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Paul Markham 11-17-2018 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22368242)
the British public are like jumping out of a plane with a parachute that doesnīt work, being told they can pull another spare chute, but theyīre going to hold on and hope this chute works :)

Brexit was the wrong move like Trump was for the US...

idiots will continue to be idiots :2 cents:
Or is this completely Theresa May's fault?

She took negotiations down to the wire with the exit date a short time before the next round of EU elections. Which if follow the course of before will produce more right wing MEPs set on reigning back the EU.

I'm not sure if we leave completely we can continue to trade with the EU under WTO rules. The rules the rest of the world, without a trade deal, use to trade. The threat of London no longer being a main financial centre is BS. London has so many non-EU finance companies based there that non-EU countries can and do trade financially in the EU. 2008 proved that the finance markets are global.

WTO trade rules apply to both sides. Customs problems apply to both sides, passport controls apply to both sides. The threat of losing so much business apply to both sides.

But underlying everything is this proves that Brussels will stop at nothing, will not reform and will continue to dominate Europe. The fact that Spain has so many problems proves they are incapable of running Europe.

Smack dat 11-17-2018 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22367492)
Not quite right as the strength of the pound on international markets effects import prices. Remember when Germany printed money?

The question that's still left is will the Ģ38bn divorce bill still be payable as it seems the UK got a shit deal?
Can they just not refuse to pay the Ģ38 billion?
Why is there in the first place?

wehateporn 11-17-2018 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22368083)
Jesus which source of utter shite did you get that from ?

I run 3 businesses and Brexit is somewhere between shit and fucking disaster depending on the business.
You really haven't looked into this :2 cents:

klinton 11-17-2018 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22367709)
2. in the time of WW 2 germany was a monarchy and not a republic where people could decide anything. we fucked our king out - you still live in that era..
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"you fucked your King out " ??????

if not Soviets and Churchill (and US of course), you will be living now somewhere near Yalta, enjoying free slave labour of local people in your lebensraum. on the piles of skulls of millions of people.

Also, naming Hitler as "King" is really, well, kind of..hmmmm...

thommy 11-17-2018 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22368571)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"you fucked your King out " ??????

if not Soviets and Churchill (and US of course), you will be living now somewhere near Yalta, enjoying free slave labour of local people in your lebensraum. on the piles of skulls of millions of people.

Also, naming Hitler as "King" is really, well, kind of..hmmmm...
you should read before you write.

this was about the 1st WW and than we HAD an emperor named wilhelm II

ōr did your history lessons start in 1933 ?

klinton 11-17-2018 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22368582)
you should read before you write.

this was about the 1st WW and than we HAD an emperor named wilhelm II

ōr did your history lessons start in 1933 ?
after all these years, I still see good, how about you ?

".in the time of WW 2 germany was a monarchy and not a republic where people could decide anything. we fucked our king out - you still live in that era."

Paul Markham 11-17-2018 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22368571)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"you fucked your King out " ??????

if not Soviets and Churchill (and US of course), you will be living now somewhere near Yalta, enjoying free slave labour of local people in your lebensraum. on the piles of skulls of millions of people.

Also, naming Hitler as "King" is really, well, kind of..hmmmm...
Stop replying to the idiot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhel...German_Emperor

Will tell you about the King of Germany.

Paul Markham 11-17-2018 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Smack dat (Post 22368544)
Can they just not refuse to pay the Ģ38 billion?
Why is there in the first place?
Theresa May said the UK still needs to pay the Ģ38bn

Not sure what it's for, I can only assume it's for EU spending outside the UK.

The problem with the deal is it sets no firm date for the UK to leave. After the deal is signed the UK then needs the EU to allow the UK to leave.

thommy 11-17-2018 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22368595)
after all these years, I still see good, how about you ?

