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bronco67 11-29-2018 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HowlingWulf (Post 22374283)

I want to know what drives these people. Do they know they're full of shit and maintain a willful ignorance to the point of convincing themselves they actually believe the shit they come up with?

RedFred 11-29-2018 09:19 PM


GAMEFINEST 11-29-2018 10:31 PM

When it rains it pours.


This is just the start of the end for Trump Foundation of clusterfucks

onwebcam 11-30-2018 12:03 AM

More nothingness from Team Mueller....

If I were asked if I remember an email from years ago I'd be doing life.

NewNick 11-30-2018 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374368)
More nothingness from Team Mueller....

If I were asked if I remember an email from years ago I'd be doing life.

You think Trump will get life ?

One can live in hope.

:1orglaugh

J. Falcon 11-30-2018 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374368)
More nothingness from Team Mueller....

If I were asked if I remember an email from years ago I'd be doing life.

You should be doing life for stupidity.

BaldBastard 11-30-2018 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374368)
More nothingness from Team Mueller....

If I were asked if I remember an email from years ago I'd be doing life.

If the feds pulled you in to ask you about your communications between March and Dec 2016, I'd guess you'd look at every fucking communication you had in that time and pass them by your lawyer, so you had the right reply before voluntary going in to give answers. Emails are the fucking easiest to look up as there's a record.

…. So your saying these people and lawyers are too fucking dumb to do that? or they're just spinning bull shit and got caught out.

ARE YOU REALLY THAT BLIND AND SENILE TO SWALLOW THE EXCUSE? These guys weren't dragged in off the street and asked questions under bright lights for 48 hours, they knew fully well what they were in for before they stepped in the door.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22374402)
If the feds pulled you in to ask you about your communications between March and Dec 2016, I'd guess you'd look at every fucking communication you had in that time and pass them by your lawyer, so you had the right reply before voluntary going in to give answers. Emails are the fucking easiest to look up as there's a record.

…. So your saying these people and lawyers are too fucking dumb to do that? or they're just spinning bull shit and got caught out.

ARE YOU REALLY THAT BLIND AND SENILE TO SWALLOW THE EXCUSE? These guys weren't dragged in off the street and asked questions under bright lights for 48 hours, they knew fully well what they were in for before they stepped in the door.

Sorry but they aren't going to forewarn you about every question they are going to ask... In fact it's pretty obvious that Mueller's team is setting people up with these ridiculous charges and/or needle in the haystacking...

Lying to Congress? Comey? McCabe? Brennan? Clapper?

BaldBastard 11-30-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374478)
Sorry but they aren't going to forewarn you about every question they are going to ask... In fact it's pretty obvious that Mueller's team is setting people up with these ridiculous charges and/or needle in the haystacking...

Lying to Congress? Comey? McCabe? Brennan? Clapper?


shhhh ok, this is secret, there investigating Russian collusion, obviously these clowns and their lawyers didn't realise that by your reply. No one even thought feds might look at emails but they did.. Needle in haystack stuff huh.. whoever would of thought

Rochard 11-30-2018 10:08 AM

So now we find out that... Trump Jr lied under oath to Congress. He said something along the lines of "all Trump business ended in 2014 without any result". According to Cohen efforts to build a tower in Russia continued until mid 2016.

Of course the Republicans will try to spin this as "he forgot" or he "didn't think it was important". Bullshit. He didn't forget - it was only a year or two ago - and it sure is important because he was trying to negotiate a deal with Russia while running for President of the United States, a clear conflict of interest. This was an intentional and direct lie to Congress. Under oath. Opps.

I wonder what Ikanka said under oath.

King Mark 11-30-2018 10:12 AM

"it's not illegal tho"... Yes, lying under oath is illegal tho. Sorry.

Bladewire 11-30-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374534)
So now we find out that... Trump Jr lied under oath to Congress. He said something along the lines of "all Trump business ended in 2014 without any result". According to Cohen efforts to build a tower in Russia continued until mid 2016.

Of course the Republicans will try to spin this as "he forgot" or he "didn't think it was important". Bullshit. He didn't forget - it was only a year or two ago - and it sure is important because he was trying to negotiate a deal with Russia while running for President of the United States, a clear conflict of interest. This was an intentional and direct lie to Congress. Under oath. Opps.

I wonder what Ikanka said under oath.

