we've got Tolik's url!

yep yep!

someone (who will remain nameless) sent it to me last night
(Thank you! thank you! if you're reading this)

here's our buddy Tolik's url (please add him to your banned lists)

Yo TGP http://tgp.pornomillennium.com/tst.shtml
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McCarthy-ism?
I could see how this could be interpreted as a witch hunt. Of course, I am not obligated to include ALL the names/URLs in any blacklist I use. I am free to go and read the threads, and then decide for myself. Since I am an American, I am used to making my own decisions, under my own free will.

Many of these names I see on this list have displayed a total lack of class in their comments. Wether they hail from Serbia, Iran, the former USSR, China, or Brooklyn - they totally suck IMHO. For that reason, I would not do business with them. I know I don't have any trades with these guys (not suprising), but now I also know I never will.

I guess their parents never taught them that if you have noting nice to say, you shouldn't say anything. Since Tuesday, I have found it very difficult to read the boards. I am amazed at the level of stupidity that webmasters are willing to display.

well, you've got me confused now Steve

this isn't a witch hunt
we aren't going out LOOKING for these people (at least I'm not) they're coming to US

the reason I nominated xteens.net and tolik is because they both OPENLY said that we got what we DESERVED! and that they're "glad" this happened to us (those statements are PURE EVIL) granted, they ARE entitled to their own opinion (if they're in a free speech country), but we're also allowed to ban whoever we want

as for being "obligated" to ban these people
nobody said that (that I'm aware of)
it's your site, ban who you want or don't ban who you don't - this is a free country

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maybe I'm reading your post wrong, but I thought I should clear those things up

for instance, in my post I said "PLEASE add him to your banned list" not "YOU BETTER OR ELSE" hahaha

Lisa

Yep, you mis-read me. Or maybe I wasn't doing a good job of expressing my thoughts. Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to say that it isn't McCarthy-ism since I CHOOSE to do it.

Basically, this thread is a parralel of conversations I have had with Alex and Jason at the office, and with my girlfiend, Mistress Marina, over the past few days. These fucks can have their beliefs, but I am not doing business with them.

While I am a firm believer in freedom of speech, I am also firm believer in individual freedom, too. If Milan, Hypo, William, and other webmasters want to celebrate the murder of US citizens, they can. If board owners want to contunue to allow them to post their thoughts, they can.

But, I can decide not to do any business with them. I can decide to not feed their gallery pages with my traffic. I can decide to not trade any traffic with them. I can decide to continue to point out the fact that they totally suck to other webmasters who might have missed it.

I might not be in total agreement with that list, but I am in agreement with the idea of it. I fucking love it. All these big mouthed pieces of shit, shoving their anti-US sentiments down my throat... but where are their URLs? Not enough balls to post them? No wonder. I guess they aren't that fucking stupid.

Hey i agree with this and i agree with the Mccarthy hearings. Its like my daddy used to always tell me, "We dont need no stinkin arabs or commies."

Just take Much0s off that list.. he is no
anti-american..

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yep, I definately mis-understood you and I agree with you 100%

they're cowards like Bin Laden
he's not stupid (even though he looks like it) but he'll be FUBAR soon enough
hahaha

(FUBAR = Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition) for those that don't know

And you run adult-host eh? The biggest
competition of Iephosting, you're just trying
to give him a bad name, by saying this..

This is not right, IEPHOSTING is NOT
anti-american hosting, or anything like that.
The guy justed wanted to tell the other
side of the story

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Really? He sure came across that way here: http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ub...ML/008838.html

Let me point out this little snip from your buddy old pal Much0s, chatting it up with that barrel of laughs William:

Much0s:
That's what you get when you behave like that... everybody will start to move to europe now (you hear that aloha?)

William:
I can't deny my feelings anymore. I must laugh! Hahahhahahaha! Your own medicine eh Americans?

Uhm, what I meant was; my condolenses.

Much0s:
you take the words out of my mouth will.

That sounded pretty anti-American. And if not, pretty in-human. So, fuck Much0s. He earned his spot IMHO. I could care less how many buddies come out to defend him now. His comments were posted right there in public on Tuesday. Now, he gets to live with it.

Funny, the "story" I just posted sure sounds like the guy that owns IEPHOSTING is anti-american. At the very least, you can defend him as a crass, insensitive asshole who doesn't know when to shut the fuck up. I think calling him anti-american is a little nicer way to put it, though.

excuse me. According to most american people, your president and your government officials the united states of america is the perfect example of a FREE society. Which is true in my opinion. One of the reasons the USA keeps on intervening with foreign politics is because they want the rest of the world to be FREE like them. Then explain me this:

why are you people trying to ´blacklist´ people with an opinion slightly different then yours. You are neglecting one of the MOST IMPORTANT rules of the American society:
´freedom of speech´

I can understand if you don´t want to do bussiness with people who are pro-terrorist, but the people currently on the list are far from pro-terrorist. They just didn´t share the same opinion on the ´attack matter´.

