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slapass 09-09-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22730541)
I think what people mean by fake pandemic is not that the virus isn't real. They mean that the response to the pandemic is disproportionate to its severity.

So it is "fake" in a sense, as in we are reacting as if we are in the midst of the 1918 Spanish Flu - a very serious pandemic - when in fact we are in a much milder version of what pandemic brings to mind and that we should be reacting to it accordingly.

So the images of the full hospitals were fake? I don’t understand your reasoning?

Scott McD 09-09-2020 10:14 AM

Still amazes me how China has managed to declare itself "covid-free".

notinmybackyard 09-09-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 22731354)
Still amazes me how China has managed to declare itself "covid-free".

It means they got over the bullshit and went on with their lives.

It's a sad.. sad... sad fucking day when a bunch of commies put us to shame.

But then again, maybe they have something that the average Westerner doesn't have and that's a backbone.

The Porn Nerd 09-09-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22731273)

So let me make this simple for you.
  • I do not persecute the competent for the incompetent
  • I do not persecute the worker for the unemployable
  • I do not persecute the wealthy for the poor

And I certainly do not persecute the healthy for the unhealthy.

I live my life for myself and no one else.
I operate purely in my own self interest.

So let me translate this: you do not give a fuck about anyone else. Got it.
Being 82 and being the highest risk makes me think you are sick of this life/world and want a safe, easy way to checkout. So please, go to Sturgis and party like it's 1999. LOL

There will always be a percentage (ahh those %'s again!) of people who don't give a fuck, are total narcissists, selfish, etc etc. Throw in dumb, ignorant, uneducated, brain washed and so on and the % of people I do not want near me grows and grows....

Speaking of %: Around 70% of Americans say they are embarrassed to be Americans. Covid, masks, police brutality, racism, protests, riots, social chaos without end or focus....THIS is why I tell people I'm a NEW YORKER not an "American" when I travel abroad.

So: we Americans cannot travel to the rest of the world, all those hospitals filling up and morgues filling up are a hoax, half the country walking around as if nothing's wrong, Great Depression-era joblessness while the rich get richer...USA! USA!! USA!!! :disgust

Smack dat 09-09-2020 12:19 PM

I heard about a family member getting it today. They are from Africa.
No idea how serious it was but they are fine now.

PR_Glen 09-09-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22731201)
I'm old enough to remember when DOCTORS recommended cigarettes. They were in the ads and even handed out at doctor's offices and hospitals.

So do you really want to trust someone to shoot some substance that you don't know in your veins?

The medical industry is the 3rd largest cause of death and that's a verifiable statistic. (Go see for yourself)

great example... none of those doctors where research scientists, not that you would know the difference.. they were just cherry picked paid family doctors who didn't know any better and got paid to do commercials of all things. This comparison is desperate as your attempt at attention here.

Lonely out there right now isn't? Someone may listen to you again if you are willing to do the same yourself.

notinmybackyard 09-09-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22731410)
So let me translate this: you do not give a fuck about anyone else. Got it

No I don't and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

On the other hand you have nothing of value to say so you go straight to labeling me a piece of shit and play the victim card.

Therefore once again I'll make this easy for you.

I am a scumbag... An egotistical bastard... A self obsessed asshole.. A fascist pornographer

I've been called and labeled a lot of things in my life by some really impressive people and I just can't be bothered to care. Worrying what other people think of me has never gotten me anywhere in my life. However, being a steadfast prick has opened more doors for me than I could ever hope to count.

What you are is scared...
You're scared and you're a coward but you don't want to admit it to yourself so you dress it up in this holier-than-thou act so you can lie to yourself that you're being virtuous. Only I'm too old, too experienced and I see right through it.

Normally I wouldn't give a damn. In fact, I can honestly say I care more about the junkies I film shooting up than I do about frighten cowards. However, this time people like you are screwing around with my life and how I live. So you're damn right that I'm ready to fight all of you.

