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Originally Posted by asorelli
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I don't follow every bit of news, and absolutely stay away from politics, sorry to disappoint. Now how about you answer some questions that I asked, instead of the typical hit and run, and "get a plug" for your software that I see you like to do.
Do you see me selling anything or trying to pitch an agenda? For fucks sake, relax.
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I already answered many of your questions and participated in the discussion. You seemed a lot more cordial when you thought I was someone else.
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Originally Posted by asorelli
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If you're more concerned with attacking and/or trying to diminish my character, then the issue itself, then there is a bigger problem, no doubt. And if you want to have the arrogant approach that "oh, we've done this and we've done that, the best this and the best that, and where have you been?!" then again, bigger problems at hand. :2 cents:
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You're extremely aggressive--for what reason? I'm not trying to diminish your character or attack you. I am asking you to reflect on your behavior. You're being disingenuous because I was one of the only people here actively engaging your original post and, again, you seemed to like it then.
You made statements as if they were fact, and you didn't do any research beforehand. You self-admit you aren't political, and you don't participate in discussions, but you're also simultaneously lambasting the industry for not getting ahead of this and demanding people answer you. You're angry because you don't know and you want someone else to do this work for you, but you could also just participate in this forum (at the very least) and read threads. Don't you think you would be in a better and more productive position for discussion?
If you want the industry to have lobbyists in DC, or throw billions of dollars at the problem, you are more than welcome to setup the National Pornography Association and get it going. Like I said, it's going to be expensive. If you want people to participate with you, they need to make a lot more money, and fast. Now you're upset that I'm trying to work together with other site operators, and help them, and yes, make money? That's literally the foundation of capitalism. "I thought this was America." What would you prefer people do, if not help each other build solutions in this industry?
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Originally Posted by asorelli
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I don't know the exact quote, but aren't you the same dude that said the govt should be responsible for handling the id verifications. Seriously, for reals? :1orglaugh
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Yes, I think if governments are going to set legal requirements for site operators to fit within, they should build the infrastructure to support it. Where do you think your government issued ID comes from? They already know who you are, what you look like, your age, your location, your income, what you do for work, what you drive, etc. Have you never swiped your ID when purchasing alcohol? Have you never gone gambling? Do you not own a gun? Do you not have any assets? Do you not pay taxes? Do you not have a passport? Do you not interact with any government digital services?
I suggested since they're setting laws, they come up with a zero-proof knowledge of yes/no-ing whether someone is an adult. The technology already exists in some form, and they should be required to support it if site operators can go to jail or become bankrupt from trying to do business in an industry that has existed forever.
Are you less concerned that Visa, Mastercard, Google, or Apple know what you masturbate to? I don't see why you prioritize a private company that would sell you out for whatever they can get, versus a regulated ZPK system sponsored by a legitimate authority, which would prevent site operators from being legal targets.
No private company is going to setup a ZPK because they have to prove, in a court of law, that they verified someone's age. That means they need to retain records in some form.
There will be no more adult content created if site operators cannot avert risk. There is no money in setting yourself up for infinite lawsuits.
You and I fundamentally agree, I think, that these laws are not designed to protect anyone, but to destroy the adult industry. You and I are both upset that we're in this situation. You and I are both upset that more wasn't done, but where we differ is that I don't think we should blame each other for this. Instead, I think we should focus on risk mitigation in the short-term to make sure that site operators can continue to make money and be prosperous (you call this rolling over,) and in the long-term, make sure the type of people in charge right now, do not get re-elected ever again (and to expand the court etc.)
