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Still amazes me how China has managed to declare itself "covid-free".
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It's a sad.. sad... sad fucking day when a bunch of commies put us to shame. But then again, maybe they have something that the average Westerner doesn't have and that's a backbone. |
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Being 82 and being the highest risk makes me think you are sick of this life/world and want a safe, easy way to checkout. So please, go to Sturgis and party like it's 1999. LOL There will always be a percentage (ahh those %'s again!) of people who don't give a fuck, are total narcissists, selfish, etc etc. Throw in dumb, ignorant, uneducated, brain washed and so on and the % of people I do not want near me grows and grows.... Speaking of %: Around 70% of Americans say they are embarrassed to be Americans. Covid, masks, police brutality, racism, protests, riots, social chaos without end or focus....THIS is why I tell people I'm a NEW YORKER not an "American" when I travel abroad. So: we Americans cannot travel to the rest of the world, all those hospitals filling up and morgues filling up are a hoax, half the country walking around as if nothing's wrong, Great Depression-era joblessness while the rich get richer...USA! USA!! USA!!! :disgust |
I heard about a family member getting it today. They are from Africa.
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Lonely out there right now isn't? Someone may listen to you again if you are willing to do the same yourself. |
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On the other hand you have nothing of value to say so you go straight to labeling me a piece of shit and play the victim card. Therefore once again I'll make this easy for you. I am a scumbag... An egotistical bastard... A self obsessed asshole.. A fascist pornographer I've been called and labeled a lot of things in my life by some really impressive people and I just can't be bothered to care. Worrying what other people think of me has never gotten me anywhere in my life. However, being a steadfast prick has opened more doors for me than I could ever hope to count. What you are is scared... You're scared and you're a coward but you don't want to admit it to yourself so you dress it up in this holier-than-thou act so you can lie to yourself that you're being virtuous. Only I'm too old, too experienced and I see right through it. Normally I wouldn't give a damn. In fact, I can honestly say I care more about the junkies I film shooting up than I do about frighten cowards. However, this time people like you are screwing around with my life and how I live. So you're damn right that I'm ready to fight all of you. |
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To those who are just joining this thread, here is the basic rundown:
- Mopek1 isn't good at interpreting stats. - Notinmybackyard thinks that being old gives him wisdom. It does not. In fact, I think he's just happy to have people listening to his insane ramblings. Ignore him. - Beaner is a poor excuse of a person that gets his rocks off posting controversial topics. - Some people get too much of their news from their retarded friends on Facebook. - Some people think that YouTube videos are a good source of information. - Despite overwhelming data and actual board members having contracted COVID or lost people to COVID, some people still want to downplay its dangers. - Some people don't understand that masks REDUCE the risk of transmission. Just because they don't 100% STOP the transmission doesn't mean you shouldn't wear one. - Baddog is an asshole. Did I miss anything? |
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His worshippers, who have been cheering on Dear Leader's every public dismissive word about this total fake pandemic, are curently awaiting orders on how to support two diametrically opposed attitudes at the same time. The memo should come soon ... just do like you've done on every other topic for the past three and a half years. Goes something like this ... fake news (but there's tapes) ... someone doctored the tapes (the tapes aren't doctored) ... ok, he had good reason to lie (what?) ... liberals made him (how?) ... the deep state (obviously) ... he's fighting for the common people (aww, bless). Rinse, repeat ... |
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Instead of being tough and brave and not wearing a mask, saying FUCK THE ODDS and spreading the illness unknowingly to all in my path, I choose short term precaution, common sense and social respect for others. I am the asshole obviously. Carry on. PS: Why no national strategy to combat this thing? Why leave it up to the Governors to fuck everything up? Oh I guess we know why now. Thanks Bob Woodward! |
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That Bob Woodward thing was crazy and just shows how little agent orange cares about Americans |
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So little one let me make it clear, You, your mom and your friends are not my problem. I'm not going to come to your rescue... I'm not going to feel sorry for you... I don't care what happens to you. I function the same way life does and that is that I owe you nothing. If you vanished tomorrow you would have no effect whatsoever on my life. However, if someone wants me to do anything for them, including wearing a mask, they need to pay me. I don't do anything for free that I don't want to. And yes, you are an asshole because you choose to life in fear and by your own words you believe you're owed something by life. - My advice to you is to grow up. |
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I don't see the people dropping in the streets because of a pandemic. I don't know anyone who's had it. I've heard of the story that so and so's bestie gf's bf's brother had it and was on a ventilator. I don't see any pandemic. Where is it?? And the numbers are all in massive decline, which I believe to be fakeried from the jump. How's the lantern flies by you? I'd take 100 Corona Virus pandemics over the lantern fly invasion, as long as all 100 hit at the same time and would disappear November 4th. |
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Try brushing your teeth first. |
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This notinbacksideinmymouthplease chap isn't just stupid, he's callous too. A really fucked up combination of traits. |
In CZ is again mandatory to wear masks inside, but you are not required to wear it if you are retarded :1orglaugh
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I too operate under that same assumption, that people smarter than me know better as they have studied this field far more than myself. The problem is who to look up to? The media? Fox news, CNN, MSNBC. I don't trust them one bit. Politicians or politician doctors? I never trusted them before (left or right) and neither has anyone else so I don't trust what they are saying now. I don't have to have a degree in epidemiology to know that when these people (politicians and politician doctors) contradict themselves constantly or don't answer questions or make claims that most scientists would balk at that they can't be trusted. So I am skeptical of lock downs and masks and have to seek my own information from scientists and analysts who seem like they are trying their absolute best to interpret the data without bias. The virus is a problem and there is a place for restrictions and masks but not to the degree that's being played out now. |
