so now all you want are daily updates pulled right from the members area to hand out to surfers for free?:winkwink:

who's doing this now?

and still going strong

Nothing. the whole idea of a cheater is someone who's sending you fake traffic. If they were sending damaging traffic such as spyware, the accounts were just killed.
I always got a kick out of hitbotters watching their stats go up.

sure, so your girls could say to you,"hey, what's shorty's name":1orglaugh

In the program I was promoting (clickthrutraffic) I think the TOS changed maybe 2 or 3 times in the 3+ years I was promoting it. I can't speak for your other programs.

If lying about your cheating didn't convice people, do you really think cursing about it will?
Again, you're a liar. you lie about us changing the TOS, and now you're lying about never bitching about not getting your last check.
How would I even know you if you weren't bithing on the boards about your last check?:1orglaugh

maybe its just a language barrier.
Is the truth your second language?:1orglaugh

i assume you won't be having any free hosted galleries?

hell, half the programs that have rss feeds pull from the paysite updates...you pull a single image and a nice long description, that is all

a picture and a description man, if that is going to hurt your retention, then I hate to see what your members areas will look like

Ego is often mistaken for confidence. I've had a few people tell me that I have a pretty big ego. Then after getting to know me they realized that I really don't, I'm just confident in myself.

On the flip side we have people that don't believe in themselves and have no confidence whatsoever. That is usually what's holding them back from being who they really want to be.

The world needs more confident people.

ahhhh, trying to soften your lie now to make it believable, thief?
first it was "every other week" then when you couldn't back up that bullshit, its now "enough"
well, I hate to burst your bubble you lying thief but if you were were able to change your pages once, but not "everytime" you just sunk BV's argument that you *couldn't* change the pages.

you know, there are many people who were caught cheating me who later understood why they were wrong and went on to be successful webmasters. Sadly, you never learned and thought it would be fun to try to get a pound of flesh out of me.

foolish kid.

I was going to reply even more about the rss thing, but fuck it, I can already tell that you are someone that isn't going to work with affiliates to help maximize profits

You are so full of shit its almost dripping out my screen you pathetic liar.

So tell me. When you cut someone off because he does stuff your tos doesnt allow. That means he's sending traffic you dont want. Why do you keep taking it?

ok, so we can rule out searchboxes. so then which program were you cheating, frank?:1orglaugh

Youre a pathetic liar who is so obsessed with cheaters he cant think rational anymore.
Youre a fucking scammer. Thats all. A scamming lying fuck who doesnt deserve any respect. Find anyone who i cheated the last 5 or 6 years. You wont. Simply because i dont cheat.

Well said Sly. Honestly you could just as easily have been talking about me with that. I certainly couldn't have said it any better.

And less egomaniacs. (especially the mouthy ones) :D

thats a big if, my friend.:winkwink:

no, so far, just you.:1orglaugh

I thought you knew all about me. I should find that other thread where you found all these program owners who were backing you up about me cheating and stuff.

Once again your a pathetic punk ass liar and a scammer. You talk out of your ass and it looks very pathetic coming from someone whos older than me.

free hosted galleries have a proven value to the program.

One big question that I haven't seen any of the young 'uns ask....

Tell us your side of the story about the falling out with Serge that led to his retirement.

Anyway, thief, explain us all who i was cheating. Explain it in detail please.

Also why the fuck do you keep taking traffic thats not compliant to your tos. If someone breaks my tos i wouldnt want his traffic, id cut him off, whats the point of having a tos if you dont?

haha, you just explained yourself completely with that one statement

old timers, you all are the same

If a single picture with a description is going to make your page, I'd hate to see it.
again, you want the program to jump through hoops to do all of this and I ask, for what?
how does a single picture with a description help the program or for that matter help you?
This is the question I'll be looking into and deciding what I want to do with the feed.
Once I know its time well spent and not lipstick on a pig, I'll move. not before.

I said I'd look into it and only come out with something that benefitted everyone.
So far, you're looking for one pic and a description when the marketplace is ruled by video.
It seems perfectly logical for me to spend time wondering if this is the best use of the feed.
You wanting it does not make it necissary or best.:winkwink:

One of the few interviews I plan on actually reading through the whole thing...sorry to hear it may have been on the tame side.

...

The only drama I can recall off the top of my head was the whole issue of people not knowing the difference between adware and spyware...and the ethical discussions surrounding even the legit version of that business model.

Other than that, maybe a few cheaters that got mad when you closed down their accounts on one of your old click programs?



**************** Anyways, what I really want to know is: What is the best bottle of red wine you'd suggest for a celebration-worthy event?

once you become a cheater, we extend you no courtesies.

If only you had a clue.

well, I'm glad that after the slapdown I gave you when you tried to cheat me you decided to straighten out but you undo all that good by reminding everyone that you used to be a thief.

son, name calling will not get your reputation back. Lying and cheating is no way to go through life.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Youre delusional beyond repair.

