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that result in people dying, consider it Darwin at work. People of any passing intelligence know better than to cuddle a bear or shark, no matter how successfuly Erwin may have been at it. If others are too stupid to understand the risk, let Darwin do his work. We already have too many stupid people breeding, anything that will reduce their numbers is good. |
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For the record though, i'm not talking about Steve Irwin. He was good people... |
What a fucking dumbass you are.
Steve didnt "play" with animals. He worked to protect them and educate people about them. He jumped on the backs of crocs & grabbed deadly snakes in an effort to move them from people or populated areas or in some way help the animal or educate people without using drugs which could kill them. And he damn well knew what he was doing because THAT never killed him. He also brought awareness to millions about those animals that we endangered and also VERY dangerous. THAT'S called EDUCATING people on wild animals. He NEVER once said "go do what I do for the hell of it". How the fuck do you think YOU know whats deadly and what isnt? It's because of people like him that have taught people over the years. And what finally got him was a complete accident.... and if you would look into it just a little bit you would find that it happens to divers ALOT. But most times isn't fatal. It was where he got hit that killed him. And just because he had compassion for the animals doesent mean that he thought they had compassion for him. He respected there right to live and die without causing them harm. The outpouring of sympathy is from people that are smart enough to understand why he did what he did. So its perfectly understandable why you don't. |
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Let me spell it out for you. Irwin had a vast knowledge of those animals he dealt with most, and was fully aware of the risks and how to minimize them. Almost everything in his shows was spectacular to look at (and indeed produced to look that way), but relatively safe since Irwin knew exactly what he was dealing with. In the accident leading to his death, Irwin was dealing with a situation with which he was less familiar, but which generally speaking is quite safe. The accident was a fluke (described by an expert on stingrays as a "one in a million chance"), and by no means indicates recklessness on his part. Saying he "deserved it" is like saying a race car driver who gets killed by a drunk driver while driving his Volvo on a normal freeway "deserved it". |
Oh ya....he taught people about animals
"My name is Steve, I am about to surprise a dangerous _____ in it's natural habitat. It has no idea I'm here, what I am, or that I won't eat it." somehow I think that quote L-Pink Posted kinda sums it up |
when you fuck with dangerous animals, you take a chance of getting hurt.
I am surprised it took this long, but to say he didnt accomplish anything or that he "got what he deserved" is just sigwhoring idiocy :321GFY -------------------------------------------- He founded the Steve Irwin Conservation Foundation which is at the forefront of protecting habitats and wildlife, creating rescue programs for some of Australia's most beloved creatures, as well as the leading in scientific research that will help save endangered species for generations to come. Steve helped found the International Crocodile Rescue. For decades he has been on the front lines of crocodile management programs in Queensland, and around the world. Steve does everything in his power to keep rogue crocodiles alive and well, including sacrificing himself. In memory of his wonderful mother, Steve founded the Lyn Irwin Memorial Fund. All donations go directly to the Iron Bark Station Wildlife Rehabilitation Center with 3,450 acres of wildlife sanctuary. He also owns 83,000 acres of endangered Acacia Woodland in southwestern Queensland called Westbore and started the Brigalow Belt Conservation Project. That?s not all. Steve is buying up enormous portions of Australia for the sole purpose of conserving habitats for wildlife. Steve Irwin is responsible for starting endangered species breeding programs for the Southern Cassowary, Koalas, Fijian Crested Iguanas, Bilby Rhinoceros Iguanas, Galapagos Giant Land Tortoises, Aldabran Giant Land Tortoises, Mary River Turtles, Peregrine Falcons, Komodo Dragons, and Irwins Turtles -- a newly-discovered breed named after Steve himself. He has also established breeding programs for such vulnerable species as Tasmanian Devils, Wombats, Echidnas, Red Kangaroos, Asian Small-Clawed Otters, Queensland Womas, Death Adders, Rusty Monitors, Canopy Goannas, Yakka Skinks, Reticulated Pythons, Burmese Pythons, Australian Green Pythons, Sea Snakes, Black Cockatoos, Jabirus, Curlews, and his beloved Saltwater Crocodiles. Steve has helped fund field studies for scores of species of crocodilians, lizards, snakes, mammals, and birds in order to help stave off their habitat destruction and learn exactly what it is those species need to survive. Even today we are learning things we never knew about all sorts of animals, all because of Steve Irwin's work. He is also responsible for the rescue and well-being of thousands upon thousands of animals from all around Australia. His devotion of wildlife and conservation cannot be questioned. |
Steve Irwin didn't deserve it huh? And he was such an expert in animal behavior right? And what he did was "relatively safe" right? Maybe the awareness he should have brought was how many times he was actually attacked...heres a list I found.
