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Steve G 05-18-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22471634)
I Agree this have worked before but now;

Withdraw funds by wire:

From : USD funds in paxum account
TO: my scotia bank account Canada verified in my paxum.

when selecting my canadian bank account :)
The FROM change it self to CAN currency where i have no funds, i only have USD.

did few Wire before did not have this kind of issue. :upsidedow

That's probably because you bank account is in CAD. Add a new USD bank account and then it will work.

Brian mike 05-18-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve G (Post 22471646)
Add a new USD bank account and then it will work.

I think there is something up with Paxum system again, will wait for reply from ruth will see.
I should not need a USD bank account to withdraw to my Canadian Bank account they usualy convert the currency for me in Canadian dollard.

but thanks :thumbsup

juliapanan 05-19-2019 06:11 AM

I have some good amount of money in my paxum and I never tried wire or EFT transfers. I only used the paxum card and the external credit card and now it's not working too, I am from europe and I hope everything works out ... I hope they fix the PAXUM CARD soon though.

SleepWalker 05-19-2019 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22471950)
I have some good amount of money in my paxum and I never tried wire or EFT transfers. I only used the paxum card and the external credit card and now it's not working too, I am from europe and I hope everything works out ... I hope they fix the PAXUM CARD soon though.

Fixing current card is unlikely, make sure to order the unionpay, best bet at this time.

juliapanan 05-19-2019 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepWalker (Post 22471959)
Fixing current card is unlikely, make sure to order the unionpay, best bet at this time.

So what we will be losing our money on the Paxum card? I have X,XXX on there! How do I order unionpay? When I go into the Apply For Card nothing is appearing there for me ... not cards available.

CrazyMartin 05-19-2019 07:24 AM

i told before, in europe unioncards are not available
only wirecard

but... no wirecard as well (printing since last year) :)

SleepWalker 05-19-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22471973)
So what we will be losing our money on the Paxum card? I have X,XXX on there! How do I order unionpay? When I go into the Apply For Card nothing is appearing there for me ... not cards available.

You mean your Trucash card? it still works, you can spend the money currently on it. Just that you can't fund it anymore.

juliapanan 05-19-2019 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepWalker (Post 22471976)
You mean your Trucash card? it still works, you can spend the money currently on it. Just that you can't fund it anymore.

Yes I mean the trucash card and no, I cannot WITHDRAW it from ATM as its not working and it says 'Insuffient funds' or some kind of error even though I have some good amount of money on it...

SleepWalker 05-19-2019 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22471987)
Yes I mean the trucash card and no, I cannot WITHDRAW it from ATM as its not working and it says 'Insuffient funds' or some kind of error even though I have some good amount of money on it...

Oh, ATM, yeah...that's an issue and I wouldn't bet it will work again. The only thing you can do it spend as much as you can from it.

I wonder if you could buy a Western Union to yourself using the card... But that would cost some fees...

juliapanan 05-19-2019 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepWalker (Post 22471994)
Oh, ATM, yeah...that's an issue and I wouldn't bet it will work again. The only thing you can do it spend as much as you can from it.

I wonder if you could buy a Western Union to yourself using the card... But that would cost some fees...

Well that's not good... where can use the Paxum Card and spend the money on it them please? I have some good amount of money on it and not really sure what I will be spending but it's better then losing the money from these bastards anyway...

SleepWalker 05-19-2019 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22471996)
Well that's not good... where can use the Paxum Card and spend the money on it them please? I have some good amount of money on it and not really sure what I will be spending but it's better then losing the money from these bastards anyway...

Grocery, gaz, shopping, restaurants etc. all you buy, basically the cash you wanted to take out, what were you expecting to pay with it? Can you pay with MAsterCard instead? For my biz I use it to pay for advertising, hosting. I have it linked to my paypal. it works for everything but ebay.

juliapanan 05-19-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepWalker (Post 22471998)
Grocery, gaz, shopping, restaurants etc. all you buy, basically the cash you wanted to take out, what were you expecting to pay with it? Can you pay with MAsterCard instead? For my biz I use it to pay for advertising, hosting. I have it linked to my paypal. it works for everything but ebay.