Trump jr. Lied about a lot of things under oath he's in deep shit.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22374536)
"it's not illegal tho"... Yes, lying under oath is illegal tho. Sorry.

So why haven't Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc been charged by Mueller?

Because that's not the agenda in this one sided, two-faced scheme....

No doubt Mueller himself has lied to Congress.

Oh look https://www.c-span.org/video/?c47194...ies-iraqs-wmds

King Mark 11-30-2018 11:05 AM

So are you saying lying under oath isn't illegal?

Rochard 11-30-2018 12:18 PM

I read an article this morning that claimed Jerome Corsi was going to spend the rest of his life in prison and go bankrupt because he "forgot" to mention a single email he forwarded.

Sure sure.

I'm sorry, but if you "forget the truth" you end up lying. And when you lie to the FBI that's a federal offense.

What's really strange is everyone involved with Trump seems to forget everything.

Rochard 11-30-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374542)
So why haven't Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc been charged by Mueller?

Because that's not the agenda in this one sided, two-faced scheme....

No doubt Mueller himself has lied to Congress.

Oh look https://www.c-span.org/video/?c47194...ies-iraqs-wmds

Not at all. Mueller did not lie to Congress at all.

He said.... "Secretary Powell presented evidence this week that Baghdad has failed to disarm it's weapons of mass destruction, and is willingly attempting to evade and deceive the international community".

Everything he said was in fact true - very true. Secretary Powell did in fact present such evidence, and his report said they believed Baghdad failed to disarm, and his report also said they believe Baghdad was intentionally trying to deceive the International community by dismissing the inspectors.

Everything he said was in fact true.

We have had dozens of investigations into Hillary Clinton and everyone else, and all of them have come back with "no charges". Yet we have one investigation into Trump and dozens have been indicted, some have plead guilty, and others found guilty in court.

You can spin it any way you want but the truth is the truth.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374607)
Not at all. Mueller did not lie to Congress at all.

He said.... "Secretary Powell presented evidence this week that Baghdad has failed to disarm it's weapons of mass destruction, and is willingly attempting to evade and deceive the international community".

Everything he said was in fact true - very true. Secretary Powell did in fact present such evidence, and his report said they believed Baghdad failed to disarm, and his report also said they believe Baghdad was intentionally trying to deceive the International community by dismissing the inspectors.

Everything he said was in fact true.

We have had dozens of investigations into Hillary Clinton and everyone else, and all of them have come back with "no charges". Yet we have one investigation into Trump and dozens have been indicted, some have plead guilty, and others found guilty in court.

You can spin it any way you want but the truth is the truth.

Indicted on bullshit not even related to Trump. In fact Manafort has more connections to Hillary/Obama and even Mueller than he did Trump.

It's all complete bullshit and if it's allowed to continue as such prepare yourself.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374602)
I read an article this morning that claimed Jerome Corsi was going to spend the rest of his life in prison and go bankrupt because he "forgot" to mention a single email he forwarded.

Sure sure.

I'm sorry, but if you "forget the truth" you end up lying. And when you lie to the FBI that's a federal offense.

What's really strange is everyone involved with Trump seems to forget everything.

Kind of like how Hillary forgot what "C" stands for on her emails I guess? That kind of lying?

Bladewire 11-30-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374607)
Not at all. Mueller did not lie to Congress at all.

See what the mentally ill troll specimen has done?

He's trying to change the subject from Trump colluding with Russia verifiably stealing an American election & stealing emails from American citizens.

As usual the trolls mental defect voids him of seeing reality when his troll master falters .

crockett 11-30-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374617)
Indicted on bullshit not even related to Trump. In fact Manafort has more connections to Hillary/Obama and even Mueller than he did Trump.

It's all complete bullshit and if it's allowed to continue as such prepare yourself.

Why do you keep lying about why they were indicted? They lied to the FBI about their dealings on the Trump campaign. It is with out a doubt about Trump...

You can keep lying to yourself but it's not gonna stop the truth.. just give it up already, you look like a fucking idiot trying to deny stuff that can easily be proven..it's court records..

onwebcam 11-30-2018 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22374667)
Why do you keep lying about why they were indicted? They lied to the FBI about their dealings on the Trump campaign. It is with out a doubt about Trump...

You can keep lying to yourself but it's not gonna stop the truth.. just give it up already, you look like a fucking idiot trying to deny stuff that can easily be proven..it's court records..

