Incorrect - for mainstream I use a top shelf mainstream processor at incredible rates. I don't have to give away my money and it is deposited the next day in real currency in my bank, not in funbucks held by Paypal. I guess if you are small time eccentric crank, you need to lick Paypal's ass because no mainstream processor will work with you.

Precisely. I got their "we need more data" bullshit, and of course hurriedly complied, but I told the rep to kiss my ass and ask for the documentation before, then if I fail to provide it, you can hold funds. She actually said, "doing it this way increases compliance". I told them to 100% tongue juggle my nuts. It seems like people on here have no alternative, sadly, plus culturally they are used to licking the asses of the Opperhoofd or Bhurgomeister or Dibao or Batangay or whatever the village leader is called who would fuck their sister and their donkey if they didn't give him enough wheat. So sadly they are culturally inclined through long practice to hoover the bung of any madman with a whip.

Liquidated Damages

I asked earlier in this thread if it was related to online gambling/money laundering and he didn't deny it, but he did change his "CASINO" avatar to something else, which indicates that he read my post.

i have replied i was doing digital goods

4th Paypal reply

I understand how important it is for you to get your funds back but our decision is final and irrevocable.

Sincerely,
Meryl
PayPal

First setup i took is report and file complaint against paypal.
Your complaint has been submitted
Thank you for submitting your complaint to us.

The BBB that will process your complaint is:

BBB of Los Angeles and Silicon Valley
1112 S Bascom Ave
San Jose, CA 95128-3507
Phone: (408)278-7400
Fax: (213)630-3410
Email Address: [email protected]
Website: www.bbbsilicon.org
You will hear from this BBB soon regarding your complaint.

So whats next?
i i am making group to collect as much as possible of vicitimes llke to go LawSuit paypal, any alternative suggestion or ideas are highly appreacited?

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look I employ 20 people and do millions in sales, let me explain to you how it works: the customer gives 2 shits about your fees and your convenience...he uses the payment form that is convenient for HIM...he uses the payment form that he feels safe using that gives him the right to chargeback instantly...like Paypal...you are obviously low volume so you do not feel things like declined cards for no reason, over scrubbing, international cards not being accepted etc...you do not understand things like the importance of cascade billing and multiple payment forms...but bigger players do :thumbsup

nobody cares if you find paypal a bit inconvenient...I am from serbia and I had to jump through hoops to get a business account verified with Paypal...since then my sales have increased 30-40% and on days when paypal does not work or over scrubs for reasons unclear, I feel the daily drop in sales....I do 30-40 sales/day so I have significant data to meter by...I have multiple companies that compete with my own companies, just to split test approaches in marketing and user experience...I have tried everything under the sun simple because I have gimps to order my will in to existence...I have not only experimented with stuff like which specific payment processors work the best for me but also which combination yields the best return because I have sufficient data to do these measurements...

integrate paypal in to what ever mainstream business you have ALONG with what ever pissant tiny volume ass processor you are using and watch your sales grow...or dont and sulk and leave money on the table :thumbsup

Yes, millions of Zlotols or Hrivni or Yilgools or whatever your currency is called. I could have 20 Serbian employees too if I wanted to pay $600 a month, but why would I do that? Friend, what mainstream processing company works there? Of course you are desperate to pay Paypal's exorbitant rates - Stripe doesn't work there. That must hurt, Stripe works in Latvia and Lithuania, but, ouch, not in Serbia.

I just looked it up, it is the "Serbian Dinar", I grew a small scraggly moustache just from saying "Serbian Dinar". By the way you need to say Serbian Dinar to distinguish from the much better known Iraqi Dinar. Authorize.net doesn't work there either, and they certainly don't process "Serbian Dinars". 100 Serbian Dinars = .01$ so million is 10,000, that sounds about right.

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actually I was incorporated in the USA in wyoming until recently...I can get any processing I wish...also I laid out well argumented facts about why cascade billing exists...you are free to pretend like people had nothing better to do than add multiple payment processors...customers like Paypal...you offer this or you make less :thumbsup

people who dont like paypal: broke ass OP who notices 100$ paxum fees LOL

Ok, Tigran. Anyway, many many people have had Paypal pull shit on them with no reason, me included, only I have balls and walked. I don't leave any money on the table, I take the money and the table, then I sell the table for more money. Anyway I am just joking I like Serbia.

update

1- Your FairShake dot com claim has been approved and will be mailed to PayPal on the next business day!

2- i managed to get in touch with 2 vicitims who have Same iusse like me, just made group in telegram and will collect as much as victims who s thier money been taken without thier autorisation.

looking for lawyers online who s expert in paypal cases !!
it s funnny everyday paypal change thier tos and policy
keep following

You'll spend more than $14,000 on legal fees and get nowhere.

Seriously???

