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I know people who do stupid shit like he did, ride nurse sharks and stingrays and whatnot....and when they die doing it I will say the same thing about them |
mike did have some good points, but other points such as Steve deserving death are too harsh and could have been reworded. mike should admit to some errors in his original thought instead of defending them.
Good points... Most of the world's perception on certain animals. That certain "tame" (notice the quotes), un-domesticated animals may enjoy a good scratch behind the ear. Steve Irwin greatly aided in this. Steve did a great number of other positive things for conservation. He was also an ENTERTAINER. Even if you disagere with the world's perception on animals which was further misrepresented by Steve Irwin, you can't hate on the positive things he did in Australia and for Zoos around the world. He got what was coming, but he did not deserve it. The word 'deserve' is open to MUCH interpretation and was one of the few errors in your original blog post. With regards to the obsession human's have with touching everything, you couldn't be more right. The entire area of wild animal entertainment is totally fucked and in the wrong direction. |
Also, your wording of cats and dogs "tolerating" you is false. Tolerates? Cats coming up to you...rubbing on you, looking for you to pet them.. doesnt sound like a cat toleratnig its master to me?
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You are correct in that I might have been more "delicate" in my wording but I am writing for a reaction and I got one...lots even.
You see most of the time people can't see something until someone wakes them up. I like to wake them up, make them think, get a reaction. mission....accomplished wouldnt you say? |
I dont think he deserved it, but can't really understand why the aussie primeminister, and others, were shocked by this....Everyone wise would say; when you play with fire, you may get burned.
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Sad to see him go, he was one crazy guy.
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Ok go give a bengal tiger a little scratch behind the ear...he doesnt need you to live and Im sure he is just dying for your attention. dumbass |
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Notice I said "cats and dogs" and "Cats coming up to you... rubbing on you, looking for you to pet them". So you derive bengal tigers from that? dumbass |
did he deserve it?.....no
was it odd that he was killed by an animal?.....no |
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Steve worked hard at interacting with critters that should be seen and not touched. Blame it on reality tv ...... |
your pet dog and cat are your slaves they dont know any different.
take the same canine and feline that hasnt been domesticated and enslaved and see how much it appreciates your "affection" you see this is the fucking problem...people see animals as having these humanistic qualities and want to equate them with their domesticated dogs and cats and the result is a deadly idea that all you have to do is be nice to them and they will be affectionate to you. Look at Siegfried and Roy ... theres another good exampole of what happens when you fool yourself into believing that a wild animal is harmless...even when its been raised by you from birth. |
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fair enough... not like jasonir who started a thread saying he was glad he is dead because his show was annoying.... |
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But I'm the idiot right? I do love idiots thought...really I do Y'all make life so much fun. |
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Yes, it worked on me. You successfully got me to call you an idiot several dozens of times. If you believe that to be a worthwhile achievement, you are indeed "the idiot". |
This is one awesome irrelevant thread - tho would stem from any successful person or popular event.
If the world blew up - we'd have GFY threads supporting the fact that the world "deserved it". Steve was a much respected guy among his fellow naturalists and conservationists - most of them, by far, better qualified that anyone of GFY to give comment. He was also committed to educating people about the wildlife of this planet - a subject very few have a clue about - and did this in his own "Crikey! style". Steve Irwin was passionately against the hunting of wildlife, not just as the popular "Crocodile Hunter", and operated a facility for the rehabilitation of sick and injured creatures. It is thanks to Steve and people like him that many endangered species still exist and thanks to the ignorant, that many species no longer exist. On the day Steve died, I bumped into a friend who does similar naturalist work and knows of his contribution to wildlife conservation - he was very sad to hear of Steve's accident and had nothing but praise for him. This same guy is accredited with the recovery of two almost extinct species, is a major contributor to National Geographic and has a allegedly handled more reptile species over the globe than anyone - he is qualified to give an opinion on Steve. RIP Steve - others will remember you. |
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agreed, heres an eyewitnness account of what happened: Mr Cropp said the stingray was spooked and went into defensive mood. "It probably felt threatened because Steve was alongside and there was the cameraman ahead, and it felt there was danger and it baulked. "It stopped and went into a defensive mode and swung its tail with the spike. |
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Now he's dead from dropping in on a huge fucking stingray! |
I found this thread very useful. I've managed to add quite a few dumb-asses to my Ignore list:
DarkJedi mikesouth mrthumbs jasonir L-Pink :thumbsup |
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/ph...cp_1816064.jpg
What could possibly go wrong??? |
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and a lot more about people he does... If I havent yet offended you give me time...I'm workin on it. You can help by letting me know what it is you are sensitive about, I will do my best to get to you as soon as possible Thank You |
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A walk thru a rainforest or jungle can be equally dangerous on occasion - suppose that's why it's called the jungle :) One thing that is totally awesome is to have a guide or expert take you thru a rainforest - amazing!! You will see things that you otherwise may never have noticed. The guy I mentioned above is good at this - in his spare time he takes groups of vets into a rainforest for a week and teaches them stuff. Some local rainforests can be 3000-4000 square miles - lose direction in there and fat chance you will come out alive. With the height of trees and the forest canopy it's hard to tell direction - and a few folks have never been seen again. We went with him once and that was "something else" - he always led, part of the "rules" (mainly to counter anything dangerous ahead). Some stuff from that trip - we walked by a fer de lance snake curled up (very venomous) and never noticed till he turned back and pointed it out. There are small frogs, prob only half inch in size and colorful - but touch em and you get the venom. There are plenty tree snakes of various kinds, but you'd never notice them unless they were pointed out (they blend in with the branches of trees). Walking thru a rainforest has never been so cool :) On a separate occasion - we got back to the car and found a 10 foot boa under it. He was harmless, just had to pull him out - but amazing creature with a skin you'd have to see to believe, and very rare even for that area - something that needs preserved. Anything to do with nature can be dangerous - most of it is not, but the risk is always there and a guy like Steve Irwin knew this pretty well. |
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whateveerrrr...