I haven't used it yet for my country but I think I will do that. Can I link it to Paypal and just buy random stuff? Thanks for the help ...

SleepWalker 05-19-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22472008)
I haven't used it yet for my country but I think I will do that. Can I link it to Paypal and just buy random stuff? Thanks for the help ...

for paypal try it, worked fine for me but at least one person on GFY said it couldn't do it... When I try to pay for an ebay purchase the transaction gets declined, all other purchase I did with paypal+trucash went fine.

juliapanan 05-19-2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepWalker (Post 22472011)
for paypal try it, worked fine for me but at least one person on GFY said it couldn't do it... When I try to pay for an ebay purchase the transaction gets declined, all other purchase I did with paypal+trucash went fine.

Great! I will try that .. better then losing the money. I think I can also use it as a normal credit card and buy advertising using CC as that should work right? Thanks!

SleepWalker 05-19-2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22472015)
I can also use it as a normal credit card and buy advertising using CC as that should work right?

works for me!

juliapanan 05-19-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepWalker (Post 22472017)
works for me!

I tried using it for Namecheap, but don't work. I will check some other sites that may accept it ... hopefully. Thanks for all your help though.

klinton 05-19-2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22471987)
Yes I mean the trucash card and no, I cannot WITHDRAW it from ATM as its not working and it says 'Insuffient funds' or some kind of error even though I have some good amount of money on it...

they dont work - since few months - in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus.
read the previous posts

Reno78 05-19-2019 10:22 AM

I tried to add my TrueCash card to Paypal and it doesn't work. :(

juliapanan 05-19-2019 10:37 AM

I'm guessing it stopped working then ... shit. This is serious. How the hell am I going to get my X,XXX money out of the card? I am freaking out here!

nikki99 05-19-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22472047)
I'm guessing it stopped working then ... shit. This is serious. How the hell am I going to get my X,XXX money out of the card? I am freaking out here!

I have your same issue, patience is the key... seems they are not going to close, they looking for solutions...

SleepWalker 05-19-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by juliapanan (Post 22472047)
I'm guessing it stopped working then ... shit. This is serious. How the hell am I going to get my X,XXX money out of the card? I am freaking out here!

Are you in Russia?

My last purchase was 12 hours ago, using paypal, worked.

To know for sure email service at trucash.com ask them why your transaction was declined.

AkiraSS 05-20-2019 04:54 AM

This seems to be the end of Paxum, no point in using it as an intermediary solution anymore. No ETA when or if this situation will be fixed, no alternative to TruCash has been found in a year now, I guess this is game over.

CrazyMartin 05-20-2019 05:25 AM

Its not over. This is still good sollution for small sponsors, small payments. In modern world every account will be reported to your tax office! In Canada where paxum is registered. Every old card account with payments over 1200 per month is reported to owner country. Thats why they collect your bills to determine tax residency. So no mater card or wire. You will be reported. Dont use their cc to awoid taxes. Now this wont work! Send money to own account by wire etf and use your own card! And pay taxes.. cards are reported as well since 2018 in Canada.

gorillaz_ 05-20-2019 05:26 AM

its not the end :pimp , you are dealing with turtles .

mopek1 05-20-2019 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 22472406)
Its not over. This is still good sollution for small sponsors, small payments. In modern world every account will be reported to your tax office! In Canada where paxum is registered. Every old card account with payments over 1200 per month is reported to owner country. Thats why they collect your bills to determine tax residency. So no mater card or wire. You will be reported. Dont use their cc to awoid taxes. Now this wont work! Send money to own account by wire etf and use your own card! And pay taxes.. cards are reported as well since 2018 in Canada.

Who reports what exactly?

When reporting my income, I add up my check stubs and print out invoices that sponsors send me when they pay by Paxum.

Are you saying sponsors report their Paxum payment to affiliates to the gov?

