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StuartD 10-06-2006 06:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayeff
You are missing the point entirely... and I suspect you realize it. Getting into the specifics of legal/not legal and debating semantics is nothing more than a smokescreen.

You are trying to come up with reasons not to oppose something which can only be damaging to everyone except the person profiting directly from it. That's nonsense from a business point of view and makes your defense personality motivated, not as you claim, the attacks on this kind of practise.
I'm not missing the point. He accused P2Pads of something... without proof. That's a bannable offense on GFY.
All I am offering is a chance for him or anyone to prove those statements.

You guys are the ones putting up the smokescreen of speaking in generalities... how you feel about installs that steal ref codes. That's all well and good. But P2Pads is the only company name in the title. So again, please provide a file to back up this accusation. If I install it and it replaces my ref codes... I will concede that you are all correct.

Missie 10-06-2006 06:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartD
I'm not missing the point. He accused P2Pads of something... without proof. That's a bannable offense on GFY.
All I am offering is a chance for him or anyone to prove those statements.

You guys are the ones putting up the smokescreen of speaking in generalities... how you feel about installs that steal ref codes. That's all well and good. But P2Pads is the only company name in the title. So again, please provide a file to back up this accusation. If I install it and it replaces my ref codes... I will concede that you are all correct.
This is the title of the thread:

"P2PADS will sell traffic for installs. "

Please show me where it says that p2pads installs something on its own site.

Missie

StuartD 10-06-2006 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Missie
Please show me where it says that p2pads installs something on its own site.
Huh?? :eek7

austinth 10-06-2006 07:32 AM
just thought I'd say....





























see sig!!!

Daruma 10-06-2006 07:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5pm
It depends.
Are you a business man
or an amateur LOL!
you have no idea who your talking to :2 cents:

Daruma 10-06-2006 07:53 AM
also DH - you never ever ever answered my question previously

how much of your business - income comes from installs?

I guess your fucked huh...
you say almost nothing - then everyone jumps on you for standing up to this
you say its a pretty good part of your business - then everyone jumps on you for spreading the crap on the toast

jayeff 10-06-2006 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartD
You guys are the ones putting up the smokescreen of speaking in generalities...
With this type of issue, the generalities are what matters: p2pads is just one operator and in the long run of no real significance. Therefore the specifics of what he is doing are of even less significance.

Some people pop up on threads like this, who appear to think everything is fine so long as the person doing something is "cool". They and the majority who avoid such threads are apparently unwilling to confront things which will damage them long-term, even though many plan to be around long enough to be affected. That is just ludicrous.

Magnus 10-06-2006 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Solid Bob
Maybe it hasn't been challenged but there is no chance it is legal even in Canada which is behind the times about 40 years. :2 cents:

LMAO..Come to Toronto then go to NewPort Vermont and report back with your "behind 40 years" findings.

RobbieRye 10-06-2006 08:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daruma
also DH - you never ever ever answered my question previously

how much of your business - income comes from installs?

I guess your fucked huh...
you say almost nothing - then everyone jumps on you for standing up to this
you say its a pretty good part of your business - then everyone jumps on you for spreading the crap on the toast
0%

There are currently no customers that are directing traffic through P2P Ads directly to a software program.

WDjay 10-06-2006 08:22 AM
PREDICTION>>>>>>> Ok, here is how this thing will play out. A couple years from know all the companies everyone is complaining about will STOP doing the things that are making you all so upset. YOU WILL CLAIM VICTORY, shouting from the rooftops. It was your voice that made the change. Truth is that it was the market that changed and you had nothing to do with it. Here is what I can tell you about GTS and other large successful companies. While you complain, they are working on the next generation of products and services. Things nobody is complaining about because they are things nobody has see yet. Then you will complain about those. Its a cycle. There are only a small % of people who inovate. They get rich without breaking laws. They think ahead and use thier time wisley by thinking outside the box. And of course thier will always be the large % who dont. MARK< MAGNUS,,,,,fuck the haters. You'll be building and growing long after they are gone.

