Why?

Mass migration is proven to cost 10s of $billions a year. Education, health, police, housing, etc. Then worse of all it lowers wages at the bottom of the scale, driving spending and taxes down while the need to spend is driven up.

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Higher taxes to pay for more Social security, Medicaid, Income Security, etc. Is that your idea of "a better, stronger nation."?

Migrants must be able to support themselves totally and contribute to their new home.

If anyone can make a good argument for mass unregulated migration. Please try I'm willing to discuss facts.

What your little chart completely ignores is military spending eats up 54% of the total budget.

Furthermore, migrant workers who are not getting paid under the table get taxes and Social Security taken out of their pay even though most will never get any of those benefits back. If they're getting paid under the table then the corporations are to blame. They are also putting money back into the local economy and paying taxes on those goods bought.

I know that military spending is high.

Low wage workers contribute less than they take out of the system. Educating their children, health, housing, policing, etc. They are lowering wages which means more people have less to spend. Then as they retire and stay in the West, they expect pensions. Then there are the workers being paid under the table because they can.

The biggest problem now is paying the huge bills mass migration has caused. With more people on lower wages it has lowered tax revenues and spending.

#AbolishICENow

You don't know very much about the US. Pensions??

what about trying to go to the roots of the drug problem ?

why do americans have to pay so MUCH for medical treatement and legal drugs that they have to buy this drugs MUCH cheaper on the street?

the drug problem is a home made problem. and if you don´t know it you are fucking uniformed.

diabetics have to travel to canada because they get the insulin (produced in america) there for a third of the price.
almost all drugs prescribed in the USA against stress or burnout contain heroin.

and you don't think the millions of people who get it written on their prescription every day will be addicted to it?

just like your country can't survive without the cheap productions from low-wage countries - just like drug-addicted people can't survive without the cheap supplies.

You know it's high? It's not even on the chart you fucking moron.

What's the source of that chart? Some conservative asshole made that.

It's doesn't fucking matter. Trump is making it out to be that thousands of people are going to be storming the border. This is not the case. They are coming to seek asylum. Which means they go to a port of entry, talk to US customs, and apply for asylum.

On top of this, ninety percent of these people drop out - because they have to stop and get work to feed themselves.

Then... The military is legally unable to do ANYTHING. They are legally unable to arrest anyone. The US military is not to be used for arresting refugees on US soil.

This is a massive waste of money, time, and resources, with the only intention of helping Republicans win elections during the midterms.

This should be against the law.

Ok, it's still an accurate representation of what's happening.

Armed Migrants in Caravan Opened Fire on Mexican Cops, Say Authorities

I just found a video of the hordes and what they are doing. It has apparently been going on for a long fucking time. Oh, how could I be so naive?

Oh, Alas and alack and woe is me.



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Thommy, Democrat Cory Booker Leads Wall Street Dems Vote to Keep Drug Prices High

But I was referring to the Mexican drug cartels who murder people and are involved in drug trafficking, and also human trafficking and weapons trafficking. An open border makes it easy for them. True or false?

Obama sent the troops right before the caravan arrived

Trump is sending them a month early purely for political purposes.

A complete waste of resources.

What do you like more...your high crime rate or diversity?

The problem of illegal migration goes further than the US.

So old Americans get no assistance from the US government.

A real problem in America are prescription drugs. Two articles to compare.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org...on-statistics/

https://talbottcampus.com/prescripti...se-statistics/

Allow this lot in and far more will come.

Were you against Obama trying to build up border security or just Trump doing it?

By implying he's doing it to get votes, implies that more people want it done than don't.

Make a financial case for the benefits of allowing 100,000 illegal migrants into the US. Then maybe we can discuss how much of a waste of money it is.

So were you not a single male of working age when you migrated Paul ?

Remind us again why you did that ?

What are they doing, barbed wiring the entire southern border? I may as well try to stop a swarm of locust from entering a football stadium by waving my arms around on the 50 yard line.