Or does Paxum report payments to the government? If so, how do they know what a payment is and what isn't (ex: PP to paxum transfer etc.).

I don't want my gov to think I am getting more payments than I really am?

3xmedia 05-20-2019 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22472413)
Who reports what exactly?

Or does Paxum report payments to the government? If so, how do they know what a payment is and what isn't (ex: PP to paxum transfer etc.).

I don't want my gov to think I am getting more payments than I really am?

that's why I never do those Paypal etc. > Paxum transfers/exchanges.

CrazyMartin 05-20-2019 05:59 AM

Read about crs reporting Canada. You will See. Non residents are reported to original residency tax authorities. So they will know how much you declared and how much you had on foreign accounts. Balance at end of the year is reported but albo sum of all payments over the year... every cc account must be reported since 2018. Never wonder why they need utility bill? And gov id? They must determine your tax residency for proper reporting... look inside paxum. You will se there your own tax number... small accounts (up to 1200 per Month) is not reported. But i'm not sure is it regarding only Old accounts or maybe new as well

rowan 05-20-2019 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22471592)
Anyone in Canada have this issue ?

- Can't wire funds to my bank account. :helpme
- Can't move funds between my accounts USA currency to CAN :error

Transfer Funds » Between Accounts
Errors :
In order to withdraw money in CAD please use your USD/EUR/GBP account and choose EFT in CAD for withdrawal.
( dosen't make sense EFT for Canadian is down Already for days :error )

Unless i do something wrong in process ( I doubt :) ) IF Wire in Canada dosent work Paxum is USELESS for me.
No Card - NO EFT - Now no more Wire............

Sending an email to Ruth to find out ( GREAT ITS THE WEEKEND :1orglaugh ) but that's Not Looking Good AT ALL.....

Same thing happening to me. It rejects my attempt to transfer funds from my USD Paxum to AUD Paxum account (in preparation for a wire withdrawal), and tells me to use EFT. Except Paxum no longer supports EFT to AUD accounts

Seems like this rejection is designed to help people save money (EFT being much cheaper), but they need to remove this because right now that's the ONLY option I have to withdraw my funds.

rowan 05-20-2019 06:22 AM

So here's the situation.

- I cannot withdraw from my Paxum USD account via EFT (AUD no longer supported)
- I can withdraw from my Paxum AUD account via wire.
- But! I cannot transfer from my Paxum USD to Paxum AUD account.
- Nor can I withdraw by wire to an AUD bank account from my Paxum USD account.

So my funds are effectively stuck in an account I cannot withdraw from, and the only one to withdraw is from an account I cannot transfer funds into.

Paxum USD: no EFT withdraw, no wire withdraw, no internal transfer, $xxxx balance. I can't do ANYTHING with this account.
Paxum AUD: wire withdraw available, $0.00 balance

mopek1 05-20-2019 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 22472422)
Read about crs reporting Canada. You will See. Non residents are reported to original residency tax authorities. So they will know how much you declared and how much you had on foreign accounts. Balance at end of the year is reported but albo sum of all payments over the year... every cc account must be reported since 2018. Never wonder why they need utility bill? And gov id? They must determine your tax residency for proper reporting... look inside paxum. You will se there your own tax number... small accounts (up to 1200 per Month) is not reported. But i'm not sure is it regarding only Old accounts or maybe new as well

Yeah I get it.

Again though, hard to determine what a payment is (income) and what a non-income transaction is like transfers to PP or other currencies, refunds, friends who send money + other forms of payment.

In any case, if the gov audits me I have all the paperwork for my income, but can't prove a PP to Paxum transfer wasn't income etc...

We'll see.

Brian mike 05-20-2019 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 22472406)
Its not over. This is still good sollution for small sponsors, small payments. In modern world every account will be reported to your tax office! In Canada where paxum is registered. Every old card account with payments over 1200 per month is reported to owner country. Thats why they collect your bills to determine tax residency. So no mater card or wire. You will be reported. Dont use their cc to awoid taxes. Now this wont work! Send money to own account by wire etf and use your own card! And pay taxes.. cards are reported as well since 2018 in Canada.