Grapesoda 09-09-2020 02:23 PM

Just took the test. Find out on fri morn

NoWhErE 09-09-2020 02:40 PM

To those who are just joining this thread, here is the basic rundown:

- Mopek1 isn't good at interpreting stats.
- Notinmybackyard thinks that being old gives him wisdom. It does not. In fact, I think he's just happy to have people listening to his insane ramblings. Ignore him.
- Beaner is a poor excuse of a person that gets his rocks off posting controversial topics.
- Some people get too much of their news from their retarded friends on Facebook.
- Some people think that YouTube videos are a good source of information.
- Despite overwhelming data and actual board members having contracted COVID or lost people to COVID, some people still want to downplay its dangers.
- Some people don't understand that masks REDUCE the risk of transmission. Just because they don't 100% STOP the transmission doesn't mean you shouldn't wear one.
- Baddog is an asshole.

Did I miss anything?

JustBiz 09-09-2020 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731572)
To those who are just joining this thread, here is the basic rundown:

- Mopek1 isn't good at interpreting stats.
- Notinmybackyard thinks that being old gives him wisdom. It does not. In fact, I think he's just happy to have people listening to his insane ramblings. Ignore him.
- Beaner is a poor excuse of a person that gets his rocks off posting controversial topics.
- Some people get too much of their news from their retarded friends on Facebook.
- Some people think that YouTube videos are a good source of information.
- Despite overwhelming data and actual board members having contracted COVID or lost people to COVID, some people still want to downplay its dangers.
- Some people don't understand that masks REDUCE the risk of transmission. Just because they don't 100% STOP the transmission doesn't mean you shouldn't wear one.
- Baddog is an asshole.

Did I miss anything?

In private, the Lord of Covid Denial told Bob Woodward that it actually is a deadly virus many times worse than the flu ... but he doesn't want to say so publicly and cause a "panic" before an election, so he called it a hoax and then downplayed it publicly because of his legendary altruism.

His worshippers, who have been cheering on Dear Leader's every public dismissive word about this total fake pandemic, are curently awaiting orders on how to support two diametrically opposed attitudes at the same time.

The memo should come soon ... just do like you've done on every other topic for the past three and a half years. Goes something like this ... fake news (but there's tapes) ... someone doctored the tapes (the tapes aren't doctored) ... ok, he had good reason to lie (what?) ... liberals made him (how?) ... the deep state (obviously) ... he's fighting for the common people (aww, bless).

Rinse, repeat ...

The Porn Nerd 09-09-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22731543)
No I don't and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

On the other hand you have nothing of value to say so you go straight to labeling me a piece of shit and play the victim card.

Therefore once again I'll make this easy for you.

I am a scumbag... An egotistical bastard... A self obsessed asshole.. A fascist pornographer

I've been called and labeled a lot of things in my life by some really impressive people and I just can't be bothered to care. Worrying what other people think of me has never gotten me anywhere in my life. However, being a steadfast prick has opened more doors for me than I could ever hope to count.

What you are is scared...
You're scared and you're a coward but you don't want to admit it to yourself so you dress it up in this holier-than-thou act so you can lie to yourself that you're being virtuous. Only I'm too old, too experienced and I see right through it.

Normally I wouldn't give a damn. In fact, I can honestly say I care more about the junkies I film shooting up than I do about frighten cowards. However, this time people like you are screwing around with my life and how I live. So you're damn right that I'm ready to fight all of you.

You are right. I AM a coward. I'm afraid some asymptomatic selfish asshat like yourself coughs on me while trying to cross Fifth Avenue and I then unknowingly bring the virus back to my mom and other at risk friends and family.

Instead of being tough and brave and not wearing a mask, saying FUCK THE ODDS and spreading the illness unknowingly to all in my path, I choose short term precaution, common sense and social respect for others. I am the asshole obviously.

Carry on.

PS: Why no national strategy to combat this thing? Why leave it up to the Governors to fuck everything up? Oh I guess we know why now. Thanks Bob Woodward!