You people are the Anti-Americans! Not the people on this list! You are neglecting the main values of your own society!
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hey Sovjetz, I agree, but nevermind, there's
no fucking way to talk with these American
guys.. they don;t seem to understand..

Ah nevermind..


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thanx cocktail,

indeed it´s time for a beer http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

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[This message has been edited by Sovjetz (edited 09-16-2001).]

baddog, I'm definetly NOT anti-american, and AM definetly anti-terrorism. I will likely be moving to the US, whether you want us sympathetic poor Canadians over there. I have been to the US many times and find the people there a different kind of lively than in Canada. I'm not just saying this to try to save myself. I am giving counter-arguments for your claim that I am anti-american and pro-terrorism. In ALL of the posts I have put on this board, I am pro-civilian life, I agree with every single one of you when you want revenge upon the terrorists. Bin Laden no matter if he did it or not is fucked, and he has done terrorist acts directed toward the US. And if I did bash anyone, it was an individual. Obviously people react in certain ways, and if only people that show a kill-them-all view then all-will-die, which goes against my killing-of-wrongful people idea. So.. yeah.

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Well guys, I guess you missed my earlier posts. I am not saying you can't say what you want. you can. I'm just expressing my own personal freedom to do business with who I choose.

Wether or not JJJ, Lisa, Rocky, or anyone else "blacklists" these guys is of no real concern to me. If you deal with them, more power to ya.

I won't. The word "blacklist" is just a word. It means I enter the domains onto a list, and it denies that doamin the ability to sign up for a trade, or be listed in one of my TGPs. I am not going to tell you, or anyone else, to "blacklist" these people.

And yes, you can talk to "these Americans", even me. I'm not here to tell anyone how to think. I am just telling you what I feel, and what I think.

You guys need to take off your Anti-American glasses, so you can read this shit better.

The buildings that were destroyed, besides the pentagon, were the WORLD TRADE CENTER. Many, many countries lost people in this, not only the USA.

Its not about freedom of speech its about hate. Hate against FREE people from all over the world to be FREE from terror wherver they might be.

You can call me whatever the fuck you want but I will never do business with people who support the killing of innocent people.

JJJ
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Do you really think I, Sovjetz, or Much0s does support the killing of innocent people??



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JJJ,

honestly i think nobody on this board supports the killing of innocent people!
I doubt that there is ANY adult webmaster in the world which does not feel bad about what happenned last week. I think such a list is pretty useless.....

regards,

Sovjetz

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That's right cocktail.

I think most of the people on this blacklist are probably just misquoted...
Nobody on this board liked that thousands of people were killed or are for terrorism they just have a different opinion about why the attacks have occurred and how America should respond to this.

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hehe simulair thoughts on the same time http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

I'm all for freedom of speech. I am also free to blacklist anybody I damn well please. I don't need to justify a mutha fuckin' thing.

And if someone doesn't like it, then TOO FUCKING BAD.

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sure amputate you may go right ahead!

just make sure you put them on the ´i don´t like these people´ list instead of the ´in favor of the killing of innocent people´ list....

it can be very offensive

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Well, sure sounds like Mr. Much0s didn't have a problem with the killing of innocent people.
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ub...ML/008838.html

Much0s:
That's what you get when you behave like that... everybody will start to move to europe now (you hear that aloha?)

William:
I can't deny my feelings anymore. I must laugh! Hahahhahahaha! Your own medicine eh Americans?

Uhm, what I meant was; my condolenses.

Much0s:
you take the words out of my mouth will.

As far as you, and Sovjetz go, I don't recall you writing any inflammatory remarks. I would assume you are decent human beings. Much0s, on the other hand, sure did a good job of making himslf look bad.

Hi Guys,

This is going to be my first and last post regarding this issue on this board.

All I wanted to say is that i was very unclear in the regarding line on the post on AWI, as I've explained to some of my friends last few days, all I was trying to say was that with the foreign politics the US has, this was bound to happen some day.

I am a very non violent guy and oppose to violionce uncondiotionally. Those who know me, know of some matters, and they can stand for what I just stated I think.

Furthermore I've a lot of family in the US, so being anti-american, would also mean that I would turn against my own family.

I find it a pitty that from all posts I made people keep referring to that one line. People seem to have missed my explanation for that line and also the fact that I've family in the US myself.

I would also like to thank MR Cocktail, and my other, for standing up for me, although I advised them not to do so.