Omg :1orglaugh This is just crazy.

Are you like this in real life as well? Do you live in one big fantasy world or what.

Go seek help man.

It's water under the bridge and Serge and I have moved on. Lets just say I made his top affiliates a better offer. Did this lead to his retirement? you'll have to ask him. I'd have liked to have retired with his money back then.

I don't have to. You've already admitted to not following the TOS.
Being a thief, you somehow think the lie that we "changed the TOS every other week" would be some sort of valid excuse.:1orglaugh

sorry Jace but you don't run a business by giving affiliates useless tools. When I do the feed, it will be after a brain storming session with people understanding the business, not a webmaster looking for a free pic.
Once I've determined how to make wembasters money, it will be done.

Thanks for the offer of advice on this but after your posts, I don't think you're what I'm looking for.

what price range?

You are correct. I'm often wandering these interwebs without a clue.

And for sure, I have no idea about the actual details of your and 12Clicks beef.


What I can bet on is that either 1) his TOS wasn't clear enough and/or 2) your traffic wasn't producing.


How would anyone know which one of you is wearing the shady hat?
Anyone ever put up proof on this one?

100-300

<a little higher if it's worth the jump>

Uhm find the threads about me being a cheater (0) and about 12clicks being a cheater. Tons.

I think that says enough.

I never scammed anyone in my life. What would make 12clicks so special that out of all people i scammed him out of 30 bucks? And if i was the only one saying this i could understand your doubt but ive seens tons and tons of people over the years with similar stories.

Fair enough...


That does say a few things.

with those specs, a good programmer could do that in 48 minutes.

Well I guess you just fucked up for the first time in your life because I own and have been running a program since 1999.

Ray Charles would have been able to figure that out.

Anyways I'm not going to get into a piss match with you. If you want to believe you are infoulable then so be it. I proved that you are capable of making mistakes in this very post.




I anticipated this, don't think I am one of Francks good buddies backing him up to all extremes. I'm not. We are business acquaintances. Now we rarely even talk. Just a short icq every few months.

I just think very strongly that you are wrong about him and for the sake of being right all the time you will not change your opinion of Franck.

OH! and yes, changing the wording on your tgp page will get you banned. Any fucking Newb knows that one.

So I guess this is your first two times you have ever spoken and been wrong?

You remind me of when I was 15 -30 years old. I would argue with George Foreman about boxing and grilling hamburgers knowing I was 100% right.

Anyways,

Time for me to check some things on my program I have never run.

Chow!

Technically I own and run TWO programs now.

The bottom line of my sig is my new puppy. If you have thong traffic it's a GOLDMINE. My own personal exclusive portfolio of exxxtreme bikini models.

Here's a question for 12clicks: How do you explain the collapse of building 7? I've seen you talk about the other towers but I don't think I saw your take on building 7.

maybe not fully but its safe to say you do suffer from other traits of narcissisism such as conceit and egotism.

i also sense a tad of sociopathic behaviour also.

this thread alone could prove those.

thatll be $200 please.

:1orglaugh

Excellent question :thumbsup

I hope he answers it, then we can get CNN to broadcast it so everyone will know the 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt truth. :1orglaugh

far better to actually look at the posters posting the "I'm innocent threads"
take frank for instance.
he admitted breaking the TOS but wants us to believe it was ok because of the lie our TOS "changed every other week"

the questions still seem to be coming in.........I must say impressive

and don't forget to look under his old usernam "battas" or whatever the fuck it was. Oh right, the archives don't go back that far.:1orglaugh

he just changed his name for fun, I'm sure.:1orglaugh

Dude, you better stop with your totally idiotic assumptions because its getting more ridiculous with every post you make. Man, you are so far off with all your bs its simply crazy.

Everybody knew i changed my name. I mentioned it here a 100 times. You think if i change my name to hide something i would tell people???

Fucking retard. Unbelievable. Youre such a clown.

Im happy you made this thread so everybody can see what a delusional idiot you are :1orglaugh

Man, with all your resources and friends who know me you still failed to show me any signs of cheating you or any other programs. How about you stfu with your retarded shit until you find some proof.

Heres a hint: You wont find any you imbecile.

uh, I meant a real program that could be cheated, not the entry level kind.:1orglaugh

yeah, a missed the program under your name.:1orglaugh


as I've explained, your "impression" of him means nothing. People thought John Wayne Gacy was a great clown too.

#1 the wording for the searchboxes were within the box so you're wrong.
#2 honest frank aka battus admitted to not using searchboxes so you're, eh...........wrong.

yeah, looks that way to the limited intelligence crowd, eh? no wonder you gave up on being right all the time.:1orglaugh

Hey, I'm still interested in "the cheater" in my liste of respected people, how they cheated you, and how frank aka battus helped you.
It should be an interesting read!:1orglaugh

150 delusional scammers.