This illustrious list includes: * A 4-ft komodo dragon (while in Sumatra); * A tree snake that fell into his boat and bit him repeatedly; * A Reticulated Python. Retics can be constrictive, but this particular snake only seemed interested in biting; * A number of cockatoos and parrots. According to Irwin, "for some reason parrots have to bite me. That's their job. I don't know why that is. They've nearly torn my nose off. I've had some really bad parrot bites." * Several lizards, a pair of Tokay Geckos and a Perenti goanna; * A python (captured on film in the first season of Crocodile Hunter, Episode 2); * Many alligators; * There are 23 different species of crocodile, and as far as I can tell he's been bitten by all of them, including: o Graham, one of the crocodiles at the Australia Zoo. Graham gripped Steve's hand and dragged him underwater, but Steve managed to ease his way out. (This was caught on film in an episode named "Graham's Revenge."); o Agro, another resident of the Australia Zoo who attacked Steve while he was mowing the lawn; o Toolmaker, a 6-ft female crocodile at the Australia Zoo, who bit him for the hell of it; o Anthony, one of the crocodiles that Steve, the Australian Army and the World Society for the Protection of Animals rescued and sheltered in East Timor (also caught on film in a Crocodile Hunter episode). * A bearded dragon, which bit Irwin on the nose. Steve has been struck in the face with the venom of a spitting cobra in Masai, kicked by a cassowary, groped by a baby orangutang and licked on the face by a fierce snake. He insists, "Although I've taken a few bites, it's always been my mistake, not the animal's." Oh ya he deserved it...begged for it even. at least he acknowledged that HE was the dumbass. |
A few things he become famous on TV because he played with danger, thats what viewing public wants to see. So there must of been pressure on him to do things more over the top. Its funny people blame him for being reckless but when working in a industry where is its proven condoms are the only real protection against HIV but the industry doesn't use them because the public doesnt want to see it. Are we really much different from poor Steve?
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so, the core of your "theory" is that since he was doing something dangerous, he deserved to die?? what really made him "deserve" death??
There is a difference between saying "It was likely to happen considering what he was doing" And "He deserved to die"...Deserving to die mean you were doing something so wrong that had a negative impact of such importance that you just don't deserve to live....child rapist...serial killers...etc... Irwin was saving crocs, manipulating dangerous animals for his documentaries/tv shows, taking care of his zoo, hugging snakes etc..sure some may consider it stupid..I mean there is a risk involved, no one is denying that...still, I can think of several people who "deserve" more to die just right now... |
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now that's fucked up. your acting as if he was murdering animals
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just because mother nature doesn't choose to kill off someone based on a how much he deserved to die basis, she does, nonetheless, generally weed out the stupid.
matter of fact I suspect being stupid is a much better criteria than anything else as to when you will join Mr Irwin in that eternal celestial dirt nap. |
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again...you are confusing "likely to happen" with "deserving it"..... Your list only prove that it was very likely to happen... What are you trying to prove? Everyone know he was doing dangerous things...so are race car pilots...and boxers...and every now and then...a boxer dies in the ring, or a pilot on a track....Did they deserve it? |
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one killed him and it wasnt an accident on the part of the stingray defending itself kinda reminds me of the jokes about a rednecks last words... reckon just beforehand Steve said "Y'all watch this" |
I don't think Mike WANTED him dead. I don't think Mike is glad he's dead.
Steve Irwin's style did earn him a "death by nature" |
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Also, getting killed by the stingray was clearly an accident. Stingrays aren't generally considered extremely dangerous animals. To quote an expert: "It's a one-in-a-million thing." (source) |
Of course i didnt want him dead nor am I glad he is dead.
Consider me a lot like the stingray that killed him...Its just really irrelevant Now the good thing would be if people would learn from it and recognize that maybe he was entertaining but what he did was often patently stupid and it earned him his death. |
100 dumb trolls.
