You assume to much.
Both might be required.

HairyChick 10-29-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22357148)
LOL your holocaust denial website is fucking hilarious...I guess my grandfather lied about what happened to him in that concentration camp :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

My grandfather, too, plus several others I've met. Gee, they even faked the numbered tattoo. A friend wrote a book about his experiences. Must be a vivid imagination, huh?

pimpmaster9000 10-29-2018 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns (Post 22358001)
My grandfather, too, plus several others I've met. Gee, they even faked the numbered tattoo. A friend wrote a book about his experiences. Must be a vivid imagination, huh?

When hitler said that they must exterminate the jews, about 100 times, I must have misunderstood with my fluent german LOL...deniers are the dumbest fucks ever...

ghjghj 10-29-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22358008)
When hitler said that they must exterminate the jews, about 100 times

Show us where he said that...

kane 10-29-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ghjghj (Post 22358011)
Show us where he said that...

Adolf Hitler had provided clues to his ambition to commit mass genocide as early as 1922, telling journalist Josef Hell, “Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows—at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example—as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews."

"We are going to destroy the Jews. They are not going to get away with what they did on 9 November 1918. The day of reckoning has come."
To the Czechoslovakian foreign minister (January 21, 1939) quoted in Sarah Ann Gordon, Hitler, Germans, and the "Jewish Question" pg. 130

Seems pretty clear.

ghjghj 10-29-2018 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22358032)
"We are going to destroy the Jews. They are not going to get away with what they did on 9 November 1918. The day of reckoning has come."
To the Czechoslovakian foreign minister (January 21, 1939) quoted in Sarah Ann Gordon, Hitler, Germans, and the "Jewish Question" pg. 130

The NSDAP were meticulous record keepers...

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Overall, no direct Hitler order for the Final Solution has ever been found
https://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/v...i?article=1170

https://i.imgur.com/yMCnaMk.jpg

How exactly was any of this coordinated and executed without a paper trail? Bug spray receipts notwithstanding.

VRPdommy 10-30-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ghjghj (Post 22358041)
The NSDAP were meticulous record keepers...



https://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/v...i?article=1170

https://i.imgur.com/yMCnaMk.jpg

How exactly was any of this coordinated and executed without a paper trail? Bug spray receipts notwithstanding.

Most of Berlin and larger cities were pretty much on fire at the close of the war.

Berlin may be the largest city fire in mankind's history. I would not expect all of it to survive. Not even half of it that was not directly protected by a bunker that never got hit and there were not many at the close. many of those were burned since they knew they were going to be tried. That is how many of the actors escaped to other country's.
Unless you think there were fireproof and waterproof documents and just no will to burn/destroy what may have survived....

ghjghj 10-30-2018 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22358794)
I would not expect all of it to survive.

You would expect something though and there is nothing.

bronco67 10-30-2018 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357740)
It's a mental illness

I guess you could call being an asshole some form of mental illness.

Paul Markham 11-01-2018 01:31 AM

What is it in the American culture that leads people to murder so many?

The murder rate in America puts them in the same category of some 3rd world nations

King Mark 11-01-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22359503)
What is it in the American culture that leads people to murder so many?

The murder rate in America puts them in the same category of some 3rd world nations

Short answer is racism in denial.

crockett 11-01-2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22357666)
I am just wondering...
where on the internet this guy was getting his hate from.

Pittsburgh does not home many like this and the area is full of immigrants of the past looking for work when they got here.
And the Carnegie's and Westinghouse types in the area were more than happy for the cheap labor in the steel mills, coke batteries and coal mines.
You know, the dirty dangerous jobs nobody wanted to do, that made America great as they built it.

That hate was not born there. But it dam near created the place.
Welch, Slovok's, Jew, Italian, Irish, Croation, and others found a home here building America.

The fact of his statements 'screw your optics' suggests someone was attempting to restrain him from within the group he was part of. Just my simple observation. I'm sure the FBI will route this out. But I hope, quietly.

Gab, 4chan and that racist forum I forgot its name.

crockett 11-01-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22359503)
What is it in the American culture that leads people to murder so many?

The murder rate in America puts them in the same category of some 3rd world nations

We have a very large population and "everything" is reported.. Somewhere like Russia when the cops kill someone its.. oh we found him dead in a ditch from natural death by gun shot to the head and no one questions it...

VRPdommy 11-01-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22359576)
Gab, 4chan and that racist forum I forgot its name.

You may have described the platform(s) for which he did at least 'some' of his communications,
but to what 'group of people' was he communicating. That is the question.

There are plenty of hate groups out there. They plant a seed and fertilize it. But some plants grow fast naturally.

It is hard to get at the root on the growth of a bad weed, but you do not need to fertilize it.
That part you can stop.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/f...lemma/#video-2


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