".in the time of WW 2 germany was a monarchy and not a republic where people could decide anything. we fucked our king out - you still live in that era."
that was a simple writing mistake if you look one line before you would know what i was referring to.

you really donīt have to tell me about the history of my country - i know it MUCH better as you will ever do.

thommy 11-17-2018 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22368601)
Theresa May said the UK still needs to pay the Ģ38bn

Not sure what it's for, I can only assume it's for EU spending outside the UK.
I thought you know ALL about it and now you donīt even know how the EU works ?

http://www.iiea.com/ftp/Publications...%20MGTutty.pdf

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The problem with the deal is it sets no firm date for the UK to leave. After the deal is signed the UK then needs the EU to allow the UK to leave.
sure it have a fixed date
March 23. 2019 at midnight.

you do not even know basic facts but you know what would be right and wrong.
thatīs why many people here call that paulmarkhamming - what means: know shit - talk shit.

klinton 11-17-2018 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22368653)
you really donīt have to tell me about the history of my country .
:) good !
too bad that it wasn't only history of your country, if you know what I mean...
but yeah, it's a history already and NEVER again to be repeated :winkwink:

Paul Markham 11-17-2018 10:42 AM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1NM0EU

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BERLIN (Reuters) - Britain crashing out of the European Union without a divorce deal would have disastrous consequences for companies and workers in Britain and across Europe, the head of the BDI German Federation of Industry said on Saturday.
Something we already knew.

marcop 11-18-2018 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22367573)
whenever I read your drivel I expect it to be written by a 17 year old that dropped out of school early and gets his "education" from social media.

but you are old enough, you have been around during the times you people destroyed your own industries through incompetence, strikes and the desperate attempt of profit maximisation. Thatcher and the Unions - you can't thank them enough.

UK and Germany are very much alike in many things, yet the Germans have a healthy economy with low unemployement and still a lot of producing industry. Both countries are in the EU, both have a large percentage of immigrants, both are net payers to the EU.

And do you have any idea how much money the reunification of Germany has cost?

Yet it's NEVER the fault of any UK government or your own people but ALWAYS the fault of the EU when things don't go the way you want it - just as countries like Italy, Greece etc use the EU as scapegoat for their own incompetency and corruption.

Is the EU perfect? By far not.

Did it give us unprecedented 70+ years of peace, economic growth, contributed to the fall of the communist Warsaw pact and gives its people the freedom to move around and live in whatever country they like?

The fuck yes.

And you idiots still don't get it - because you wouldn't realize a good thing even if it slapped you in the face.

And your migrants? 60% of them are non-EU - India, Pakistan etc - the countries you previously ruined. You can fucking leave the EU as much as you want, you'd only lose your Polish plumbers and nurses but you are still stuck with all the rest (the evil arabs, you know?).

Good luck, man, you'll need it.
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but wait - you don't even live in the UK - whatever happens to your own people will not even bother you while you keep sitting in the EU you so desperately want to leave and enjoy the benefits. Just like your hero Nigel Farage who still enjoys the money he gets paid by the EU while he disappeared from the disaster he initiated.

Hypocrit.
Beautifully put, Stefan.

I view Brexit with a mix of schadenfreude and sadness... mostly schedenfreude, sadly.

thommy 11-18-2018 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 22368836)
Beautifully put, Stefan.

I view Brexit with a mix of schadenfreude and sadness... mostly schedenfreude, sadly.
I have to hold myself away from schadensfreude - but i can understand what you mean.

the brexit is the same stupid idea as a president named trump.
at the end there will be ONLY losers on every side.

the brexit and trump are the result of stupidity, gullibility and egoism. beer table economists who unfortunately also have the right to vote. it has its reason that people are only allowed to vote at a certain age. unfortunately, only age does not protect against stupidity.
this is the flip side of democracy.

Paul Markham 11-18-2018 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 22368836)
Beautifully put, Stefan.

I view Brexit with a mix of schadenfreude and sadness... mostly schedenfreude, sadly.
The problem with the "economy" is the price many British citizens have to pay for it.

Record numbers on welfare, record numbers in poverty, record numbers with frozen wage packets, etc. Then the future where all Europe will be ruled by Brussels bureaucrats.

They have and continue to pass laws that suit no one properly and most certainly do not suit the UK. The Euro mess is a great indication of that. Creating a currency, having no central control on taxes, spending and borrowing and then giving it to anyone who asked. Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Belgium all borrowed too much.

Now that one country has decided enough is enough. They set terms that mean the UK needs the EU's permission to become a completely self ruling country. Knowing a Hard Brexit will harm everyone in the EU. When you're that desperate to hold onto power and scare future countries from leaving. You know who is really scared. Would a free trade area be better then the EU?


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