It's refreshing to see such professionalism.

It's would be funnier if you didn't leave that P.S.

Anyways guys, Wiredguy is here and we are off to the cottage for the weekend. Sorry if I don't respond until then :)

Have a nice weekend everyone

DH

Believe it or not, yes... there are a couple of people out there who have downloaded ICQ. One or two have downloaded Real Audio as well.
I even use Eudora at home. It has an ad in the bottom corner.

I know it'll come to you as a shock, but not everyone wants to pay for the programs they download. Sometimes, they'd rather it just work and be free.

Therefore, the companies combat this buy selling advertising within the program itself to compensate for lack of revenue while handing it out for free.

It's called being in business.

[QUOTE=DrinkingHARDEST]Hey Will76, why don't you tell me your sponsors, how much money you're making, where you live, where your office is located (if not out of your mom's basement LOL). I'm also going to need your last 3 years tax returns, "

Dude...this tax returns IRS stuff.....this takes me back in time... to a place long ago. A shame I only get to reply to this.... 8 pages later lol.

:winkwink:

Check it out, i will tell you guy how installs work.

First a company comes in all legit. People use them, no problem.

They can change the code at any time. Meaning they are legit in the begining and months later they can change refs do bad stuff ext.

I learned about this recently and am removing all install bs from my site, eventhough they are legit.

Is that how ALL installs work? So when I installed Glyph from Gamehouse Games, I basically screwed any chance of ever seeing a proper ref code again?

Im not saying all, obviously. If they wanted to change the code later on they can. Lets say at first you get one popup a day, months later they can change that to five, thats what im saying. It is possible, no?

Just like a TOS, you can change it at anytime.

"they get rich without breaking laws" -yes because they rely on the fact that laws are very slow to catch up with technology and by the time they have they have moved on to the next future illegal thing. and the truth is laws will force markets to change, eventually. people will always do this, its a good way to make money but just call it like it is.

DH, im gonna hit you up on icq.
i will tell you how i feel man to man.

duke

Did this person on icq hear a gigantic "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHH" when he read will's initial post? Whoever the genius is that said that has completely missed the point of will's post :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

viva la GTS!!!

fucker..lol

I don't recall any ICQ messages from you can you send again ?

o'really ? If you can find where i accused them of something with out proof then please do link to it so i can be banned.

Do you agree or not agree if the person who owns the company says something, it is ok to take it as proof ?

Alrighty then.... off to the eye doctor now. I think this thread gave me cataracts. :helpme

Bump :) :)

Problem with adware installs, is that the third party e.g. P2pads who distribute can never know for sure there's no affiliate code hacking, or other malicious code. Sure you can do a bit of testing, but there's always ways the coder can coneal these things. Basically, you have to take the vendors words on it.

Some people can take the principled position and just say "no, there's plenty of business, installs are something I can AFFORD to stay away from" or you can look at the big $$ the installer will offer.

yeap and taking the word of an installer company is very credible :winkwink:

You remember the Webmaster Direct threads where they were accused of ransomeware?

That would be the WD in WDjay.

its funny how some low moral shitstaints call themselfs innovators, lol.

You can say that again

i second that....

Will, I just sent you an ICQ.

Missie

Bill Gates stole all of his ideas and innovated how we use computers today.

But that's neither here nor there, is it?

neither here or there.

Stuart if you didn't work for p2pads, honeslty would you be responding in these threads the way you have been doing. Stuart, are you an affiliate of any company and make affiliate sales. Just curious what you do.

Does it matter? It really doesn't matter who I work for or what I do.
I can respect that you hate what these spyware programs and companies do.

But your hate towards them is quite unfocused and just generally off the wall. You go after anyone and everyone who doesn't profess their undying devotion to the anti-spyware crusade even if they are themselves a victim. What the hell does your thread to Lars prove? Neither cams.com nor sexsearch.com are at fault and yet you name them with screenshots and blast them as if they are creating the spyware themselves.