This is all a show for mouthbreather voters to check Republican on Tuesday.

good ole USA, its gangster army is all over the world, enforcing the protection racket but the USA does not want to let people run away form its foreign policy and expects them to live in tent cities in the desert so that the good ole USA can keep dropping bombs on what is left of their country...

meanwhile low skill USIS invaders are doing actual acts of terrorism all over the world but this, somehow, does not count :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Reagan had Alzheimer's while in office, his mind was going so good comparison, they are/were both mentally ill.

finally something we both can agree on

Paul, let´s see it for a moment like this:

assuming my country would exploit the czech republic. we would not only destroy the economy but also blow so much poison into the environment that the czech republic would become a sahara. we would support every corrupt regime in czech that declares to czech citizens that there are people in czech who are responsible for it and have to be eliminated.

we would sell CZ the weapons with which they could then exterminate these elements and not even want money for it but accept bonds.

if the situation have reached point were you and your family couldn't live there anymore and you wanted to get out of the country - let's say to us - then we'd show you the stinky finger and send you back to the shithole we made out of your country.

we would declare you an enemy of the state and tell you every day how much money you still owe us for the weapons.

how long do you think it would take for you and your family to become terrorists to cut our heads off whenever you have the opportunity?

I didn't apply for asylum.

I moved because I met Eva a Czech national, the UK made it very hard for me to work there with constant laws passed so they could close businesses like mine down. Something they are still trying to do. Czech girls are prettier than English girls, more fun to work withand paying them what I paid in London impressed them.

I also prefer Czech to the UK. So applied for citizenship, a license to open a company here and we made our marriage legal in Czech. We moved across before Czech joined the EU.

What do you suggest they do to stop them coming in?

You live in Quebec one of the least diverse places in Canada. Arguably the most racist province as well. Not that you are a racist or support it. I just don't think you should front like you live in a melting pot. Also aren't you not even in the city of Montreal? Come on you aren't wrong about some of the rhetoric being spouted here but you aren't being honest either about where you live.

Yes. Do you know what the troops did? They shoveled horse shit. No kidding.

We should not be sending troops to the border when they can't do anything.

The photos of the barbed wire are comical. In a defensive situation where someone is manning a machine gun nest behind it, it works great. But to put the barbed wire on the ground and then just walk away does nothing.

What do you suggest they do to stop people walking across the borders en mass?

Stop getting your information from Fox News.

run for your life, women and children are coming!

Do you still beat your wife?

Yes, Kansas City has a higher crime rate then any of us would like. Not much I can do about that except attempt to remain active in neighborhood improvement when I can.

My particular neighborhood does not have a high crime rate. There have not been any murders in the past 18 years that I know of. We do not see the Police around very often. I know of 2 break ins in the past 18 years that I am aware of.

Most of the Gang stuff is West and South of here and generally speaking involves gang shit, so just like other Urban areas with those issues, it does not often spill over very much.

I enjoy a diverse group of people.

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For those that do not follow Bloom County, Opus is holding the new and improved RONCO Turnip Twaddler.

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According to this you get a big F in the crime rate department. There's more than a few B&Es where you live.

But I can respect that. If you're happy where you are who am I to say anything? But one of the top priorities where I choose live is to have a low crime rate. It's probably #1. And having a low crime rate = lack of diversity.

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Hiya there Diomed

You know nothing about Quebec ...

... and you calling a region racist ... is priceless ....

You ARE the MOST racist poster on this board :2 cents:

Born and raised and lived here 35 years, so yes I know Quebec. Calling me racist? what did I even post that is racist? Maybe you love Quebec and are free to defend it, but outside of Montreal and a couple other larger cities, in the regions people are not very tolerant at all. To say that they are not bigoted and protective of language and culture is an outright lie.

I can understand what their motivation is, while I don't agree with it, Quebec is the least tolerant province. Anyone who has lived here even a small amount of time have heard and witnessed French on English or English on French attacks.

FFS look at the recent overwhelming win in the Provincial election.

There's never a valid point to make it's just - YOU ARE A RACIST. YOU ARE A WHITE SUPREMACIST. YOU ARE A NAZI. It's comical.

I gave you the geography stuff already.

I am not in Raytown. I am near Raytown but not in it. Raytown has it's own issues.

Yes, there is crime around me, and as I said, I do what I can to help when I can.

I do not abandon a city and friends that I have grown very fond of because of the actions of some idiots.

You are up near Boston, right? Boston proper? or suburb. And yes, I know that the Boston area has a much lower crime rate than KC.


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