Originally Posted by L-Pink

Steve was a nice guy, had a nice family, loved nature, etc ...........

BUT, his habit of invading the space of other living things was not something to emulate. His "Robin Williams" approach had bad ending written all over it.

Watching, reporting, appreciating from a distance is one thing.

I grew up in Florida and was PROPERLY taught not to INVADE THE SPACE of alligators, sharks, stingrays, spiders, snakes, and bikers at Daytona Beach.

Imagine him grabbing a guy from a bar, talking wildly in his face, probing, teasing ..... Sad as it is, someone finally kicked his ass.

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Maybe so but I am a LIVE idiot...as oppossed to the one that was stung by the stingray and has now assumed room temperature.

Originally Posted by Kenko

The latest reports say the video shows he did not agitate the ray.
Your comments may have had some value if he was shown to have been provoking it or playing with it..
It seems to just have been just a freak accident - there are only 2 stingray deaths reported in Australian history..

The guy seems to have been someone who knew what he was doing around animals. Sure there are a list of minor wounds, but these are really to promote the show and its conservation message.
No-one really expected him to go like this, hence the public shock and media outpourings.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

he repulses you? are you serious? you are a mean, bitter, obese, old, saggy psycho, stalker hag. is that something to be proud of? dont make me post the video of you.

Originally Posted by mikesouth

from www.mikesouth.com/index.htm



09/05/2006

Fucking With Animals:

I am rather appalled at the outpouring of concern over this Steve Erwin character, yes he was likeable but truth is he was a moron who was doing a disservice to the world and I am amazed he lived as long as he did.

You see I am a true nature lover, an outdoorsman and someone who understands animals.

In nature, and that includes underwater as well as on land you are one of three things at any given moment. You are predator, or you are prey or you are irrelevant. Many larger animals like stingrays, manatees, porpoises and the like have few if any natural predators, to them a human is just another animal so long as it isnt acting in a threatening manner. They simply prefer to just keep a safe distance.

A few animals will intentionally stalk and kill a human, crocodiles, some sharks under the right circumstances and polar bears.

Animals dont have feelings, they don't have compassion and they don't want to be cuddled or loved or ridden. Outside of domesticated animals all animals see any attempt at contact as an immediate threat.

They do understand sex, hunger and fear and they will kill in response to the last two, mother nature has given them a myriad of way to protect themselves and every single one will do so when it feels fear.

Mr Erwin was guilty of being a threat and he got what was long overdue. But moreso than that he was guilty of being stupid and of projecting human qualities onto animals and in doing so to lure idiots all over the world into believing that most of the world around them is filled with animals that are perfectly fine with human contact. A sort of world filled with stuffed animals that you can touch and ride and cuddle with.

That ain't how it works.

Your dog or cat only tolerates your contact because in years of domestication it now fully depends on you, it is no longer a part of nature but is your slave. It cannot live without you.

As a lifelong outdoorsman and avid sportsman I grew up understanding these things and as a predator I never take what I do not use and everything else, I leave alone. If you go into the woods or the water remember your place. Look, don't touch.
If you need to feel superior to an animal by riding it or touching it go home to your horse or your dog, otherwise just observe and learn and leave only your footprints.

If you hug a crocodile, or a stingray or shark or whatever and you end up dead...don't expect me to feel sorry for you, had I been that stingray I'd have killed the dumb mother fucker too.

Originally Posted by GatorB

So you agree like Mike and Webby you are in fact retarded too?

Originally Posted by aico

Yes, it's common practice for idiots to form an opinion before knowing all of the facts.

Originally Posted by PMdave

Actually when I come to think about it: he DID deserve to die this way. Doing what he most loved and a "quick", "painless" death. I'm sure his family and friend can fiind some comfort in that. Way to young to die, but a better way to go as being 75 and going after a long degenerating disease.

Originally Posted by PMdave

Actually when I come to think about it: he DID deserve to die this way. Doing what he most loved and a "quick", "painless" death. I'm sure his family and friend can fiind some comfort in that. Way to young to die, but a better way to go as being 75 and going after a long degenerating disease.

Originally Posted by XRatedX

it seems that a lot of people forget that he got killed by something that basically... well, even if the "worst" case scenario happens and it stings you, then you don't die. steve knew this. i guess the moral of the story is that you can jump on crocs your whole life but you'll still probably end up being killed by something that is ridiculous, or old age.

to say he deserved to die is appalling. like other people have said in this thread, he did more to help animals than anyone in here could do in 100 lifetimes. he didn't touch animals because he had a need to feel superior; he did it because he loved animals, period. that doesn't mean that he wasn't putting himself in harms way from time to time, but he has 100 times the experience with animals than any self righteous hunter and has 100 times more understanding of animals even if he did put himself in situations where they could react in a defensive manner.

i would be willing to bet that he was a better person than any one of us. i would also be willing to bet that he took less risks with other parts of his life than any fun loving person out there. wild animals are so foreign to most people and we think there is a lot more danger in that realm than in the things we do every day. most people are scared of snakes, scorpions, black widows, and other creatures and will do there best to never go near one because they are so "dangerous", but they will still hop in their car every once in a while after having a few drinks and drive home. what is more dangerous? Who deserves to die??

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

For anyone getting the "wife and kids" into the story... being a dad means responsibility.. and doing stupid life threatening shit WHILE being responsible for a child (i wont mention the wife in this case) makes you as bad as a dead beat father

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

no one deserves to die - NO ONE.

Originally Posted by Mediachick

Hi there sister :)

Originally Posted by galleryseek

you know how MANY OTHER people have dangerous occupations that could result in death, and know it, but do it anyway? MILLIONS. firefighters, soldiers, law enforcement, construction, pilots, etc etc etc... are all of those people *morons* and deserving of death when they die?

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

if someone was a firefighter, soldier etc and pushed what they do to the limit for the sake of entertainment and ratings... then.... i dont think it should be international news when that firefighter finally falls off a burning building while showing off for the camera.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

from www.mikesouth.com/index.htm

You see I am a true nature lover, an outdoorsman and someone who understands animals.