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it's one thing to criticize his actions while he is alive, but the guy is dead. c'mon now...just let it go...lol...
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Ok when he was alive he was stupid. Now he is dead because he was stupid when he was alive but I guess since he is dead he is no longer stupid |
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Seriously, no good person like Irwin "deserves" to die like that. And he was a good person, one who did a lot for conservation and fundraising for animal causes and the like. I'm sure he had a lot of very productive years left in him but it was tragically cut short. That said, if I ever go diving again I'm wearing kevlar. :D |
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Still yes everyone knew the risks he took, and I am sure noone saw him as invinsible. Btw policemen and firefigters are also risking their lives daily to save - not animals - but humans. Do they also deserve to die? They also do know the risk. When you play with fire you may get burned. No they don't deserve it - nor did Steve. Steve lived his life to the full extents and with a passion like few. He had more wisdom and balls than many. Especialy those who can only talk trash about a now dead person who led a tragic accidet. I am sure you contribute just as much to wildlife as he did, and I am sure you will have as many billion fans as he had at an age of 44 :1orglaugh |
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It is true that he was always bugging the poor animals, but he was an enviromentalist, and one of the few who was actually doing something to try to save this planet... I think his death is a loss for the tree huggers.
Granted, he made his money pissing off a bunch of animals, but he did not hurt them. |
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Btw, I tried accessing his site, www.crocodilehunter.com and it's slow, probably so many hits to it these days ...
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I dont think he "got what he deserved", he died doing what he loved, and knew the risks etc. and I am glad he died doing what he loves rather than being mugged or hit by a bus.
He was a fantastic spokesman/ambasador for animals, the wild and Australia. He was more famous than any Australian actor etc. according to your press, and I he came across as such a very genuine and kind person. He loved animals, and wanted to protect them and stop whaling/killing/poaching etc. all over the world. He put all his money into this, all his millions were put into his wild life funds. He didnt live a rich and fancy lifestyle, the money didnt change him. Steve did some ridiculous things, was over the top, silly at times, and definitely a prankster at heart. But I thought he was awesome, a great aussie guy, a true entertainer, with a passion for what he loved doing that was unrivaled by anyone I've ever seen. Ive been to his zoo long before he was famous, and that zoo was his baby, its a great place, and anyone headed to aus should check it out in QLD, hopefuly it will live long after steves death. And those that argue that what he did was stupid, messing with dangerous animals, or agitating them etc. well I think the money he put into saving the worlds animals etc. and the positive press he gave animals/the wild and Australia, far outways the odd croc/snake/whatever that got pissed at steve poking them or holding them up for a few minutes. RIP Steve Irwin, what a legend you were mate :thumbsup . |
Well put webby :thumbsup
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I wouldn't say he "deserved" it. That word is too strong. It's just no surprise because dealing with wild animals puts you in harms way. Wild animals are wild and may kill intentionally or unintentionally. I don't think that any man has the ability to communicate with the wild animals to safeguard himself.
Personally I can understand the excitement that a guy like him would have. I love animals - wild animals. I've been forever curious about them. When you're curious you often get hurt. |
Yo Mike ...
if Steve's not allowed to get close to animals and simply stroke or pick up the animal ... and therefore should die .... Why the fuck do you rape horses in the middle of the night every night and keep getting away with it? ;) |
He took risks doing what he loved to educate the masses about what many people consider the unknown parts of nature. His up close and personal approach helped researchers and environmentalists on many levels.
He knew the risks but he didn't deserve to die anymore then the astronauts on the doomed shuttle mission. |
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One thing .... who has actually said that he TOUCHED the ray ?? All our news here says nothing about him actually touching it!!! |
One other thing too ... his wife ran the zoo with him. She was also an outdoors person who got up close with crocs and other dangerous animals ... and you know what ... I suspect his son will too ... What you have to remember, is that while everyone around him is sad for the loss, they and I am pretty sure his wife is included, wont be saying he was a dumb fuck ... they'll praise him for all the good work he did... including all the conservationist work he did. He didn't just poke animals... he saved them too.
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his last bit of "education" was "if you stand in the middle of a bunch of poisonous rays, one might at any given moment feel threatened and attack and attack you and kill you". ... hope people got that message. having grown up in alaska and seeing a steady flow of "i'm sooo in touch with the planet and cosmos and animals" hippy types, getting eat by bears... i dont think that type of programming does anyone any favors. deadly animals are deadly animals. |
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Okay... So he may have been swimming right with these rays... but he didn't ACTUALLY touch it... ? So Mike.... You're incorrect!!!!!!!! :winkwink: |
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