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gregdumas 06-16-2025 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jman (Post 23377388)
Hey Greg, hope you are well. I've been trying to get in touch with you. Do you have TG?

I sent you an DM on TG

gregdumas 06-16-2025 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23376598)
I tried to diversify with CamBuilder at the start of the year but it was nothing but problems. Their XML tracking didn't work for several weeks and two test campaigns had terrible results. Sad to say there haven't been many good alternatives lately.
WG

This is discouraging because I just created about 30 white labels on Cambuilder. It's not enough time for results but now you have me worried.

Any thoughts on Stripcash?

gregdumas 06-16-2025 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 23376865)
Yeah and that's an issue because there is no one who is really able to provide a compelling argument as to what the problem is. At best I am able to say there is a problem in some regards:

If I go and look at my last xxx number of transactions the only older sales I see are not from white labels, their tracking is for the Chaturbate domain itself. All of my recurring white label spenders disappeared after February and I only have very recent spenders there.

At the end of April all of the engaged hits for White Labels ceased being recorded.

As of the end of April the raw traffic has not been counted fully on my white labels.

I made a post about this last month here and contacted Chaturbate support.

I see this as factual, but what conclusion can be drawn from it is a different matter.

This is part of the problem. The communication from the company is horrible. I get a better response trying to contact a govt agency. If I could just get someone there to understand what's going on with MY SITUATION which I am sure many others are having too. I'd be happy to post the solution or lack thereof.

Yes, it's communication but it's also the fact that they completely eliminated revenue that was there one pay period and not there the following pay period. It just disappeared like it never existed. I know it's because of their change to tracking affiliates but they should have considered the revenue that was generated by old affiliate IDs that don't get new traffic to the affiliate link but are tracked by their system to allocate the payouts accordingly. That's the problem.

This isn't a small amount of revenue, gross or net. It might be accidental but it's a complete violation to the entire business model of revenue sharing. And the fact that no one will at least listen only makes it worse.

gregdumas 06-16-2025 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 23376621)
Its not strange if you don't provide any context. How many monthly unique spenders on each whitelabel made up that revenue? If you don't understand your stats then how can you figure out the issue? How can you say it's not necessary to understand the problem? You've asserted that chaturbate has made a drastic change in the way they count affiliate's revshare. If you can't articulate the problem other than saying your stats are zero then how do you expect anyone to believe your accusation.

2 spenders could have made up 90% of that period revenue, once they leave then revenue drops to zero. If you told me that you averaged 30 unique spenders each month across all your whitelabels and then suddenly it went to zero by showing a screenshot of cb-stats, then you'd definitely have proof that something occurred outside the norm.

With all respect, I don't think you understand what I am trying to say here. I am not publicly displaying my stats but I can say that it's more than 80% of my overall affiliate revenue. I said it in a prior post. They're not crediting affiliates with revenue that isn't generated by active links. They are withholding the revenue from users who were tagged to an affiliate long before these changes. Plus, no one responds.

mainstreammix 06-16-2025 02:08 PM

I really hope it's a mistake. Never used the white labels enough to check and normal stats are fine but these guys have been paying fair since the free site days. Must have recommended it to 1000+ people by now as an example of a legit company. :(

lemonlinx 06-16-2025 03:15 PM

So, is it better to send to whitelabel or directly to CB?

natkejs 06-16-2025 10:41 PM

I dunno man, you're coming with some big accusations without anything that shows how you came to this conclusion.

In my own case I have whitelabels that are 10 years old and have no traffic anymore but still make money. 0 engaged hits but revenue still adding up.

It doesn't check out with your claims.

itx 06-16-2025 11:21 PM

Hello guys, I register a test account in my Whitelabel and appears in the stats. The global situation due the war and cheap politics, is not good is the first time that i say this, if you still belive in the Chaturbate affiliate program need to push harder to find the fishes. :2 cents:

SecretEmpire 06-17-2025 06:01 AM

Chaturbate, like every other adult affiliate program, does not give a flying fuck about you.

Speigelau 06-17-2025 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gregdumas (Post 23378159)
With all respect, I don't think you understand what I am trying to say here. I am not publicly displaying my stats but I can say that it's more than 80% of my overall affiliate revenue. I said it in a prior post. They're not crediting affiliates with revenue that isn't generated by active links. They are withholding the revenue from users who were tagged to an affiliate long before these changes. Plus, no one responds.

I know exactly what you're trying to say here and it's 100% false. I have had hundreds of spends the last 2 months on multiple white labels from users who signed up 7+ years ago, some as far back as 2013. You continue to recite a lie by stating that CB is not crediting new sales from past referrals.

I never asked you to post your stats, I asked some simple questions that might help me better understand your user base and what kind of volume you are doing and a possible reason for your sudden downturn in sales and you didn't answer any of them. I've helped dozens of affiliates better understand their accounts and figure out issues with their stats.

lemonlinx 06-17-2025 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by itx (Post 23378315)
Hello guys, I register a test account in my Whitelabel and appears in the stats. The global situation due the war and cheap politics, is not good is the first time that i say this, if you still belive in the Chaturbate affiliate program need to push harder to find the fishes. :2 cents:

I can also confirm this, I tested a signup on my whitelabel and it showed up on the stats

KrisKross 06-17-2025 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by itx (Post 23378315)
Hello guys, I register a test account in my Whitelabel and appears in the stats. The global situation due the war and cheap politics, is not good is the first time that i say this, if you still belive in the Chaturbate affiliate program need to push harder to find the fishes. :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by lemonlinx (Post 23378392)
I can also confirm this, I tested a signup on my whitelabel and it showed up on the stats

I don't if it is true, but Greg isn't saying that there's an issue with new whitelabel signups. He's saying he's no longer getting credit for older signups to his whitelabels.

itx 06-17-2025 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross (Post 23378485)
I don't if it is true, but Greg isn't saying that there's an issue with new whitelabel signups. He's saying he's no longer getting credit for older signups to his whitelabels.

That's a big issue. In the last three months, I was earning in the range of $ X,XXX, but now I'm down by -40%. I send most of my traffic to the WL, so this is a significant drop in earnings, especially considering that I am sending the same amount of traffic (targeted and general adult traffic). Something strange is happening this month. Maybe he can share how he found it?

mechanicvirus 06-17-2025 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by itx (Post 23378489)
That's a big issue. In the last three months, I was earning in the range of $ X,XXX, but now I'm down by -40%. I send most of my traffic to the WL, so this is a significant drop in earnings, especially considering that I am sending the same amount of traffic (targeted and general adult traffic). Something strange is happening this month. Maybe he can share how he found it?

Are you assuming every visitor is acting the same, year over year?

itx 06-17-2025 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 23378493)
Are you assuming every visitor is acting the same, year over year?

I'm not assuming that every visitor acts the same way. There has been a significant drop of nearly 50%. If what Greg is saying is true, that explains it, I'm in the same boat.

lemonlinx 06-17-2025 06:23 PM

I have a few spenders from 2014/2015 but they were all sent directly to chaturbate and I never used a whitelabel back then


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