lets not go crazy, if I can make you rich, I'd be busy making myself rich.
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well you said you werent satisfied with the ambush interview.. Isnt that what you wanted ? controversial questions ? or just haters ? i have no time for hate personally.. some people seem to feed off it :) I'm here to have a good time and make money , if i am not accomplishing one or the other i tend to ignore the rest for the most part..

You mentioned earlier that when you caught an affiliate breaking the rules you setup an alternate landing page to trick the affiliate into thinking he/she would still be getting paid so they would keep sending hits ( and so your advertisers werent harmed by the traffic )
How much did you make off the alternate landing page, and/or what percentage of your profits were generated from affiliates who didnt get paid ?

If I were gay, I'd guess I'd have to give both a try and see what I liked.:winkwink:

Come on Bro think of the fun We would have....you can come out to Budapest and O'man.............no more trouble just FUN !!!

A politician couldn't have answered/dodged that question better :winkwink:

well, while I'm certainly glad you realized you weren't bright enough to always be right, your situation has nothing to do with mine. I don't speak until I know I'm right. Not assuming, not guessing, not relying on hearsay. I'm always right because I'm very careful in my determinations. will I ever be less careful? no, I won't.

this isn't true. many many small webmasters take up too much of my time. I take care of them all. The people I have no time for are the ones who, while you're busy helping them (and many times teaching them the business) they come to the boards calling you a cheater or questioning your business ability.
THEN, I have no time for you.


No.
I know he is.

This is one of the hard facts about the internet. You never REALLY know people. you only have a good impression of frank because of your LIMITED dealings with him. I know him as a cheater because I dealt with him on a different level.
No different than the guy who kills his family and the neighbors say,"he was always a nice guy to me. This is a shock"

You don't see the logic because you've never run a program. YOU NEVER EVER WANT TO LOSE A GOOD AFFILIATE. you buy into this whole idea of my identifying someone as a cheater lightly because you have no idea how valuable an affiliate is.
Also, my response to frank was a response to his lie that we "changed the TOS every other week to make people cheaters. This is simply a lie. cheaters lie. I'm sure frank would like everyone to believe that he just didn't change his old pages to comply with the TOS but thats not how you become a cheater. People who had that problem were given a list of their urls that needed changing and then asked to comply. If they had multiple pages and the refering page wasn't in their top top referers, we probably wouldn't notice, much less care.
No, to be marked a cheater, you've got to be cheating. frank is lying about the past. You don't need to lie when you're right.

as I've explained above, I'm never wrong and as I've said in the ambush, I never lie.

I can't speak for others.

unbelievable is more like it.
please explain how you were cheated and by who and how frank helped you out.
Just so we know you're not a liar.:winkwink:
oh, and I have the utmost respect for you too.

none that I listed. you don't make money cheating affiliates. you really don't.

how convenient for you to be running a small program and explaining how most of the "players" cheat.
son, that type of marketing doesn't work.

CD, do you recall our TOS changing every week or was honest frank clearly lying about this?:winkwink:

Fucking bullshit you fucking retard. Fuck you are an idiot class one. Unbefuckinglievable.

I dont cheat sponsors. Period. Not now not 6 years ago. Why the fuck would i?

I tried multiple times to stay within your tos but once again, you kept changing it. And if you notified me about it or not doesnt matter. I couldnt be bothered changing all those pages AGAIN so i simply gave up. And i never bitched about not getting my last check because i knew why. How hard is that to fucking understand you retard fuck??

The funny thing is you kept taking my traffic. So you fucking are cheater here. You take traffic you dont want to pay for. If someone is working outside your tos you cut him off. Both his money AND his fucking traffic you fucking scumbag. Something you didnt and which made you a lot of money. And you pulled this on TONS of people.

You are fucking scum. A cheater who gets away with it for whatever strange reason.

Fucking scumbag. I shit on people like you.

again, honest frank's argument is that we changed the TOS every week. this is a lie meant to cover up the truth. None of our changes in TOS would effect TGPs. Number one, we dealt with blindlinks and searchboxes. TGPs didn't allow blindlinks and changing the wording of a search box would not get you banned.
Any other straw you want to grasp for your lying friend?