Then shall we give up and let paypal took our funds, at least they should have refunded money not transfered into thier accounts.

You should cut your losses and walk away. But if you think I'm wrong, then go play "Double or Nothing" with Paypal's army of lawyers and show us Paypal gave you back your $14,000 plus legal fees.

of course you are leaving money on the table...you are a webmaster and you think mainstream population know about stripe/ccbill or whatever processor you are using...well they do not...and some of them are hesitant to punch in their credit/debit card because they are scared or paranoid etc....but they know Paypal and they know they can pay you from a funded account or do an easy dispute...

shit I am adding apple pay and I am allergic to anything apple...I think it spreads homosexuality...but money is money :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

My account got banned ..they are going for restrictions

I Have Gather over 8 vicitimes in Last 72 hours !
So my aim is gether 200 vicitim and file lawsuit case aganist them then we will see what would happene.

Paypal can t steal poeple s money freely or with those stupid policy, does not make sense !!

someone must stand for them,
i have one vicitime who lost 90.000 USD ! can you bear this amount of loss?

Another buddy of mine just got locked with $40k in the account, after successfully using for processing for last 4 years.. nothing adult or illegal.. digital subscription for software he sells.

I think a class action is quiet possible based on how often this occurs.

Warning ( ANYONE HAVE BEEN STOLEN BY PAYPAL ) PLEASE GET IN TOUCH

Please ask him to get touch as i have one solution which i will work on it, i just need at least 200 vicitim like us

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elisio...something tells me you will have a LOT of trouble processing payments in the near future using your real name :2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup:thumbsup

there is many ways and i am lookin for new payment proccessor of adults.
will swtich off adult again

google "member alert to control high risk" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ANY processor can add you to this list :thumbsup

Paxum is the only Adult wallet that is still working without major issues in most country.
Good luck to find another one :1orglaugh

elliso my man they will grind you like a water mill. Do something better and move to digital, help normalize it and put those fuckers out of business.

Thank you very much always for your support, i am gonna do it again and again :winkwink:

just don t worry !!

Regarding haters and cheap crookers, i have blacklisted most of them
who care !! i don t really care much.

here is update with paypal Are you located, live in, California? As then there's a "loophole" that'll fix this almost immediately for you. I've had numerous issues with PayPal over the years but it's quickly solved because in California, and with PayPal being in California, the arbitration clause isn't legally binding. California residents can't legally sign away their right to a lawsuit.

So you start with a demand letter, explaining that you know your rights, are well aware the arbitration clause isn't binding, and the letter you're sending isn't a threat but is required under California law as defined in paragraph 6 of subdivision (a) of section 55.52 of California civil code, and you know it's illegal to send the demand letter without actual intent to sue. Print it, send the letter via USPS signature required to PayPal. You'll get a call and the money real quick, as they at that point know you actually mean business and it's FAR more hassle for them to defend the lawsuit vs just releasing the funds.

The "trick" to any of this is you actually need to say the right stuff because right now you don't even have a case, 2000 people or just you makes no difference, as you signed the agreement that says they can do this. They know you won't win on that basis, so you have to bring up something else such as 'unjust enrichment by gaining interest off the held funds that isn't paid out to the customer after 180 days'. That's exactly what I used as an argument, outlining that the user agreement says they can hold my money but my case is based upon them making interest on the funds without payout. They folded immediately knowing that is a legit legal claim against them that they don't want going to court because if I win they'll have to pay out interest.

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you lack the IQ to understand...the member alert to control high risk or "Terminated merchants list" is run by visa and mastercard...you do not get to pick new processors if you end up on the list...you are being very very optimistic about your future in online :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

btc is the solution

Exept you will never be able to get the money out, since you are on the banks and processors blacklist now :1orglaugh

enjoy what is left of your online career, I hope mcdonalds is hiring in your country :thumbsup

This mean we need to Expect another thread from you sooner or later :

BTC STOLE MY MONEY

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hear! hear!

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Your history is remarkable similar to elliso's with all your drama, violence and general bullshit

:winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink: BTC Does not give fuck if you been stolen or not :)

I don't use Paypal and I do plenty of business. I know I will eventually use BTC or some other crypto or digital. I used to believe the Paypal hype too, but I don't work with crooks.

still flighting with Paypal i managed to refund 30%

How did you manage that? Where did they reply?

no, you did not, if that was the case you would show us some proof, and it might help others, funny how you contradict yourself, asking for support, but when you have some proof that supporting you is worth something you would have flashed it around for everyone to see. You not doing it shows me that you are a bulk of air escaping from some dark hole.

But I think (know for sure) you making a little lie to make yourself look good, easy to see, you are so transparent!

you know what is also funny, how you ban replies from the real people here who do make a difference, like this you can be on gfy and overlook al criticisms and still feel good about yourself. A simple liar, that is what you are.