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sarettah 05-25-2023 03:48 PM

fiddy modern trans and gay issues

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CaptainHowdy 05-25-2023 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23137998)
fiddy modern trans and gay issues

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"Modern" sounds sort of dated nowadays, ain't it ? ?


Huggles 05-25-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 23137991)
The shitlibs typically win culture wars, but with their duplicitous terms, they are setting themselves up because the conservatards are now not only using the same words, but the same dictionary; and like it or not, agree with it or not, (not questioning anyones position) they are using the lefts illogic from me too and believe all women to apply this Salemesqe outrage and tactics to every possible point of failure they can.

I believe that porn will become a political target for whichever side can use it to whip up the most support.

Lowest hanging fruit. I also thought about this after New Zealand banned smoking for anyone born after a certain date:

https://www.dw.com/en/new-zealands-s...m%20cigarettes.

Who defended smoking?
Who will defend porn?

Tjeezers 05-25-2023 05:09 PM

don't play chess with pigeons .. enuff said

Huggles 05-25-2023 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 23138027)
don't play chess with pigeons .. enuff said

For every 1 chess player there are now 10,000 pigeons already shitting everywhere, and soon there will be a manipulative pigeon telling the other pigeons there is shit everywhere because of the chess player.

plsureking 05-26-2023 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23137958)
If you're not paying attention to the way the winds are blowing, I think you're a moron.

The cultural war is heating up, and I wouldn't be shocked if they come after 18+ porn next!

well i think you are paranoid and full of shit. you pop up out of nowhere trying to start a political thread in the wrong forum.

however, if they somehow raise the legal age of porn - as if it is enforced now - or somehow make it illegal for US IPs to view porn - im(fucking)possible - i will buy you a box of donuts.

cuz you are probably a fed anyway :1orglaugh

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Huggles 05-26-2023 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23138118)
well i think you are paranoid and full of shit.

After the events of the last 2-3 years, would you be shocked if the next current_thing was a puritan backlash?

:upsidedow

BaldBastard 05-26-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23138248)
After the events of the last 2-3 years, would you be shocked if the next current_thing was a puritan backlash?

:upsidedow

That would be very American!

I wonder if the big adult sites are seeing changes in "Trans" traffic. Has it increased or decreased in American States due to their political leaning?

JesseQuinn 05-26-2023 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BaldBastard (Post 23138260)
I wonder if the big adult sites are seeing changes in "Trans" traffic. Has it increased or decreased in American States due to their political leaning?

I would guess probably at least a slight increase. and in porn it kinda used to be terms like 'shemale' or 'ladyboy' or 'butch lez', so it makes sense searches for 'trans' would increase as the term becomes more widely understood by the general public. according to pornhub trends there was a bump in searches for 'transgender' category content between 2021 and 2022, would bet 2023 will be an increase again

as far as desire for the content in terms of increase in sales? your guess is as good as mine

PH, XVids etc are not exactly a good reflection on actually making money, esp not now lol without cc processing

for peeps working in adult, trans peeps have always been just another part of the industry. we all know peeps who work with trans performers, are trans performers themselves, run trans-oriented sites, are affs for trans-oriented sites, etc etc

I can think of dozens and dozens and dozens off the top of my head on this forum alone


that's why I do think there's a link between attitudes towards trans peeps who are are already a part of this biz and always have been, and the state of adult in terms of regulation and legality

the same religious conservative groups and politicians are cracking down on all of us simultaneously, using the same ideologies of moralistic pearl-clutching. if that's not gay I don't know what is :upsidedow

and they're right, this is not what jeebus died for :1orglaugh

so yeah, setting aside solidarity with peers I think both issues do have a lot similarities in terms of politics, regarding the narratives used to suppress each one, by the same groups/politicians

a lot of differences obv, as being trans or gay is no more or less inherently 'sexual' than being straight and cis, but there are def a lot of commonalities in terms of pushback against us all by the same groups

I don't wanna get too political lest the thread gets pushed downstairs, but it's impossible to discuss current threats to the adult industry without at least touching on politics. won't go farther than that

I dunno, interesting times we live in, but aren't they always

Huggles 05-26-2023 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 23138276)
that's why I do think there's a link between attitudes towards trans peeps who are are already a part of this biz and always have been, and the state of adult in terms of regulation and legality

I feel like anyone in the sex industry needs to realize that people have used porn to make a fortune while not giving a fuck about the industry. Get in, make money, get out. We all remember who fucked us so hard with pre-checked cross sales... or has that been memory holed?

There are politicans out there absolutely ready to throw porn under the bus if they think it could get them elected or gain them followers. I feel like it is just a matter of time now before porn is blamed for social ills that have nothing to do with porn, but porn will become a scapegoat for social ills.

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I dunno, interesting times we live in, but aren't they always
To protect the industry and the people involved, whether they ID as straight, gay, or trans, it doesn't matter, we're all about freedom here, freedom to do with your body what you want after you turn 18.

Maybe I'm nuts, and that's fine, I could be wrong and the industry could carry on like it has, but I feel like the next few years are going to see blame for social issues landing on the porn industry. Just look at the culture war unfolding, it has only just begun.

This business has kept me afloat and able to survive as an artist, writer, life explorer, and affiliate for over 20 years now! It's amazing. I appreciate the adult industry so much. I want to give back, so I'm building a website to help site owners promote their shit with a really simple and basic layout for the surfer to enjoy whether you're on a PC, tablet, or phone.