SBJ 09-09-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22731626)
You are right. I AM a coward. I'm afraid some asymptomatic selfish asshat like yourself coughs on me while trying to cross Fifth Avenue and I then unknowingly bring the virus back to my mom and other at risk friends and family.

Instead of being tough and brave and not wearing a mask, saying FUCK THE ODDS and spreading the illness unknowingly to all in my path, I choose short term precaution, common sense and social respect for others. I am the asshole obviously.

Carry on.

PS: Why no national strategy to combat this thing? Why leave it up to the Governors to fuck everything up? Oh I guess we know why now. Thanks Bob Woodward!

100% me too. I'm turning 50 in November and I'm not worried about myself but my mom is 75 and I wear a mask for her.

That Bob Woodward thing was crazy and just shows how little agent orange cares about Americans

notinmybackyard 09-09-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22731626)
You are right. I AM a coward. I'm afraid some asymptomatic selfish asshat like yourself coughs on me while trying to cross Fifth Avenue and I then unknowingly bring the virus back to my mom and other at risk friends and family.

Then stay home or take responsibility for your situation and stop trying to saddle others with it. It's your life, your problems and your responsibility. If you have a sick mother at home then you wear the hazmat suit and stop whining like a spoiled child because the world doesn't want to revolve around you.

So little one let me make it clear,

You, your mom and your friends are not my problem. I'm not going to come to your rescue... I'm not going to feel sorry for you... I don't care what happens to you. I function the same way life does and that is that I owe you nothing. If you vanished tomorrow you would have no effect whatsoever on my life.

However, if someone wants me to do anything for them, including wearing a mask, they need to pay me. I don't do anything for free that I don't want to.

And yes, you are an asshole because you choose to life in fear and by your own words you believe you're owed something by life. - My advice to you is to grow up.

King Mark 09-09-2020 07:21 PM

Can't fix stupid

bean-aid 09-09-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 22731663)
Can't fix stupid

What exactly is stupid? Not wanting to wear masks; my nose starts running the first 5 minutes of wearing one and drools all over my mask which I'm forced to wear over and over to go into any store.

I don't see the people dropping in the streets because of a pandemic. I don't know anyone who's had it. I've heard of the story that so and so's bestie gf's bf's brother had it and was on a ventilator.

I don't see any pandemic. Where is it?? And the numbers are all in massive decline, which I believe to be fakeried from the jump.

How's the lantern flies by you? I'd take 100 Corona Virus pandemics over the lantern fly invasion, as long as all 100 hit at the same time and would disappear November 4th.

King Mark 09-09-2020 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22731709)
my nose starts running the first 5 minutes of wearing one and drools all over my mask which I'm forced to wear over and over to go into any store.

Such a dramatic pussy...

Try brushing your teeth first.

MaDalton 09-09-2020 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731572)
To those who are just joining this thread, here is the basic rundown:

- Mopek1 isn't good at interpreting stats.
- Notinmybackyard thinks that being old gives him wisdom. It does not. In fact, I think he's just happy to have people listening to his insane ramblings. Ignore him.
- Beaner is a poor excuse of a person that gets his rocks off posting controversial topics.
- Some people get too much of their news from their retarded friends on Facebook.
- Some people think that YouTube videos are a good source of information.
- Despite overwhelming data and actual board members having contracted COVID or lost people to COVID, some people still want to downplay its dangers.
- Some people don't understand that masks REDUCE the risk of transmission. Just because they don't 100% STOP the transmission doesn't mean you shouldn't wear one.
- Baddog is an asshole.

Did I miss anything?

https://media.tenor.com/images/769be...4508/tenor.gif

RazorSharpe 09-10-2020 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731572)
To those who are just joining this thread, here is the basic rundown:

- Mopek1 isn't good at interpreting stats.
- Notinmybackyard thinks that being old gives him wisdom. It does not. In fact, I think he's just happy to have people listening to his insane ramblings. Ignore him.
- Beaner is a poor excuse of a person that gets his rocks off posting controversial topics.
- Some people get too much of their news from their retarded friends on Facebook.
- Some people think that YouTube videos are a good source of information.
- Despite overwhelming data and actual board members having contracted COVID or lost people to COVID, some people still want to downplay its dangers.
- Some people don't understand that masks REDUCE the risk of transmission. Just because they don't 100% STOP the transmission doesn't mean you shouldn't wear one.
- Baddog is an asshole.