This .... :thumbsup Good advice.

I give every payment receipt/ invoice to my accountant and she take care of the rest.
Not really worth it to try to hide from CRS they will catch up on you one day YOU DON'T EXPECT :1orglaugh even if you die your estate will be seize in no time :)

rowan 05-20-2019 08:09 AM

Remember when that banner ran at the top of GFY, advertising epassporte's numbered card? Yeah, that went well.

If there weren't so many people trying to hide their income through "money movers" like Paxum, we'd probably have a less regulated, more reliable service!

ANAL PASTE 05-20-2019 08:36 AM

EFT transfer is gone as well.
Whats going on, Ruth?

brassmonkey 05-20-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22472508)
Remember when that banner ran at the top of GFY, advertising epassporte's numbered card? Yeah, that went well.

If there weren't so many people trying to hide their income through "money movers" like Paxum, we'd probably have a less regulated, more reliable service!

oh stop it! government take your money and blow it out of their ass!! you want big aussie looking over your shoulder??

rowan 05-20-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22472544)
oh stop it! government take your money and blow it out of their ass!! you want big aussie looking over your shoulder??

This isn't about Big Brother. My point is that law abiding citizens are probably impacted by rules and regulations introduced because of people trying to hide income. If Paxum's so clean then why are the backend providers constantly dropping them?

mopek1 05-20-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22472561)
This isn't about Big Brother. My point is that law abiding citizens are probably impacted by rules and regulations introduced because of people trying to hide income. If Paxum's so clean then why are the backend providers constantly dropping them?

Well, I'm not saying that hiding income is not an issue but there could be lots more reasons why Paxum and Epass etc. can have these problems with backend providers. Allowing adult transactions, cryptocurrency loading, money laundering, people breaking TOS like weapon sales etc., pressure from governments, reputation of anything that's not PPal, gambling association etc...

CrazyMartin 05-20-2019 09:28 AM

Paxum is very good service, when you use many programs and earn $100-200 per month as webmaster

but forget about tax evasion by using their paycard
forget about their paycard at all


you can have cheap cc where you live! and transfer money from paxum via wire or ETF
no problem with this, but you must pay taxes

if you want to use their paycard you will pay taxes as well, matter of time (your local tax authorities will know)

you must know that in current world you can't hide what you earned in other country as individual person!
THIS IS OVER
every pay card account will be reported when you reached some (not high) earned amount.


read what is reported in Canada, starting 2018 (almost everything...)

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...#_Toc475109465

the same in other countries

so wire money from paxum , pay local taxes, and use your personal CC
this is simple and safe solution :)

Brian mike 05-20-2019 09:38 AM

Just to bug you a bit lol
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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 22472592)
so wire money from paxum

:error This dosen't work for me in Canada since few days :winkwink: .

brassmonkey 05-20-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22472561)
This isn't about Big Brother. My point is that law abiding citizens are probably impacted by rules and regulations introduced because of people trying to hide income. If Paxum's so clean then why are the backend providers constantly dropping them?

probably the same shit they did in belize. not getting into that stuff. i don't want trouble. look into belize bank and the threats made to them. the government will chase your money! shit you earned!

Brian mike 05-20-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22472436)
So here's the situation.

- I cannot withdraw from my Paxum USD account via EFT (AUD no longer supported)
- I can withdraw from my Paxum AUD account via wire.
- But! I cannot transfer from my Paxum USD to Paxum AUD account.
- Nor can I withdraw by wire to an AUD bank account from my Paxum USD account.

So my funds are effectively stuck in an account I cannot withdraw from, and the only one to withdraw is from an account I cannot transfer funds into.

Paxum USD: no EFT withdraw, no wire withdraw, no internal transfer, $xxxx balance. I can't do ANYTHING with this account.
Paxum AUD: wire withdraw available, $0.00 balance

Got a reply from Ruth Today and My wire is initiated. :thumbsup ( will update when funds is in my bank account ).
sending you pm probably samething you need to change in your account.

