Putin is going to cause a lot of his population to be killed. Sad

Hey man, I watched this Soldier Orange movie and it was kind of funny. Fresh perspective on ww2 for me, yes, but this whole occupation of Holland by Germans with Nazi twist seemed more like a picnic to me. Or more like a dispute among two friends, with one of them being mad (Germans) and other trying to be reasonable with him (Dutch).
German behaviour towards Dutch had nothing in common with Germans behaviour towards Jews, Poles or Russians etc.
Also, I loved, how the "brave" dutch resistance was saying frequently "but its dangerous" lol. Such a resistance...The only brave person in this movie from Dutch people was the Queen, as it says a lot...
Its not what WW2 was about. If you want to watch what WW2 was about, watch some movie about Holocaust (many of them), occupation of Poland/ Soviet Union OR the best movie about Eastern front (and maybe the best movie about wars in general, "apocalypse now" in Russian, not for pussies). "Come and see" / "idi & smotri" is the title, and its the real shit...Especially 2nd part of it. Its on youtube, but i wont post it here, since its very brutal (and honest).

Nope still dont get it.. explain, in the case of Scotland, what exactly you are trying to say.

The Orange Soldier, (Soldaat van Oranje) is another movie, is much older. After the war the writer write a book about the students he went to university with and what happened to them during the war. He went with a small ship to England and returned to fight with the resistance. The group students also had friends who supported the Nazis. I have read some about politics after WW II, the people responsible or helping the nazis got the best positions again in politics .. they hoped for a new period, but that only happened after the 60's.

The Orange Soldier said after the war, "suddenly everyone was in the resistance during WW II, while it was a small group". Look at Ukrain, there also is a big group in favour of Russia. These people also won't resist and help Russia. In Srebrenica former neighbours slaughtered each other.

If there is a war needed between European countries to get Crimea back, it will not be worth it. And most in Crimea support Russians. I for sure wouldn't start fighting. I learned from our Queen that it is saver to stay away.

I haven't heard much about the war from my grandparents, don't talk about it. They lived on the farmer site of Holland and i bet they where not hungry. I only know family gave shelter to a familiy of jews. The father and mother got killed 20 years later in the first terror attack in Holland when people from a former colony hijacked a train in Holland.

Recently i saw a dutch tv serie about one of the richest dutch people after WW II Pieter Menten. Till in 1976 a Dutch journalist exposed where the money came from. Unbelievable how many people helped Pieter Menten and didn't help to get the paintings he collected to WW II back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieter_Menten

Another reason not to get into a war, big change a big % of the people in your land doesn't care or support the enemy. And why should i risk my life for the EU when it goes wrong in Crimea. So i can watch on TV how Merkel makes a deal with Russia for more gas to make more money so Russia can buy weapons to fight us?
I am not falling for that one.

Off and on the Scotts want an idependence from the Crown, if they ever vote over 50 % then they get it. Why not the Crimean ( Bask, Northern Irish, etc.) populations. Cannot make it any clearer:2 cents:

The ways are different, don't you understand?

We, in Ukraine, asked ourself the same silly question, why would a friendly country ( more or less ) invade Ukraine.

maybe he stopped consider you as "friends" when you kicked out the Victor from the East :PPP in 2014
and basically wanted to cut off economical and (soon, expected) military ties with RUS and choose another partners...

"In 1951 the Dutch government refused a Polish request for Menten's extradition. "
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I see there is a movie made out of it for international audience.
https://www.jweekly.com/2017/02/24/m...-war-criminal/

well, this person should be hanged/executed in 1945 or 1946, thats all. He personally robbed and helped to kill 1000s of people in Poland during ww2.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

better link
https://coub.com/view/10623z

In a 'neutral' newspaper in Holland I now read the EU is saying the same as mentioned here. After Verhofstadt and Timmerfrans made false promises they couldn't keep, the EU don't care about Ukrain. And they say it is just made op by Porosjenko because he wants to be elected but looks like he wil lose cause people want peace. Now France and Germany start talks with Russia. Probably about the Nordstream II pipeline that seems to be supported now by the EU.

Indeed in Ireland any "way" is driven on the left.:1orglaugh

Because you kiss ass of the EU " apparatchicks" instead sticking with your historical ally...Dumb say I.

For 200 years they couldn't have a vote.

The Northern Irish did actually have a vote in 1973.

The Basques have never existed as their own country, they have always been part of Spain, and it's part of the Spanish constitution that they voted for in the 70's that says they cant have a vote.

This is GFY level of logic. At some point ass kissing is better than cock sucking. Dude, you don't understand a thing.

I lived in Ukraine for too long.

They just understood Ukraine was not going to obey and do as they please. Simple. Problem is Maidan was taken over by wrong elites.

In Soviet Union maybe?

SU & UA combined. I should have left much sooner. I wanted out when I was 10.

You hid it " on the button" just as Basques never existed in their own country, neither the Ukrainians until Chruschev gave them one...:2 cents:

Did you meant "ass licking " ??:1orglaugh

the best part is how similar they are

"Want out" - it is Ukraine national idea.

Consider the time frame you are operating is narrower than mine. I was raised seeing the ads reflecting the 60s in the US. So, dude, please, do not send me stupid ass shit anymore.

When I "wanted out" it was the Soviet Union times... but not much changed really after that.

Why are the Russians posting in here so boastful & catty towards their adversaries who are against them invading Ukraine?

Putin will be put in his place and Russians here will act the victim and say it's liberals in EU & USA enslaving them not their own greedy cruel corrupt government.

Ricardo, if you REALLY want to know what is going on, hit me up in Skype: halifaxoteam.

Yo! Dude. If you care hit me up in Skype: halifaxoteam. I will explain you shit. On many levels.

If i had an aff link i'd share it here, but I don't. If you're playing a dumb ass, I don't care.

you typical Ukrainian patriot comrade

i think i have an idea

I know right.

And Pooty always get 90% of the vote in his Presidential elections.

Who could imagine that just about everyone wants the same thing..........

:warning