Not every week but enough to make me want to stop changing my pages. And with me many other people.

Fucking thief.

And i didnt have searchboxes on a tgp. Where did you get that from you scammer?

gay man's guide to craps was created by the techs in our office and is loosely based on my real actions on a craps table.

having people think I'm gay gets me a lot of fag hags.

disagree. while I *do* crack myself up, I don't love myself in a narcissistic way.

ahahahaha, good one.

12 if you handle the bedroom like the boards then you got a huge career ahead of you :thumbsup

Thanks CD.

If I do one, it will be innovative. otherwise, why do it?

and what exactly does a program get in return for all of this?

for better for the affiliate to take the easy way out. :winkwink:

100 scumbag lying thieving scammers.

so now all you want are daily updates pulled right from the members area to hand out to surfers for free?:winkwink:

who's doing this now?

and still going strong

Nothing. the whole idea of a cheater is someone who's sending you fake traffic. If they were sending damaging traffic such as spyware, the accounts were just killed.
I always got a kick out of hitbotters watching their stats go up.

sure, so your girls could say to you,"hey, what's shorty's name":1orglaugh

In the program I was promoting (clickthrutraffic) I think the TOS changed maybe 2 or 3 times in the 3+ years I was promoting it. I can't speak for your other programs.

If lying about your cheating didn't convice people, do you really think cursing about it will?
Again, you're a liar. you lie about us changing the TOS, and now you're lying about never bitching about not getting your last check.
How would I even know you if you weren't bithing on the boards about your last check?:1orglaugh

maybe its just a language barrier.
Is the truth your second language?:1orglaugh

i assume you won't be having any free hosted galleries?

hell, half the programs that have rss feeds pull from the paysite updates...you pull a single image and a nice long description, that is all

a picture and a description man, if that is going to hurt your retention, then I hate to see what your members areas will look like

Ego is often mistaken for confidence. I've had a few people tell me that I have a pretty big ego. Then after getting to know me they realized that I really don't, I'm just confident in myself.

On the flip side we have people that don't believe in themselves and have no confidence whatsoever. That is usually what's holding them back from being who they really want to be.

The world needs more confident people.

ahhhh, trying to soften your lie now to make it believable, thief?
first it was "every other week" then when you couldn't back up that bullshit, its now "enough"
well, I hate to burst your bubble you lying thief but if you were were able to change your pages once, but not "everytime" you just sunk BV's argument that you *couldn't* change the pages.

you know, there are many people who were caught cheating me who later understood why they were wrong and went on to be successful webmasters. Sadly, you never learned and thought it would be fun to try to get a pound of flesh out of me.

foolish kid.

I was going to reply even more about the rss thing, but fuck it, I can already tell that you are someone that isn't going to work with affiliates to help maximize profits

You are so full of shit its almost dripping out my screen you pathetic liar.

So tell me. When you cut someone off because he does stuff your tos doesnt allow. That means he's sending traffic you dont want. Why do you keep taking it?

ok, so we can rule out searchboxes. so then which program were you cheating, frank?:1orglaugh

Youre a pathetic liar who is so obsessed with cheaters he cant think rational anymore.
Youre a fucking scammer. Thats all. A scamming lying fuck who doesnt deserve any respect. Find anyone who i cheated the last 5 or 6 years. You wont. Simply because i dont cheat.

Well said Sly. Honestly you could just as easily have been talking about me with that. I certainly couldn't have said it any better.

And less egomaniacs. (especially the mouthy ones) :D

thats a big if, my friend.:winkwink:

no, so far, just you.:1orglaugh

I thought you knew all about me. I should find that other thread where you found all these program owners who were backing you up about me cheating and stuff.

Once again your a pathetic punk ass liar and a scammer. You talk out of your ass and it looks very pathetic coming from someone whos older than me.

free hosted galleries have a proven value to the program.

One big question that I haven't seen any of the young 'uns ask....

Tell us your side of the story about the falling out with Serge that led to his retirement.