So prove it.. Connect it all to Trump's campaign.. I'll be waiting.

J. Falcon 11-30-2018 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374617)
It's all complete bullshit and if it's allowed to continue as such prepare yourself.

Prepare ourselves for what?

Tough guy there making threats. You would probably love for some shit to break out, wouldn't you? You're exactly the kind of demented idiot that supports Trump and his cause.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22374693)
Prepare ourselves for what?

Tough guy there making threats. You would probably love for some shit to break out, wouldn't you? You're exactly the kind of demented idiot that supports Trump and his cause.

You liberals don't know when to quit. You're right though, I'll be one of the first one to shove it down your throat.

But that's not what I'm referring to.. Watch out for those that you support... Because you aren't one of them.

RedFred 11-30-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374696)
You liberals don't know when to quit. You're right though, I'll be one of the first one to shove it down your throat.


I don't doubt you. When you're a 300lb middle age loser living in your moms trailer driving a broken down 15 year old pick up it's not like things can get any worse.


The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose. - James Baldwin

Rochard 11-30-2018 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374617)
Indicted on bullshit not even related to Trump.

It has everything to do with Trump.

Manafort was investigated because he was chairman of the Trump campaign, Trump was being investigated for working with the Russians by coordinating the release of hacked emails. So it has everything to with Trump. Saying otherwise is simply not true.

Of course, this is just the start of the investigation. We have no idea what else has done. For all we know Mueller plans on charging Manafort with treason for going to Prague and having secret meetings with the Russians.

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374617)
In fact Manafort has more connections to Hillary/Obama and even Mueller than he did Trump.

This also is not true at all. Manafort was Trump's campaign chairman. He worked hand in hand with Trump in person on a daily basis. Did he do that with Hillary? Mueller? No, of course not.

Everything you say is a complete lie.

Rochard 11-30-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374624)
Kind of like how Hillary forgot what "C" stands for on her emails I guess? That kind of lying?

Again, not true.

Hillary never said under oath that "she forgot" anything.

The Secretary of State is one of a handful of people in the country who gets to see classified information. This is why she was never charged with a crime. If she decides someone gets to handle classified information, she can make that decision on the fly. She doesn't have to fill out a form or ask daddy for permission. I am sure it is a big more complicated than this, but the short version is she never broke a law which is why she was never charged.

You and Republicans around the country need to stop with this "they broke the law" bullshit because they didn't, no charges were ever filed, no one was ever indicted, and no one went to jail.

Can't say that about the Trump people.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374701)
Again, not true.

Hillary never said under oath that "she forgot" anything.

The Secretary of State is one of a handful of people in the country who gets to see classified information. This is why she was never charged with a crime. If she decides someone gets to handle classified information, she can make that decision on the fly. She doesn't have to fill out a form or ask daddy for permission. I am sure it is a big more complicated than this, but the short version is she never broke a law which is why she was never charged.

You and Republicans around the country need to stop with this "they broke the law" bullshit because they didn't, no charges were ever filed, no one was ever indicted, and no one went to jail.

Can't say that about the Trump people.

She told that to the FBI while being questioned... Grant it she did get special treatment by answering any questions while not being under oath so you're somewhat correct.. I guess that makes it ok for you? Who was doing the questioning? Peter Strzok... Who was in attendance while she was being questioned? Her co-conspirators....

baddog 11-30-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374696)
You liberals don't know when to quit. You're right though, I'll be one of the first one to shove it down your throat.

But that's not what I'm referring to.. Watch out for those that you support... Because you aren't one of them.

Prettysure he lives in South America.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22374697)
I don't doubt you. When you're a 300lb middle age loser living in your moms trailer driving a broken down 15 year old pick up it's not like things can get any worse.


The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose. - James Baldwin

6' around 185 and for reasons you can imagine I live in the largest by sf, tallest and at the highest point individually occupied building for miles around which is cammed up like Fort Knox. The 1.5ft thick brick and concrete walls don't hurt either.

My place is go to place for a liberal zombie apocalypse. :thumbsup

RedFred 11-30-2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374712)
6' around 185 and for reasons you can imagine I live in the largest by sf, tallest and at the highest point individually occupied building for miles around which is cammed up like Fort Knox. The 1.5ft thick brick and concrete walls don't hurt either.