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I know people who do stupid shit like he did, ride nurse sharks and stingrays and whatnot....and when they die doing it I will say the same thing about them |
mike did have some good points, but other points such as Steve deserving death are too harsh and could have been reworded. mike should admit to some errors in his original thought instead of defending them.
Good points... Most of the world's perception on certain animals. That certain "tame" (notice the quotes), un-domesticated animals may enjoy a good scratch behind the ear. Steve Irwin greatly aided in this. Steve did a great number of other positive things for conservation. He was also an ENTERTAINER. Even if you disagere with the world's perception on animals which was further misrepresented by Steve Irwin, you can't hate on the positive things he did in Australia and for Zoos around the world. He got what was coming, but he did not deserve it. The word 'deserve' is open to MUCH interpretation and was one of the few errors in your original blog post. With regards to the obsession human's have with touching everything, you couldn't be more right. The entire area of wild animal entertainment is totally fucked and in the wrong direction. |
Also, your wording of cats and dogs "tolerating" you is false. Tolerates? Cats coming up to you...rubbing on you, looking for you to pet them.. doesnt sound like a cat toleratnig its master to me?
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You are correct in that I might have been more "delicate" in my wording but I am writing for a reaction and I got one...lots even.
You see most of the time people can't see something until someone wakes them up. I like to wake them up, make them think, get a reaction. mission....accomplished wouldnt you say? |
I dont think he deserved it, but can't really understand why the aussie primeminister, and others, were shocked by this....Everyone wise would say; when you play with fire, you may get burned.
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Sad to see him go, he was one crazy guy.
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Ok go give a bengal tiger a little scratch behind the ear...he doesnt need you to live and Im sure he is just dying for your attention. dumbass |
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Notice I said "cats and dogs" and "Cats coming up to you... rubbing on you, looking for you to pet them". So you derive bengal tigers from that? dumbass |
did he deserve it?.....no
was it odd that he was killed by an animal?.....no |
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Steve worked hard at interacting with critters that should be seen and not touched. Blame it on reality tv ...... |
your pet dog and cat are your slaves they dont know any different.
take the same canine and feline that hasnt been domesticated and enslaved and see how much it appreciates your "affection" you see this is the fucking problem...people see animals as having these humanistic qualities and want to equate them with their domesticated dogs and cats and the result is a deadly idea that all you have to do is be nice to them and they will be affectionate to you. Look at Siegfried and Roy ... theres another good exampole of what happens when you fool yourself into believing that a wild animal is harmless...even when its been raised by you from birth. |
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fair enough... not like jasonir who started a thread saying he was glad he is dead because his show was annoying.... |
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But I'm the idiot right? I do love idiots thought...really I do Y'all make life so much fun. |
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Yes, it worked on me. You successfully got me to call you an idiot several dozens of times. If you believe that to be a worthwhile achievement, you are indeed "the idiot". |
This is one awesome irrelevant thread - tho would stem from any successful person or popular event.
If the world blew up - we'd have GFY threads supporting the fact that the world "deserved it". Steve was a much respected guy among his fellow naturalists and conservationists - most of them, by far, better qualified that anyone of GFY to give comment. He was also committed to educating people about the wildlife of this planet - a subject very few have a clue about - and did this in his own "Crikey! style". Steve Irwin was passionately against the hunting of wildlife, not just as the popular "Crocodile Hunter", and operated a facility for the rehabilitation of sick and injured creatures. It is thanks to Steve and people like him that many endangered species still exist and thanks to the ignorant, that many species no longer exist. On the day Steve died, I bumped into a friend who does similar naturalist work and knows of his contribution to wildlife conservation - he was very sad to hear of Steve's accident and had nothing but praise for him. This same guy is accredited with the recovery of two almost extinct species, is a major contributor to National Geographic and has a allegedly handled more reptile species over the globe than anyone - he is qualified to give an opinion on Steve. RIP Steve - others will remember you. |
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agreed, heres an eyewitnness account of what happened: Mr Cropp said the stingray was spooked and went into defensive mood. "It probably felt threatened because Steve was alongside and there was the cameraman ahead, and it felt there was danger and it baulked. "It stopped and went into a defensive mode and swung its tail with the spike. |
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Now he's dead from dropping in on a huge fucking stingray! |
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