Thanks

rowan 05-20-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22472630)
Got a reply from ruth Today and My wire is initiated. :thumbsup
sending you pm probably samething you need to change in your account.

Thanks

Thanks for that! It's something I did consider might work, but I don't really want to "experiment" when it involves transferring 4 figures.

For others, the solution to be able to initiate a wire from your USD Paxum balance to your non USD bank account is that you have to change the settings (within Paxum) for your bank account to USD. So instead of first converting from USD to <your currency> within Paxum, they send a USD wire and let your bank do the currency conversion. The latter makes more sense to me.

Quine 05-20-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 22472592)

so wire money from paxum , pay local taxes, and use your personal CC
this is simple and safe solution :)

If the taxes take 50% of your earnings and you work for 5 USD per hour, that leaves you working for 2.5 USD per hour. And those paid taxes don't go to anything useful (like health system, better infrastructure etc.). Can you now see why some people have incentive to avoid paying taxes?

I'm glad you're so eager to give your earned money to the state (and get something in return). Not all places in the world function on that principle.

CrazyMartin 05-20-2019 11:49 AM

you don't understand me
i agree with you 100%

but they will know that you don't pay taxes - because of CRS reporting

sooner or later they will knock to your door for tax arrears, probably with additional fine
world changed, its over

Michael O 05-20-2019 12:57 PM

Know its not wire related but if you have issue loading your card its 90% of the time due to the card issuer not having loaded their account in time or there were delays in loading the card funding account, I would raise a ticket and then you might get priority when the account is loaded ;)

With regards to taxes any company I've worked for asked for a court order asking them to hand over the documents requested.

brassmonkey 05-20-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 22472699)
Know its not wire related but if you have issue loading your card its 90% of the time due to the card issuer not having loaded their account in time or there were delays in loading the card funding account, I would raise a ticket and then you might get priority when the account is loaded ;)

With regards to taxes any company I've worked for asked for a court order asking them to hand over the documents requested.

raise a ticket!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :(

klinton 05-20-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 22472673)
sooner or later they will knock to your door for tax arrears, probably with additional fine
world changed, its over

only if you are stupid enough to live "there":winkwink::winkwink:

Brian mike 05-21-2019 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22472630)
Got a reply from Ruth Today and My wire is initiated. :thumbsup ( will update when funds is in my bank account ).
sending you pm probably samething you need to change in your account.

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22472639)
Thanks for that! It's something I did consider might work, but I don't really want to "experiment" when it involves transferring 4 figures.

For others, the solution to be able to initiate a wire from your USD Paxum balance to your non USD bank account is that you have to change the settings (within Paxum) for your bank account to USD. So instead of first converting from USD to <your currency> within Paxum, they send a USD wire and let your bank do the currency conversion. The latter makes more sense to me.

WIRE been rejected got an email last night from paxum system.

Did everything they ask me to double check , also confirmed intermediary bank etc...

GREAT :upsidedow

rowan 05-21-2019 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22473041)
WIRE been rejected got an email last night from paxum system.

Did everything they ask me to double check , also confirmed intermediary bank etc...

GREAT :upsidedow

Hmm interesting, my experience was the opposite: I received an email saying that my wire request was completed.

Note that AllAboutCams is still waiting for the wire that Paxum supposedly sent around 3 weeks ago. I really hope mine doesn't get lost.

Brian mike 05-21-2019 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22473047)
Hmm interesting, my experience was the opposite: I received an email saying that my wire request was completed.

Note that AllAboutCams is still waiting for the wire that Paxum supposedly sent around 3 weeks ago. I really hope mine doesn't get lost.

Hope you get yours :) .

Emailing Ruth now to find out more details about why it's rejected.

PornDiscounts-V 05-21-2019 06:47 AM

Hmm. Bank account is missing in their system. Used it to withdrawal via EFT for over a year. Now it has mysteriously disappeared from the system.


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