Did I miss anything?

Baddog on Rochard reminds me of Divvy on NatalieK. Similar childish needling.

This notinbacksideinmymouthplease chap isn't just stupid, he's callous too. A really fucked up combination of traits.

Klen 09-10-2020 02:04 AM

In CZ is again mandatory to wear masks inside, but you are not required to wear it if you are retarded :1orglaugh

RazorSharpe 09-10-2020 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22731784)
In CZ is again mandatory to wear masks inside, but you are not required to wear it if you are retarded :1orglaugh

You're lucky there are travel restrictions otherwise a few people on this board would be booking tickets to come visit you.

mopek1 09-10-2020 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731572)
To those who are just joining this thread, here is the basic rundown:

- Mopek1 isn't good at interpreting stats.

I'd love for you to explain why.

mopek1 09-10-2020 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731572)
To those who are just joining this thread, here is the basic rundown:

- Mopek1 isn't good at interpreting stats.
- Notinmybackyard thinks that being old gives him wisdom. It does not. In fact, I think he's just happy to have people listening to his insane ramblings. Ignore him.
- Beaner is a poor excuse of a person that gets his rocks off posting controversial topics.
- Some people get too much of their news from their retarded friends on Facebook.
- Some people think that YouTube videos are a good source of information.
- Despite overwhelming data and actual board members having contracted COVID or lost people to COVID, some people still want to downplay its dangers.
- Some people don't understand that masks REDUCE the risk of transmission. Just because they don't 100% STOP the transmission doesn't mean you shouldn't wear one.
- Baddog is an asshole.

Did I miss anything?

LOL at everyone quoting this and agreeing when you're not really saying anything except attacking people's character and giving off your opinion as truth while criticizing others for giving theirs.

RazorSharpe 09-10-2020 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22731804)
LOL at everyone quoting this and agreeing when you're not really saying anything except attacking people's character and giving off your opinion as truth while criticizing others for giving theirs.

I quoted it but I addressed only the 2 people he mentioned. I'll be honest, I haven't looked at stats and I'm not really interested in them. I operate under the assumption that smarter people than me are requesting that I wear a mask, so I will. If I get COVID and die, I won't be around to bitch about it so I'm not really doing this for myself, I'm doing it so I don't inadvertently make others ill. Pretty much the same reason I wear trousers when I go to the supermarket.

mopek1 09-10-2020 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22731815)
I quoted it but I addressed only the 2 people he mentioned. I'll be honest, I haven't looked at stats and I'm not really interested in them. I operate under the assumption that smarter people than me are requesting that I wear a mask, so I will. If I get COVID and die, I won't be around to bitch about it so I'm not really doing this for myself, I'm doing it so I don't inadvertently make others ill. Pretty much the same reason I wear trousers when I go to the supermarket.

Well thanks for being honest about it. I'm used to people slinging mud on forums or social media etc., so I appreciate this.

I too operate under that same assumption, that people smarter than me know better as they have studied this field far more than myself.

The problem is who to look up to? The media? Fox news, CNN, MSNBC. I don't trust them one bit.

Politicians or politician doctors? I never trusted them before (left or right) and neither has anyone else so I don't trust what they are saying now.

I don't have to have a degree in epidemiology to know that when these people (politicians and politician doctors) contradict themselves constantly or don't answer questions or make claims that most scientists would balk at that they can't be trusted.

So I am skeptical of lock downs and masks and have to seek my own information from scientists and analysts who seem like they are trying their absolute best to interpret the data without bias.

The virus is a problem and there is a place for restrictions and masks but not to the degree that's being played out now.