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Also, does a condom feel uncomfortable? I bet you rip that baby off anytime you want. It's up to the other people to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies and STDs. Quote:
Also, do people REALLY need to start dropping dead in the streets for you to start preventative measures? Again, YOU don't see it, therefore it not your problem? There's that pesky self-centeredness again. Quote:
And why in the hell would all of the countries in the world fake numbers up? What possible good would it do to anyone to destroy their economies and kill thousands of people? |
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But here's a really simple synopsis: Masks help prevent the spread. Social distancing also helps prevent the spread. Both combined are not 100% effective, but it's much better than no preventative measures at all. In any given scenario, regardless of whatever source of stats you look at, the brief moments where you feel uncomfortable wearing a mask or social distancing are nothing compared to the effects of not doing anything to help prevent the spread. Don't believe me? Look at China and Italy. They were the first to be hit and they took heavy losses. Fortunately, we had more time to prepare. That's why it doesn't SEEM as bad here. But it could get worse if we stop preventative measures. |
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I gave you dates for mask mandates vs case increases + incidence of other countries with high mask usage and high case spikes. Here in your paragraph above, you are not telling me why I am bad at interpreting stats. You are telling me that masks + social distancing works. That isn't really a counter argument. That's just you telling me what you think is true. Then you go on to tell me about 2 hard hit areas of countries (not countries - Wuhan + Lombardy), after telling me, "compared to the effects of not doing anything" ... I don't follow this? They did do something. Then you said we had time to prepare and that's why we're not as bad off as those 2 hard hit areas. Well NY and NJ were hit hard and so was Quebec and it had nothing to do with being prepared or not. And none of that explains why I am bad at interpreting stats. |
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1. You call other people scared cowards who need to grow up yet YOU are the spoiled selfish child throwing a tantrum because you are asked to wear a mask for a few minutes when going outside. LOL 2. You live in New York (like me) where we have the lowest % of Covid cases and rate of infection. Why is that? Oh yeah - IT'S BECAUSE WE WORE MASKS! Think you're a tough guy? Then try moving to fucking Alabama or Texas or Florida or South Dakota where people DON'T wear masks and the coronavirus is out of control. THEN we can see how tough you are! It's pretty easy to boast about your selfishness in a place where everyone else was following guidelines so old people like you wouldn't get sick and die. You are the joke man. LOL |
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Lombardy has a very old population with lots of 80+ year olds who have smoked all their lives and who live in an area of high pollution. Most of the deaths were in this age category with many having COPD already. Other ares of Italy fared just fine and some even better than average. I remember everyone being glued to the TV when Lombardy was hit and saying, "that's going to happen to us all!" while dismissing the other doctors saying that this region had special circumstances. Quote:
Now that we are 6 months in nobody (conveniently) remembers saying that at all. The point is that these people were sure of what they were saying (without evidence) and telling us all that it WAS going to happen, that the rest of us who don't believe it are murderers and will be sorry when the bodies "pile up on the streets." Here we are 6 months later and they are telling us we still have to lock down hard but have a different story this time, again without evidence. But they are sure of it, and of course we (who don't listen) are still murderers. |
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The other states had their peaks (like every other state) and are settling down quite nicely - again with masks not being the reason why. All you have to do is compare the cases graph with the timing of mask mandates to see why. But I suspect you will tell me, "whatever" and then continue to hammer your point across to anyone who will listen that masks work. |
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I saw the anecdote about Miami, and that actually conforms to the virus' 2 week latency period and the 4th of July holiday weekend. Same thing with Hawaii, an uptick in June, then the start of a major surge in late July. However, despite a population of 1.416 million they've only had 10,097 total cases so far and 90 deaths - well below the national average, per capita. Japan used very little testing, and had a vested interest to suppress reported cases anyway, that their historical numbers are all but meaningless. That said, with a population of 126.5 million, 73,221 cases, and 1,406 deaths, they have a much higher per capita infection ratio than the US. Possibly due to being told they were doing such a great job that people became careless. Anyhoo, plenty of actual scientific evidence to support the efficacy of masks: Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus A rapid systematic review of the efficacy of face masks and respirators against coronaviruses and other respiratory transmissible viruses for the community, healthcare workers and sick patients Universal use of face masks for success against COVID-19: evidence and implications for prevention policies As has been stated and restated countless times already, wearing a mask is to protect others, not yourself. Your not wearing a mask is a big fat "FUCK YOU" to everybody who is wearing theirs to protect you. |
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Masks are one variable in a complex system of variables. You can only say they don't work if they don't correlate with the changes in cases. For example if everyone suddenly wore masks and the cases spiked then they don't work. It could be because of another variable but in most of the countries and states the variables stayed the same or became even more resolute (lock downs) so nothing changed except for masks. But you can't say they make it worse as there are other variables to consider. Maybe cases spiked because young people are partying etc... |
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