he actually said

sorry, I am against installs...I make enough money already and don't feel I need to resort to having the surfer distrust me over something like this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adware

"Some adware is also shareware, and so the word may be used as term of distinction to differentiate between types of shareware software. What differentiates adware from other shareware is that it is primarily advertising-supported. Users may also be given the option to pay for a "registered" or "licensed" copy to do away with the advertisements."

"It is not uncommon for people to confuse "adware" with "spyware" and "malware", especially since these concepts overlap. For example, if one user installs "adware" on a computer, and consents to a tracking feature, the "adware" becomes "spyware" when another user visits that computer, and interacts with and is tracked by the "adware" without their consent."

Come on... a good business person doesn't just say hit me up. They do a little research on them first or least remember the company they represent and/or keep. He said he'd never heard of them, how can that be?

But then again, I did say "good business person".

Missie

WILL76 MEANS BUSINESS


!!! ok

Missie you're knowledge on the mainstream adware biz absolutely floors me, I think you should start going to shows and doing panels.

You're 100% top notch :1orglaugh

DH

Oh? And just how many traffic trades, affiliate sales, traffic purchases and other deals are made daily on this board without people knowing each other, do you figure??

Care to take a guess how many background checks Choker does before selling traffic to people?

Your knowledge of the company you keep absolutely floors me. I think you should start attending Kellie's presentations and learn a thing or two.

You're 100% scum. :)

Missie

So what are the names of the companys you deal with then?

DH-

When the bickering is finished, I'd really like to know if you will facilitate adware/spyware that operates in the above manner.

Come on already... we're not talking about every trade made on this board every day. DH says that he ONLY sells to company that do "legitimate legal installs". How would he know that if he doesn't research them first? He just takes their word for it?

Missie

Hey WILL76, someone just asked me this on ICQ.

"totally someone should ask will76 what his beloved ifriends policy is on it where is theyere terms and conditions ?? they prolly were the biggest users of this kind of traffic ever"

Care to comment :)

DH

No, you're right. He should have just known the full intentions and complete background history complete with great grandparents family trees and complete credit history based on a one sentance opening post.

Shame on him for extending an invitation to find out more.

For Shame!!

I mean, the guy's nickname was "EEE"... what more do you need!?!?

And you're an absolute....






































































Nobody.

DH

*shaking head*

So far Zango is technically " Legal" would you sell traffic to someone if they want to push zango installs ????????

ok offtopic. having problem with our fucking PC it has tons of popups/spyware etc etc aning popping up on the taskbar. anyone can lead me to a good site to clean this bullshite? actually want to shoot someone becuase of these stupid warning popups..

anyway im using mac as well.. i don;t think mac is vulnerable with these low life bullshite installers!!

You're the last person to talk about ethics with your ransomware program thats now been shut down.

Still better than an absolute scum. :)

SO then..... which companies meet that criteria, which ones do you use? please do tell.

Too bad your "big install" friend is too chicken shit to post himself. I guess birds of a feather .... you know how it goes..

and if that comment go build a nother nasty dollars gallery is for me, lol we all know that I don't make any money here i am just a surfer :1orglaugh

I've been asking him that since yesterday but all he does is dance around the question and tries to go on the offense. I think he's trying to protect his "legitimate legal partners".

Missie

We don't sell traffic to Zango.

DH

I find it amusing that porn site owners really hate that they get lumped in with popup hell sites and virus installing porn sites... that because some are scum, we all get lumped in and lose out on tons of business because of those low lifes who made people think that all are scum and not accept that some sites really are ok to visit.

And yet.... these same people who hate that so adamently refuse to believe that anything can ever be installed without there being spyware or trojans included. They're so blinded by the hate, that they refuse to believe there's a single piece of software out there that is actually legal... that actually has an "I accept" button... that might not be designed just to cause harm.

those install companies you sell traffic to, is it a one-program install or are they bundlers?

Missie

Do you buy it from them then?

Ok guys, I am out for a little while...

I am going to run down to the library and try and install some more copies of spyware on their computers so I can make another $1.00 an install.

Wish me luck!! :)

DH

I have never done one install or email join in my life and i sent over 18,000 signups to clickcash alone last year.

Nice justification, because you make money doing it, it is ok to do it ? If all adultwebmasters could sling drugs on the corner I am sure they would turn that down and sit in the basement making galleries instead?

moron.

Shut down? Interesting. Im curious how you came to that? We are doing better than ever. LOL. I dont mean to laugh, but I was just looking at how much money we've made since I started typing. Anyway. Thanks for your thoughts.

Can someone summarize this for me... GTS sells traffic to the guys who hijack the affiliate code of the WMs that are also buying traffic from GTS?

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that.

I'm not blind when it comes to spyware, but many others here obviously are.

And just because it has an "I accept" button doesn't make it right or legal. Most people don't have a clue what spyware is, they just realize something is wrong when their computer no longer functions or they're stuck in popup hell.

A lot of this stuff is targeted to kids and teenagers too... Does that make it ok if a 13 yr old who doesn't know any better clicks on "I accept" because he wants to play a game? Do you really think that people read pages and pages of TOS to see what they're getting? There's a reason that these companies make the text font really small, or have several pages of TOS, because they know damn well that people won't take the time to read it.

Surfers have some liability in all of this, but adware companies exploit the internet as much as they can.

Missie

bump for knowledge, bump for life...

oooooh come on perlease!!!

We all know files are getting more compressed and small from sites like yahoo, but yet when you download the same product you have had since 1999, the files downloaded seem to get bigger in MB! Strangly the amount of shit they are lumping on. Yahoo toolbars, homepage etc Ok, they may be legal, but you still get so much shit. If your a busy body like me and dont read everything u often install everything. And I aint the dumbest surfer around :winkwink:

This is done 10x worse than companies who aint yahoo etc.

[QUOTE=will76]I have never done one install or email join in my life and i sent over 18,000 signups to clickcash alone last year.

Nice justification, because you make money doing it, it is ok to do it ? If all adultwebmasters could sling drugs on the corner I am sure they would turn that down and sit in the basement making galleries instead?

moron

We do nothing wrong or illegal. If you dont like the laws....change . Don't bitch to me. I don't make the rules....just play the game.

DH through P2PADS either does installs himself or sells traffic to people who do installs (or both) and claims he only fools with " legal " install companies.

And basically has an attitude fuck you thats what we do, we will do anything legal.

Well technically Zango is legal, so it is very likely that the installs he works with is fucking everyone of us here as well as his other p2p clients that he sells traffic to.

he also will not post the names of the installs he does business for. It most be something reputable like google toolbars, yeah i bet thats it. :1orglaugh

/cliffnotes

You always play this "voice of reason" role and you are dead wrong. If DH listed 5 companies he does installs for I would bet 4 of them do the shit discussed in this thread. Probably the entire 5 though.

[QUOTE=WDjay]
so you are ok with a "legal" installers like zango that over writes the rest of our affiliate codes ?

ROFL

I knew he wouldn't answer the question and name the companies.

What a joke!

He probably went to the library to do a little research of his own. One can only hope. :)

Missie

are these imaginary friends or just chicken shit people too scared to post themselves ??????????? :warning :warning

[QUOTE=will76]I need to be consitant. I am NOT in favor of them and do not push or promote them, but if they are legal...they are legal. If they were hurting my business I wold work hard with my local lawmakers to push the issue. I recomend you do the same. Bitching and whining on GFY wont make them go away. walk the walk.

I seem to remember that you and your ransomware being in 2 legal battles about this... So why don't you STFU slimeball.