My place is go to place for a liberal zombie apocalypse. :thumbsup



http://our-russia.com/sites/default/...?itok=qC5M2435

How many other comrades do you live with?

onwebcam 11-30-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22374715)
http://our-russia.com/sites/default/...?itok=qC5M2435

How many other comrades do you live with?


0 :thumbsup My building was actually built by Dupont for traveling executives to stay at in the early 1900s.

Bladewire 11-30-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22374667)
Why do you keep lying about why they were indicted? They lied to the FBI about their dealings on the Trump campaign. It is with out a doubt about Trump...

You can keep lying to yourself but it's not gonna stop the truth.. just give it up already, you look like a fucking idiot trying to deny stuff that can easily be proven..it's court records..

He's a lonely alt-right hate troll

It builds his fragile self esteem to get people to do research for him, then deny the facts of the research.

He thinks anyone who gives links to prove him wrong is an idiot.

He thinks anyone who takes him seriously is an idiot.

It's his job to post lies and deny the truth that's what he gets paid his little rubles for.

What is the sense of trying to get someone to see the truth when they deny the truth over and over and over again for 3 years? No sense to it he's a lost case. End of story

3 years!

No integrity

No common sense

No sense of right & wrong

Rochard 11-30-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374708)
She told that to the FBI while being questioned... Grant it she did get special treatment by answering any questions while not being under oath so you're somewhat correct.. I guess that makes it ok for you? Who was doing the questioning? Peter Strzok... Who was in attendance while she was being questioned? Her co-conspirators....

What exactly did Hillary Clinton say during this interview?

Did she lie during the interview? If so, she should have been charged. Did she say "she forget"? I don't recall that.

It was the Republicans leading the investigation, yet... They couldn't find a valid reason to press any charges against anyone.

Bladewire 11-30-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374720)
What exactly did Hillary Clinton say during this interview?

Did she lie during the interview? If so, she should have been charged. Did she say "she forget"? I don't recall that.

It was the Republicans leading the investigation, yet... They couldn't find a valid reason to press any charges against anyone.

Trump supporters know the investigations are fake, they just want to see someone from the other team being harassed that's all they care about is people suffering and hurting people that aren't on their team. If it's a minority or woman, they get extra excitement from it.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374720)
What exactly did Hillary Clinton say during this interview?

Did she lie during the interview? If so, she should have been charged. Did she say "she forget"? I don't recall that.

It was the Republicans leading the investigation, yet... They couldn't find a valid reason to press any charges against anyone.

She claimed she didn't know what the "C" meant.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/9/2/12...assified-label

Spent nearly her entire adult life in government and supposedly doesn't know classification designations..

She bold faced lied.. You suckers eat it up..

bronco67 11-30-2018 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374607)
Not at all. Mueller did not lie to Congress at all.

He said.... "Secretary Powell presented evidence this week that Baghdad has failed to disarm it's weapons of mass destruction, and is willingly attempting to evade and deceive the international community".

Everything he said was in fact true - very true. Secretary Powell did in fact present such evidence, and his report said they believed Baghdad failed to disarm, and his report also said they believe Baghdad was intentionally trying to deceive the International community by dismissing the inspectors.

Everything he said was in fact true.

We have had dozens of investigations into Hillary Clinton and everyone else, and all of them have come back with "no charges". Yet we have one investigation into Trump and dozens have been indicted, some have plead guilty, and others found guilty in court.

You can spin it any way you want but the truth is the truth.

I love their argument. Everyone should just overlook the gang of criminals running the country because..."Iraq war 17 years ago".

onwebcam 11-30-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22374728)
I love their argument. Everyone should just overlook the gang of criminals running the country because..."Iraq war 17 years ago".

What's the crime? Because "collusion" isn't one. You can't have an investigation without an actual crime. Name it, because Mueller hasn't. Prosecutors can't be allowed to dig through people's lives to "discover" a crime especially while blatantly overlooking the crimes of others.. If that's the future you wish for we might as well get down to business.. Winner decides..

onwebcam 11-30-2018 06:05 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defa...?itok=hlHZxGuQ

Provoking New Crimes Rather than Uncovering Past Crimes: Mueller's Modus Operandi

"Even if Mueller could prove that members of the Trump team had colluded with Julian Assange to use material that Assange had unlawfully obtained, that, too, would not be a crime.

Merely using the product of an already committed theft of information is not a crime. If you don't believe me, ask the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian and other newspapers that used material illegally obtained by Assange with full knowledge that it was illegally obtained.