Your entire approach is simply wrong.

If a program doesn't post here, and they don't announce that they do not support spyware, you just automatically assume that they do. And if a program does support adware, you automatically assume that they support spyware as well.

Not only that, but you automatically assume that if the word spyware has ever crossed someone's lips, that they must be writing little zango mods right now.

You really need to step back, analyze just what it is that's going on and find a new approach. If you hate that one specific spyware company so badly, use your billions to shut them down. Don't make thread after thread after thread about how some popup appeared after you purposed infected yourself with spyware.

If you need to hate someone for supporting installs, then hate me all you want. Because I happen to think that ICQ's install is awesome. Especially where it pops up stuff as soon as you start it, and how it puts little ads into the message windows. That adware rocks!

By the way, good job getting people to post about how they don't support spyware.
I'm sure someone who does support spyware would never ever post saying that they don't. I mean, they're thieves and cheaters and scammers. Not liars. Right?

I'm wondering how you can believe it is likely to be productive to keep attempting to convince people who use ICQ every day that the (small) banners displayed on ICQ and similar adware equate to the practises of scumware.

Your other misdirections are only slightly less transparent: if people can visit the board to promote their latest competition or whatever, why should it be too much to expect them to spend a minute expressing their opposition to scumware? This is an issue which has no middle ground and as Edmund Burke said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".

This particularly applies to some of the sponsors which have been named in this thread. What has been demonstrated here doesn't make it clear who is guilty of something, who may have been a victim or have been taken advantage of by an unscrupulous affiliate. Speaking for myself, I kept an open mind when the threads were started, but I can think of only one reason why there is still no input from several of them. Face it, "they are not responding, so they must be innocent" is not going to be a very common reaction to their silence.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

wait one more.... :1orglaugh

three-fiddy

Yes it does matter what you do, if you are not an affiliate and don't generate affiliate sales I wouldn't expect you to understand especially since you work for a company that sells traffic to people who do installs.

StuartD, I am "going after" people for answers. The orginal post were very open and subtle. No one replied. Everyone told me they know about it, they allow it, they don't care. My next wave of post mentioned some names to please just simply tell us " yes " or "no". that's it. If you want to lie and say no then say no. It has been documented that spyware like zango is hijacking sales and traffic. These sponsors have their domain names being bid on zango. If they don't support it then I will help them police it and start reporting affiliate accounts to them. If they do support it then i would like to know so i don't waste my time sending them affiliate id's. So after all of these post, and 100's of others waiting for answers, i then started *showing* people examples of what was happening. Is there anythign wrong with showing them through screen shots? Now I am posting videos and showing affiliates where they are losing sales. Still no answers...


I have not accused any of these companies for not replying to my post,and the post of others... but it does make them look bad that they wont reply. Why do you suppose they wont reply. What do you think, you seem to have this all figured out.

Since you have sooo much to say on this matter and want to voice your opinion on what I am doing wrong with my approach will you please educate me and tell me what a better approach would be? help me out here, since you knocking my approach surely you have an approach that would work better.

http://gallery.uwcs.co.uk/albums/funny/spyware.png

Holy Shit! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Hey I see StuartD finally shut the hell up.

He was away for Thanksgiving, and then he's preparing for his wedding next week. I'm sure he'll fit some posts in for your amusement. (Hi Stu).

Thanks, yes... I've been on the road for most of the weekend preparing for real life. Not for anti-spyware avenger crusades.

But hey will76, you're right... I'll shut up about it. For a year or so. Then I'll return and post about how all of these spyware programs are still around. Keep up the good fight though, I can't wait to ask you why you weren't able to win the war on terror.. err... spyware. :glugglug

No more responses what happened ?

this one deserves some bumpage

bump for StaurtD. what an asshole.

Stuart's contribution to spyware, he will wait a year and then laugh at us if the spyware companies are still around.