Daruma 10-06-2006 08:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbieRye
0%

There are currently no customers that are directing traffic through P2P Ads directly to a software program.
key word = currently
key word = customers

what % in the past?
what % was the maximum?
do you guys push installs on 'left over' traffic so that would not qualify as 'customer'?

if the % is really sooooooo loooooowwwww

then why not just make a policy against it - anounce it and look like heros listening to your customer base?

be realistic about it - the overwelming majority of people in the business are against it

Missie 10-06-2006 08:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDjay
PREDICTION>>>>>>> Ok, here is how this thing will play out. A couple years from know all the companies everyone is complaining about will STOP doing the things that are making you all so upset. YOU WILL CLAIM VICTORY, shouting from the rooftops. It was your voice that made the change. Truth is that it was the market that changed and you had nothing to do with it. Here is what I can tell you about GTS and other large successful companies. While you complain, they are working on the next generation of products and services. Things nobody is complaining about because they are things nobody has see yet. Then you will complain about those. Its a cycle. There are only a small % of people who inovate. They get rich without breaking laws. They think ahead and use thier time wisley by thinking outside the box. And of course thier will always be the large % who dont. MARK< MAGNUS,,,,,fuck the haters. You'll be building and growing long after they are gone.
Looks like not everybody knows how to use the simple tools we have available today. You still have a red X in your signature. I hope future innovations are not that complicated.

Missie

WDjay 10-06-2006 08:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Missie
Looks like not everybody knows how to use the simple tools we have available today. You still have a red X in your signature. I hope future innovations are not that complicated.

Missie
Thanks for the heads up. I'll change it now. See, look at Missie. We can disagree and she's still looking out for best intrest. Way to be a team player. :winkwink:

5pm 10-06-2006 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daruma
you have no idea who your talking to :2 cents:

I think you missed the sarcasm in my post.

I know exactly who I'm talking to, and was agreeing with him 100%.

Quickdraw 10-06-2006 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDjay
MARK< MAGNUS,,,,,fuck the haters.
I doubt this thread would have ever been started if DrinkingHard hadn't told will76 to mind his own business in a thread about affiliate codes(commissions) blatantly being stolen.
Why would DrinkingHard support that? If anything he gave a negative impression about the type of installs he is doing.
He says he is not promoting zango in this thread, but his buddies are, or at the very least were, and doing a 'fair amount of installs' if I remember the thread right.

P.S. -- Do you really think you supporting him gives any credibility, given the kind of software you 'sell'?

jayeff 10-06-2006 08:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDjay
There are only a small % of people who inovate.
That is about the only true thing you wrote.

It is much easier and more profitable to squeeze a restaurant owner for protection money than to run a restaurant. Does that make the guy running a protection racket smart and therefore the restaurant owners should approve of him, regretting their own stupidity in working harder for less money.

According to your argument that is exactly how they should feel. You may deny that and say we are not discussing things which are illegal, but the point is exactly the same. An industry consists of businesses which exist to create and serve a customer base. It attracts people who provide products and services to help the industry function (better). And unfortunately it also attracts predators: those who provide nothing whatever except a way for themselves to make money from other peoples' labor, passing on a few crumbs to those who help them. The practical effect is exactly the same, whether their activities are legal or not.

WDjay 10-06-2006 08:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quickdraw
I doubt this thread would have ever been started if DrinkingHard hadn't told will76 to mind his own business in a thread about affiliate codes(commissions) blatantly being stolen.
Why would DrinkingHard support that? If anything he gave a negative impression about the type of installs he is doing.
He says he is not promoting zango in this thread, but his buddies are, or at the very least were, and doing a 'fair amount of installs' if I remember the thread right.

P.S. -- Do you really think you supporting him gives any credibility, given the kind of software you 'sell'?
If want to quote me, feel free. But quote the whole post.

NEW SIG FOR THE DAY< NO REF CODE!!!!! WHAT A DEAL.

Quickdraw 10-06-2006 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDjay
If want to quote me, feel free. But quote the whole post.
No need to quote all of your bs

DarkJedi 10-06-2006 08:49 AM
lol what a clusterfuck

5pm 10-06-2006 08:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDjay
If want to quote me, feel free. But quote the whole post.

NEW SIG FOR THE DAY< NO REF CODE!!!!! WHAT A DEAL.
no link either smarty pants.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

WDjay 10-06-2006 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 5pm
no link either smarty pants.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
intentional, the sig is a joke to Missie. :thumbsup

Magnus 10-06-2006 09:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDjay
If want to quote me, feel free. But quote the whole post.

NEW SIG FOR THE DAY< NO REF CODE!!!!! WHAT A DEAL.
Jay we need Duncan here.. he would make things right!! LOL

WDjay 10-06-2006 09:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnus
Jay we need Duncan here.. he would make things right!! LOL
http://backecto22.tripod.com/puke.jpg

VIVA DUNCAN, VIVA DUNCAN

Daruma 10-06-2006 09:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daruma
key word = currently
key word = customers

what % in the past?
what % was the maximum?
do you guys push installs on 'left over' traffic so that would not qualify as 'customer'?

if the % is really sooooooo loooooowwwww

then why not just make a policy against it - anounce it and look like heros listening to your customer base?

be realistic about it - the overwelming majority of people in the business are against it
any response?