RazorSharpe 09-10-2020 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22731833)
Well thanks for being honest about it. I'm used to people slinging mud on forums or social media etc., so I appreciate this.

I too operate under that same assumption, that people smarter than me know better as they have studied this field far more than myself.

The problem is who to look up to? The media? Fox news, CNN, MSNBC. I don't trust them one bit.

Politicians or politician doctors? I never trusted them before (left or right) and neither has anyone else so I don't trust what they are saying now.

I don't have to have a degree in epidemiology to know that when these people (politicians and politician doctors) contradict themselves constantly or don't answer questions or make claims that most scientists would balk at that they can't be trusted.

So I am skeptical of lock downs and masks and have to seek my own information from scientists and analysts who seem like they are trying their absolute best to interpret the data without bias.

The virus is a problem and there is a place for restrictions and masks but not to the degree that's being played out now.

I totally get it; sometimes you have to do what's best for you. There are however times you have to do what's best for others. At the end of the day, if you're comfortable with the decisions you make, that's the best you can do.

Klen 09-10-2020 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22731786)
You're lucky there are travel restrictions otherwise a few people on this board would be booking tickets to come visit you.

Here is current restrictions for USA :
https://cz.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information-47/

RazorSharpe 09-10-2020 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22731863)
Here is current restrictions for USA :
https://cz.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information-47/

Are masks also mandatory in pubs? I'd imagine it would make it very difficult to drink

NoWhErE 09-10-2020 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22731709)
What exactly is stupid? Not wanting to wear masks; my nose starts running the first 5 minutes of wearing one and drools all over my mask which I'm forced to wear over and over to go into any store.

That's your excuse? You get a runny nose? So the slightest loss in comfort is a good idea for you to risk everybody else's health? That's the very definition of being self-centered.

Also, does a condom feel uncomfortable? I bet you rip that baby off anytime you want. It's up to the other people to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies and STDs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22731709)
I don't see the people dropping in the streets because of a pandemic. I don't know anyone who's had it. I've heard of the story that so and so's bestie gf's bf's brother had it and was on a ventilator.

Have you already forgotten what happened in Italy? You know... the country where the virus ran rampant because they were caught off guard and then the entire world desperately tried to prepare themselves so as to not have the same thing happen to them.

Also, do people REALLY need to start dropping dead in the streets for you to start preventative measures?

Again, YOU don't see it, therefore it not your problem? There's that pesky self-centeredness again.

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22731709)
I don't see any pandemic. Where is it?? And the numbers are all in massive decline, which I believe to be fakeried from the jump.

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there. This is a basic understanding of science that is taught to 6-year-olds in school. You don't see air, but its there. You don't germs, but they are there.

And why in the hell would all of the countries in the world fake numbers up? What possible good would it do to anyone to destroy their economies and kill thousands of people?

Klen 09-10-2020 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22731874)
Are masks also mandatory in pubs? I'd imagine it would make it very difficult to drink

Yes both pubs and restaurants, but of course you can remove it when you drink/eat.

NoWhErE 09-10-2020 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22731802)
I'd love for you to explain why.

Other people in this thread have tried to explain why, but you failed to understand.

But here's a really simple synopsis:

Masks help prevent the spread. Social distancing also helps prevent the spread. Both combined are not 100% effective, but it's much better than no preventative measures at all.

In any given scenario, regardless of whatever source of stats you look at, the brief moments where you feel uncomfortable wearing a mask or social distancing are nothing compared to the effects of not doing anything to help prevent the spread. Don't believe me? Look at China and Italy. They were the first to be hit and they took heavy losses.

Fortunately, we had more time to prepare. That's why it doesn't SEEM as bad here. But it could get worse if we stop preventative measures.

mopek1 09-10-2020 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731901)
Other people in this thread have tried to explain why, but you failed to understand.

But here's a really simple synopsis:

Masks help prevent the spread. Social distancing also helps prevent the spread. Both combined are not 100% effective, but it's much better than no preventative measures at all.