Also I would like to send a big fuck you to Edwin (Raiden) and Ivo (Ivanhoe) for continuesly trying to grap each effort to hurt one of my businesses. I would never have thought you would sink so low... but I don't care, do whatever you want, the next time you're begging me to help you, i will not.

Now think of me how you want, and blacklist me if you want, at least I've made my saying.

Since i do not regurarely read or post on this board, I would like to take the opportunity to send my condolences to all those who lost someone and like to wish all of you the strength you need to carry on.

Take Care,
Much0S

Steve,

Muchos i guess has a large dislike of president Bush and the American foreign policy but that does not mean he´s in favor of the killing of innocent people.

I agree his timing is a little bad but that doesn´t make him into a heartless human being.

regards,

Sovjetz

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People stop for a moment and think:

I can understand what JJJ is saying I can even agree to it up to a point. I have Also read the stuff on AWI and yes there were some pretty inhuman posts made.

BUT

I honestly think that a boycot or blacklist if you will is not helping. In fact I think it hurts all those maintaining that blacklist.

Think of it:

When people like JJJ that run considerable sites start acting in this manner and others follow what would be accomplished?

The result would be people that actualy think this will keep it to themselves and you won't know if you do business with them or not.

I believe this is a quote from a song from Megadeth:

"Just because i don't say it, dosn't mean I ain't thinking it."

And that will be exactly what will happen.

I don't know about you guys but I like my enemies visible so I can keep an eye on them.

Therefor my logical conslusion would be that by posting this JJJ has shot himself in the foot in this matter. He would have better posted nothing and quitly gathering the info he asked for and then send them away with a bullshit reason, because that would have gotten the result he wants without driving those that think like that underground,

Now on another note I know Harvey fairly well and I have certainly seen his posts over the last couple of months.

He is NOT anti American and neither is Soul Rebel. This is the perfect example of the witchhunt that can be created if there is no voice of reason present to warn against it.

Baddog and all others: I feel very sorry for every American or other human being that has been hurt because if the attack that has taken place, but please keep it in the back of your minds that the wounds are very fresh. You are not thinking straight right now, you're hurting. Give it time to heal and in a few weeks from now you will be reading Harvey's posts again and think hell I completely misread his intentions.

So instead of fueling this ongoing rage let me end this post with a more constructive and positive remark:

The Paypal relieve funds is well ofer $ 1,000,000 And that realy makes me feel good to see that over 30,000 people donated such an amount and I am very grateful to be among them. That makes me proud!

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Sovjetz,
You can see it your way. And I can see it my way. PO-ta-toe. po-TAH-toe. All I know is guys were whooping it up on Tuesday. Now, I see lots of backpeddling, and explaining.

Trust me. You won't read any celebratory comments from me if/when bombs drop or bullets fly. I will never get excited by the loss of human life. I don't hate all Arabs, or Muslims because some extremists attacked the USA. Now, if some people exercised the same degree of decorum this past week, they wouldn't feel the need to defend themselves.

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Thanks, Sovjetz
I'd like to point out that about half the population of the USA is not thrilled with Bush. He barely squeaked into office.

But disliking the Pres, and saying we had it coming.... well, one is acceptable(many Americans make a living by ripping on the President), and the other is deplorable.

I have to say I agree with jjj and baddog
100%.

I learned years ago, if you want to hurt
someone, the best way is in there pocket book, and after reading what these people said they deserve every thing
they are getting.

They opened mouth and inserted foot.
Just like a drunk will say shit when there
drunk that they would never say sober.

Well I believe these people were drunk on the joy of what happened to us.
bump.

I truly believe you stated your true feelings and I WOULDN'T PISS ON YOUR GUTS IF THEY WERE ON FIRE.

bump

Jim


[This message has been edited by jimmyf (edited 09-16-2001).]

all I say is don't fuck with steve when he's in that mood, he'll knock your brain out with his index and thumb only http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif


just wanna say something about one of your comment steve. you said something like the board owners leaving the posts there and all..


well, I dunno about lens and his crew, but in the past few days over AWI it has been HECTIC... at first, I tried to close the pointless racist threads, and the hate threads about the USA... but doing ANYTHING over these threads only increased the unrest on the boards, while getting everyone against me and the other guys..

so what am I suppose to do? continue to stay partial and close what I believe is right and get people against me ?

I chose to get out of the heat and let those who want to keep rubbing it in do what they please. I chose not to interfere in a time of sadness

guess that explains a bit?

I also would like someone to send me the blacklist as I will NOT do any buisiness with any of the people who have made such hideous comments about the events that have happened! Even the morons who posted *you deserve/d it* and are now scambling to make amends, TOO LATE! If they hate America so much then the should not be earning money from America and American sponsors!

bump