Daruma 10-06-2006 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDjay
http://backecto22.tripod.com/puke.jpg

VIVA DUNCAN, VIVA DUNCAN
nice image

Magnus 10-06-2006 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDjay
http://backecto22.tripod.com/puke.jpg

VIVA DUNCAN, VIVA DUNCAN
Duncan quote:
"That strip club waitress is not getting me the free drinks I deserve"

Young 10-06-2006 09:28 AM
LMAO@ "Legal Installs" .... 99% of the people who install them usually don't know or are too stupid to know what the fuck they're doing. The TOS and install Agreements are usually tucked away in some obscure place.

wedouglas 10-06-2006 09:53 AM
I have never heard of anyone wanting adware. You are just fucking people without them knowing. Most people who get adware installed, don't even know it.

I'd say this definately tarnished someones reputation.

Sosa 10-06-2006 09:55 AM
classic gfy thread

Huggles 10-06-2006 09:56 AM
WDjay does installs?



Another person added to the shit list.

detoxed 10-06-2006 10:17 AM
Wow the response from companies involved in this thread has been nothing more than unprofessional after reading 1 page.

Phil 10-06-2006 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST
Yep we sell traffic to companies that do legitimate LEGAL installs.

If you don't like that, then take your business somewhere else..

DH
Nigga please..Legal installs??!! ha-ha.. like 800solutions?

Daruma 10-06-2006 10:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daruma
key word = currently
key word = customers

what % in the past?
what % was the maximum?
do you guys push installs on 'left over' traffic so that would not qualify as 'customer'?

if the % is really sooooooo loooooowwwww

then why not just make a policy against it - anounce it and look like heros listening to your customer base?

be realistic about it - the overwelming majority of people in the business are against it
answers...

StuartD 10-06-2006 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wedouglas
I have never heard of anyone wanting adware.
Really? Never wanted ICQ? How about Quicktime? Real Audio?

Huggles 10-06-2006 10:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartD
Really? Never wanted ICQ? How about Quicktime? Real Audio?


I want to punch the people at Real Audio.

StuartD 10-06-2006 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huggles
I want to punch the people at Real Audio.
Yeah, you want to punch a lot of people. Somehow it doesn't surprise me.

BobG 10-06-2006 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnus
Duncan quote:
"That strip club waitress is not getting me the free drinks I deserve"

Hahaha. Thats funny, that actually is an exact quote.

xxxice 10-06-2006 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Worldsex
Dh,
I don't think you can put everything under the 'it is legal, so I don't have a problem with it' umbrella. Sometimes the laws hasn't adjusted to the new situations yet.

Molesting a horse is legal in Holland, because the laws haven't been adjusted yet.....so if you could make money with it, would you do it? and what if it was big money?
You can always make money on something, and if there is enough money to be made, why focus then on something which is obviously so bad for our (and any other) industry. Because others are doing it otherwise? a lame excuse if you ask me.

Why don't you just say: Guys, you're right. I will stop with any form of install, I will focus on selling my traffic to others instead of their questionable stuff and probably make the same amount of money with most likely a bit more work..but fuck it! I make enough already.

But well, for some reason I don't see that happening, I would love to, but well.......one can dream right?!

I still love you Mark and I have a lot of respect for you what you have accomplished in just a few years, I just don't agree with you on this one as you know ;) And this post doesn't only apply to you, but also to many others.
Pierre
:) :) :)

wedouglas 10-06-2006 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartD
Really? Never wanted ICQ? How about Quicktime? Real Audio?
1. ICQ is a piece of shit. I use GAIM.
2. I can't even think of the last time I used Real Player. I don't even think it is installed.
3. I have never seen any advertisements when I play quicktime file. NEVER.

Also, I said "wanted."

Are you telling me you want your programs with ads in them?

GTS Mark 10-06-2006 01:10 PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Will76, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for Earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our adware distribution abilities will NOT stop us from keeping adware forever trapped in your pitiful computers. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save sales from adware will fail! Hail Zango!!!

-- DH and Robbie Rye, servants of the dark lord Zango

DH

P.S. If no one gets this, it's the response that Trey and Matt from Southpark had for Tom Cruise LOL!


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