In any given scenario, regardless of whatever source of stats you look at, the brief moments where you feel uncomfortable wearing a mask or social distancing are nothing compared to the effects of not doing anything to help prevent the spread. Don't believe me? Look at China and Italy. They were the first to be hit and they took heavy losses.

Fortunately, we had more time to prepare. That's why it doesn't SEEM as bad here. But it could get worse if we stop preventative measures.

You said I was bad at interpreting stats. I asked you to explain why.

I gave you dates for mask mandates vs case increases + incidence of other countries with high mask usage and high case spikes.

Here in your paragraph above, you are not telling me why I am bad at interpreting stats.

You are telling me that masks + social distancing works. That isn't really a counter argument. That's just you telling me what you think is true.

Then you go on to tell me about 2 hard hit areas of countries (not countries - Wuhan + Lombardy), after telling me, "compared to the effects of not doing anything" ... I don't follow this? They did do something.

Then you said we had time to prepare and that's why we're not as bad off as those 2 hard hit areas. Well NY and NJ were hit hard and so was Quebec and it had nothing to do with being prepared or not.

And none of that explains why I am bad at interpreting stats.

The Porn Nerd 09-10-2020 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22731655)
Then stay home or take responsibility for your situation and stop trying to saddle others with it. It's your life, your problems and your responsibility. If you have a sick mother at home then you wear the hazmat suit and stop whining like a spoiled child because the world doesn't want to revolve around you.

So little one let me make it clear,

You, your mom and your friends are not my problem. I'm not going to come to your rescue... I'm not going to feel sorry for you... I don't care what happens to you. I function the same way life does and that is that I owe you nothing. If you vanished tomorrow you would have no effect whatsoever on my life.

However, if someone wants me to do anything for them, including wearing a mask, they need to pay me. I don't do anything for free that I don't want to.

And yes, you are an asshole because you choose to life in fear and by your own words you believe you're owed something by life. - My advice to you is to grow up.

I find a couple things very funny about you:

1. You call other people scared cowards who need to grow up yet YOU are the spoiled selfish child throwing a tantrum because you are asked to wear a mask for a few minutes when going outside. LOL

2. You live in New York (like me) where we have the lowest % of Covid cases and rate of infection. Why is that? Oh yeah - IT'S BECAUSE WE WORE MASKS! Think you're a tough guy? Then try moving to fucking Alabama or Texas or Florida or South Dakota where people DON'T wear masks and the coronavirus is out of control. THEN we can see how tough you are! It's pretty easy to boast about your selfishness in a place where everyone else was following guidelines so old people like you wouldn't get sick and die. You are the joke man. LOL

mopek1 09-10-2020 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731896)
Have you already forgotten what happened in Italy? You know... the country where the virus ran rampant because they were caught off guard and then the entire world desperately tried to prepare themselves so as to not have the same thing happen to them.

The area in Italy that got hit was Lombardy and it had nothing to do with being caught off guard and everything to do with the particulars of that region.

Lombardy has a very old population with lots of 80+ year olds who have smoked all their lives and who live in an area of high pollution. Most of the deaths were in this age category with many having COPD already. Other ares of Italy fared just fine and some even better than average.

I remember everyone being glued to the TV when Lombardy was hit and saying, "that's going to happen to us all!" while dismissing the other doctors saying that this region had special circumstances.


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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731896)
Also, do people REALLY need to start dropping dead in the streets for you to start preventative measures?

No, but lots of people were saying just that 6 months ago including a few on GFY. I remember the threads well. People were also saying that on social media and in the news.

Now that we are 6 months in nobody (conveniently) remembers saying that at all.

The point is that these people were sure of what they were saying (without evidence) and telling us all that it WAS going to happen, that the rest of us who don't believe it are murderers and will be sorry when the bodies "pile up on the streets."

Here we are 6 months later and they are telling us we still have to lock down hard but have a different story this time, again without evidence. But they are sure of it, and of course we (who don't listen) are still murderers.

mopek1 09-10-2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22731926)
Why is that? Oh yeah - IT'S BECAUSE WE WORE MASKS!