I feel like now is the time to say that people under 18 shouldn't be exposed to gender ideology and shouldn't be exposed to porn, but once people turn 18, they should be allowed to do (almost) whatever they want. This is a pretty moderate view, but we're living in increasingly extreme times. Like Duke said, there are multiple forces joining together right meow. and porn could become a low hanging fruit for politicians and groups to attack and claim that porn grooms kids. This is something that could absolutely happen and, if it gained momentum, could really affect us all.

Shit is so crazy right now, I just watched a video where someone had their penis removed and turned their mummified dick into a pipe to smoke weed from. This is 2023 and everything is wild beyond whatever we could have imagined in 2013... If you look at history, shit is wild and groups like the puritans did not fuck around, if someone rises to power and declares porn is the problem, we're all fucked six ways to Sunday.

I can't survive in 2023 Canada without a porn income because dealing with normal people is too painful and shitty. I just want to be behind a keyboard doing some work in front of a screen, and my mind tells me that the future may view sexual freedom as something to crack down upon. I hope I'm wrong!

TL;DR

Porn could / will be the next target in the culture war

wildphoenix 05-26-2023 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23136642)
Most people on this forum have been exposed to news regarding drag queen story time, bud light, LGBTQ+ and much of the identity and culture war stuff that has been going on.

I think the porn industry as a whole would be wise to advocate for the staunch support that anyone making major decisions about their sexuality, like doing porn, or puberty blocking, or transitioning genders or whatever, should wait until they are 18.

18+ should be where the porn industry maintains a solid line. This is the hill to fight on.

Make therapy and shit cheap or free for people under 18, and the porn industry as a whole can see this as a victory. Nobody is mature enough to make such life-changing decisions like doing porn or transing your gender before you are 18.

I think this is a huge opportunity for the porn industry to set standards for what is socially acceptable. And, after 18 years old, people should be free to do (almost) anything they want on camera for an audience. Before you are 18, you should be limited to what you're exposed to and what you're able to do with your body.

There is a very real threat to the porn industry if the growing backlash against the LGBTQ+ and trans people keeps gaining momentum like we see with the laws passed in Florida.

I think there will be people grifting that porn is the reason why there is gender/sex wars happening and then grifters will make money by attacking the porn industry.

What do you people think?

Or, maybe let it be between the doctor and the patient? Why should a doctor, backed by the medical associations and scientific community, be overruled by a politician for doing something the patient wants?

Also, comparing doing porn to being trans is... ridiculous.

Huggles 05-26-2023 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23138118)
well i think you are paranoid and full of shit.

https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/...22360814673924

:12 seconds in

I am a prophet, bow before me bitch

King Mark 05-26-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23138371)
https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/...22360814673924

:12 seconds in

I am a prophet, bow before me bitch

You're spitting in the ocean bro. You haven't realized you're dealing with a cult yet. The largest cult on earth at the moment. Once the rightard attack on the porn industry officially starts, you'll learn a valuable lesson when the degenerates you're trying to talk sense into on here all start selling their porn assets and sending all the money to Billionaire Trump to pay for all his legal issues in efforts to get him to be president again... and they're going to blame Trannies, Libs, Biden, Blacks, Soros, Ukrainians, Mexicans, Aliens, Magnetic Vaccines, Muslims, the Clintons, Ghosts, etc, etc, etc for it all... everybody but themselves for their own self-destructive backfiring choices they constantly make to pWn dA lIbZ.

Huggles 05-26-2023 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 23138374)
You haven't realized you're dealing with a cult yet.

Can anyone find a video clip of the last major politician attacking a porn site openly and claiming it should be illegal?

A few days after I make this post and a major politician totally confirms my original suspicions.

Just sayin'

plsureking 05-27-2023 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23138371)
https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/...22360814673924

:12 seconds in

I am a prophet, bow before me bitch

your proof is a low level congresswoman preaching to her hillbilly constituents in a school gym?

fuck off :1orglaugh

they outlaw a lot of good stuff in the South, including anal sex and weed. that place is another world, and when the US fails, it will be its own country. you can be sure Texas and Cali will be their own countries too.

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Huggles 05-27-2023 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23138388)
your proof is a low level congresswoman preaching to her hillbilly constituents in a school gym?

fuck off :1orglaugh

Okay, come on, admit that it was pretty funny that she made those comments a couple days after I made this post.

When was the last time you heard this rhetoric on video? Can you share a link?

:banana

:rainfro

:angrysoap

plsureking 05-27-2023 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23138401)
Okay, come on, admit that it was pretty funny that she made those comments a couple days after I made this post.

When was the last time you heard this rhetoric on video? Can you share a link?

:banana

:rainfro

:angrysoap

ya you are probably right. she probably follows you on gfy :1orglaugh

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Huggles 05-27-2023 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23138404)
ya you are probably right. she probably follows you on gfy :1orglaugh

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I miss all the bullshit with Juicy D Links and Sleazydream

Really hope no asshole politician comes after the porn industry, if I lose my porn income, I'm fucked!

plsureking 05-27-2023 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23138409)
I miss all the bullshit with Juicy D Links and Sleazydream

Really hope no asshole politician comes after the porn industry, if I lose my porn income, I'm fucked!

the only real threat is billing. that's what is [thankfully] killing the tubes. banks are getting tighter and need a mountain of paper.

i built a facebook app that downloads your fb media to private cloud storage. i got banned by fb early this month because fb login now requires business verification. yes shitty public poop stall facebook needs to store all of our business licenses now.

its getting harder to do business (or even dev) online these days.

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