what are you talking about ? where are these "ukr neo nazis" ? Mostly in current Russian propaganda

I believe you're dramatizing the situation. WW3 won't start over this little piece of land mostly consisting of used up coal mines. I think people who actually live there need to decide what they want, not someone from outside - be it Kyiv or Moscow.

On general premises, I think any large enough group of people living in a certain territory should have the right to whatever it is they want - whether it is to separate and form their own country, or become part of another country, may it even be Zimbabwe for all I care. They will also need to face the consequences of their choices. But that's my personal take on all this. I realize the world doesn't work that way, and it's way more complicated. This is the same with pretty much all other separatist situations worldwide. Globalization will eventually bring everyone together anyway, so why bother having wars and killing each other over this stuff?



Idiotic: coming to May 9th V-day celebration shouting their slogans against the fact that all these people's grandparents died to fight off the nazis
Dangerous: torch marches
Terroristic: setting buildings on fire (that I admit, last I heard was several years ago).

I'm just trying to stick to objective reality here.

Agree. Least talk about the Great Ukraine 4 billion years ago.

That's grandpa of my classmate Elsa (I'm not kidding :)). He has 3 watches on that photo because these are trophies - the dead German officers don't need them anymore and anyway...

My own grandpa has also been in Berlin and brought a Walter pistol (now lost unfortunately), a German military compass (now broken unfortunately) and a German field officer binoculars (still works fine and I'm using it).

I'd rather talk about a successful and well-off country 10 years from now. Hope yours is too. Truly.

What none of the history fans above seemed to have commented on was the main point of my response. Do you think past historical events make people that live in this territory now less human than you are? Cuz I want you to look deep inside yourself and answer that question. When you do, adjust your worldview accordingly. If you don't, stop making this a basis for bigotry and look at current events objectively. If you do think that is true, please accept that you're a nazi piece of shit. Because that's what nazi ideology is about - some people are considered less human due to nationality, origin, religion etc.

well, there are some religions that are inhuman…. most actually. You can not say that, than you are a nazi... But i think it is not normal to cut of little boy penises. Or cut out clitorises, or forbid mariage with other religion, forced marriage, cure or kill gays, set up a pedo network around the world… etcetra.

Hi Bjorn, I think you might be confusing inhuman and inhumane. The latter I agree with - and humanity's been doing idiotic and outright cruel shit in the names of various religions for millennia. And it's perfectly logical to be against these inhumane traditions and try to help people overcome the idiocy.
Saying that someone is less human or inhuman, however, is something completely different.

Successful??? It's the most depressed and poor country in Europe. Is this something which could be called a "success"? Maybe (I say maybe) Zelensky will do something for your country. Time will tell.

This is something my grandpa brought from Berlin. It doesn't look good because it was intensely used since 1945 but... it still works and works fine. Nazis did real great optics.

https://c.radikal.ru/c03/1906/d6/dc9a8e75f305.jpg