LOL .... there you go again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22731926)
Then try moving to fucking Alabama or Texas or Florida or South Dakota where people DON'T wear masks and the coronavirus is out of control.

South Dakota is doing just fine.

The other states had their peaks (like every other state) and are settling down quite nicely - again with masks not being the reason why. All you have to do is compare the cases graph with the timing of mask mandates to see why.

But I suspect you will tell me, "whatever" and then continue to hammer your point across to anyone who will listen that masks work.

RazorSharpe 09-10-2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22731930)
LOL .... there you go again.



South Dakota is doing just fine.

The other states had their peaks (like every other state) and are settling down quite nicely - again with masks not being the reason why. All you have to do is compare the cases graph with the timing of mask mandates to see why.

But I suspect you will tell me, "whatever" and then continue to hammer your point across to anyone who will listen that masks work.

Do the stats you looked at suggest that wearing masks exacerbated the situation?

BlackCrayon 09-10-2020 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22730513)
It's bullshit

This 'disease' is doing exactly what the flu does every year...

It's killing the fat, the unhealthy and the old folks that don't take care of their body.

The fear porn media, the politicians and the dumb fucking morons screaming it's real are killing far more people because of suicides, overdoses, domestic violence, etc.

You can't ignore the real data that some 214k more people died in the US alone than last year. There aren't that many suicides and overdoses. That is not 'what the flu does every year'. Sorry.

newB 09-10-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 22731133)

You dismiss the stats I give that show masks don't work and say "whatever!"

Then you go on to continue to tell other people they are wrong about masks and how they don't listen to "science." and that masks do work etc....

Where did you post stats?

I saw the anecdote about Miami, and that actually conforms to the virus' 2 week latency period and the 4th of July holiday weekend.

Same thing with Hawaii, an uptick in June, then the start of a major surge in late July. However, despite a population of 1.416 million they've only had 10,097 total cases so far and 90 deaths - well below the national average, per capita.

Japan used very little testing, and had a vested interest to suppress reported cases anyway, that their historical numbers are all but meaningless. That said, with a population of 126.5 million, 73,221 cases, and 1,406 deaths, they have a much higher per capita infection ratio than the US. Possibly due to being told they were doing such a great job that people became careless.

Anyhoo, plenty of actual scientific evidence to support the efficacy of masks:
Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

A rapid systematic review of the efficacy of face masks and respirators against coronaviruses and other respiratory transmissible viruses for the community, healthcare workers and sick patients

Universal use of face masks for success against COVID-19: evidence and implications for prevention policies

As has been stated and restated countless times already, wearing a mask is to protect others, not yourself. Your not wearing a mask is a big fat "FUCK YOU" to everybody who is wearing theirs to protect you.

Smack dat 09-10-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22731896)

And why in the hell would all of the countries in the world fake numbers up? What possible good would it do to anyone to destroy their economies and kill thousands of people?

See my conspiracy thread :2 cents:

mopek1 09-10-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22731939)
Do the stats you looked at suggest that wearing masks exacerbated the situation?

That's a good question but from what I understand it's too hard to tell unless the data was overwhelming.

Masks are one variable in a complex system of variables. You can only say they don't work if they don't correlate with the changes in cases.

For example if everyone suddenly wore masks and the cases spiked then they don't work. It could be because of another variable but in most of the countries and states the variables stayed the same or became even more resolute (lock downs) so nothing changed except for masks.

But you can't say they make it worse as there are other variables to consider. Maybe cases spiked because young people are partying etc...

Speigelau 09-10-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22731815)
I quoted it but I addressed only the 2 people he mentioned. I'll be honest, I haven't looked at stats and I'm not really interested in them. I operate under the assumption that smarter people than me are requesting that I wear a mask, so I will. If I get COVID and die, I won't be around to bitch about it so I'm not really doing this for myself, I'm doing it so I don't inadvertently make others ill. Pretty much the same reason I wear trousers when I go to the supermarket.

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