In the end, Mueller should be judged by how successful he has been in satisfying his central mission. Judged by that standard and based on what we now know, he seems to be an abysmal failure."

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...modus-operandi

Bladewire 11-30-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22374728)
I love their argument. Everyone should just overlook the gang of criminals running the country because..."Iraq war 17 years ago".

He tries so hard to divert the conversation of topic.

Trump's in the slow cooker. I love watching him squirm. Trump is no match for Mueller.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22374744)
He tries so hard to divert the conversation of topic.

Trump's in the slow cooker. I love watching him squirm. Trump is no match for Mueller.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtQjZgSVAAA8yGX.jpg:large

Rochard 11-30-2018 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374723)
She claimed she didn't know what the "C" meant.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/9/2/12...assified-label

Spent nearly her entire adult life in government and supposedly doesn't know classification designations..

She bold faced lied.. You suckers eat it up..

So?

She wasn't sure what a single letter mean on an email? She lie about it? Was she under oath? Did she commit a crime?

No. This was a bullshit witch hunt investigation in which they were "hoping" to find some law broken, but found none. Do you know how you know it was a witch hunt? Simple. They had a dozen investigations and NOT ONE returned with any charges or even any wrong doing.

Meanwhile, Trump there is calling Mueller's investigation a witch hunt while everyone is going to jail.

http://rochardsbunnyranch.com/rock/emails.jpg

onwebcam 11-30-2018 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374746)
So?

She wasn't sure what a single letter mean on an email? She lie about it? Was she under oath? Did she commit a crime?

No. This was a bullshit witch hunt investigation in which they were "hoping" to find some law broken, but found none. Do you know how you know it was a witch hunt? Simple. They had a dozen investigations and NOT ONE returned with any charges or even any wrong doing.

Meanwhile, Trump there is calling Mueller's investigation a witch hunt while everyone is going to jail.

http://rochardsbunnyranch.com/rock/emails.jpg

lol

I knew you'd give her a pass in her bold-face lying...

Like I said, we may as well get down to business. No sense in dragging it out any longer.. The only people that helps is those in Washington.

It may kick off here in Fort Nashborough if the mayor keeps it up. The natives are restless.

Bladewire 11-30-2018 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22374746)
So?

She wasn't sure what a single letter mean on an email? She lie about it? Was she under oath? Did she commit a crime?

He wants to change the thread topic to ANYTHING but Trump & Russia.

Hillary, Obama, Pelosi have nothing to do with Trump lying and Trump licking Putin's ass clean for a few rubles.

Trump admitted to lying today.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22374750)
He wants to change the thread topic to ANYTHING but Trump & Russia.

Hillary, Obama, Pelosi have nothing to do with Trump lying and Trump licking Putin's ass clean for a few rubles.

Trump admitted to lying today.

Do you mean the same Hillary who's foundation received over $100 million from those involved in Uranium One?

If her Foundation was so legit and such a beacon of light to humanity then why did donations drop by 80% last year?

King Mark 11-30-2018 07:20 PM

Hillary lost. She's a non-factor.

Trump is the liar in chief. The only thing that matters right now.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22374762)
Hillary lost. She's a non-factor.

Trump is the liar in chief. The only thing that matters right now.

Not when everyone involved in the witch hunt is doing so to keep Trump from going after her/them.. And the only people getting harmed are innocent bystanders.

This isn't about Trump or Hillary.. This is the deep state telling EVERYONE "it's our pick or no one" If you are involved with a campaign outside of the establishment choices then you will be ruined so do not even go there again....

King Mark 11-30-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22374764)
Not when everyone involved in the witch hunt is doing so to keep Trump from going after her/them..

That has nothing to do with it. You're deflecting.

King Mark 11-30-2018 07:25 PM

You should update your sig. Might help you stay focused.

onwebcam 11-30-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22374765)
That has nothing to do with it. You're deflecting.

EVERYTHING to do with it. "Insurance Policy"

bronco67 11-30-2018 08:11 PM

We're going to see more shit drop in the next few days. It's very possible that next week will be a week just like this one. We're all finding out the things intelligent people with common sense have known to be true in some form or another. You don't have to be a master dot connector to get a general sense of what happened, especially when you can read Trump like a book and know that he is 110% motivated by money. He's been compromised by the Russians and is a traitor to his country. And he's the fucking president. It should be scary to anyone.


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