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MikeSmoke 02-25-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 11971835)
Remember global freezing in the 70s? The Earth has a weather pattern too. Just because we do not understand it doesnt mean its global warming caused by man.

Exactly - in the mid 70's there was a *panic* about it.
Pollution is bad, m'kay? No one is arguing that.
But scientists in each generation *think* they know enough to be able to provide complete and exact answers and predictions about global events - and 25 years later, when science has advanced, much of what they've *known* turns out to be based on the outdated or incomplete science of their day. Al Gore's forthcoming Oscar has nothing to do with that.

I just hope everyone in western New York has dug out from their 3-4 feet of global warming :1orglaugh

websiex 02-25-2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 11971852)
I can't find the site with the numbers, and on a general scale volcanic gasses are only contributing a limited amount of co2 and so2 into the atmosphere. However, ONE major supervolcanoe errupting can spew enough gasses into the atmosphere to cause a global "nuclear winter" and it would happen in a matter of hours or days. There is nothing short of nuclear war that humans could do that would contribute that much in that short a timespan. As it stands, we are adding more than volcanoes, but that goes without saying. ONE major volcanic erruption on the scale of vulcanism as it was even hundreds of thousands of years ago would have much more drastic effects. The most important point I was making, however, was that humans are NOT the cause, simply a contributor in a negative way to the overall cycle. We can speed up the process (to a VERY limited extent), but eventally planet earth will find it's temperature cap, and the trend will go colder, not hotter. Remember, the earth is a closed system, these processes have been going on since long before man was here, and they will continue when we are gone.

There are a lot more factors involved than just carbon dioxide in global warming.. This site has a crash course on causes of climate change:
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7y.html

Water vapor is more of a contributor to global warming than even carbon dioxide, and this isn't something we can't neccessarily control. In fact, scientists are happy to state that water vapor is the NUMBER ONE "greenhouse gas" and the one that really gets the rest of the ball rolling.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...0_warming.html
http://www.nov55.com/ntyg.html
http://www.john-daly.com/artifact.htm


I say again, we should be doing what we can to stop pollution, but to stay that humans are the sole cause of it and to fool people into thinking they can make the process stop happening is ridiculous. We can stop pollution tomorrow and the cycle will still happen, maybe a little more slowly (by a year or two?), but it is inevitable. I don't believe in lying to people to make them do what you want them to... Governments and religion do it all the time. Wouldn't it be nice though, to live in a world where people told you the REAL problems instead of the ones they want to manipulate you with? :)

Ok. Most people agree that humans aren't the sole cause of global warming, and Al Gore's movie didn't say humans were the sole cause. The movie said that humans are contributing - a lot, which is possible.

And the volcano thing... yes, one volcano can mess things up, but it hasn't happened recently. I don't know if you meant a super-volcano when you made your industrial age comment, so I won't assume. What I was concerned with is if you meant 'any' volcanic eruption.

SleazyDream 02-25-2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11971364)
What does the pentagon have to do with the man-made global warming myth?


if you honestly think global warming is a myth then you need to go back to sitting under george bushs desk and put his dick back in your mouth :2 cents:

AmigoPorn 02-25-2007 02:57 PM

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There will be grave problems ahead if everybody emits greenhouse gases at the rate at which Americans have been doing so. The good news is that this is, by now, almost universally recognized, except in some quarters in Washington; but the adjustments in lifestyles will not be easy.
This is from Making Globalization Work by Nobel Prize-winning author Joseph Stiglitz.

Splum 02-25-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11972334)
if you honestly think global warming is a myth then you need to go back to sitting under george bushs desk and put his dick back in your mouth :2 cents:

Dude several times in this thread I said global warming is real what the fuck drug are you on today?

RawAlex 02-25-2007 03:15 PM

As a side note, I can find any number of people to say that the holocaust never happened, that Fidel Castro is a great economist, and that Saddam Hussein was a nice guy that never hurt anyone.

Of course, none of those things are true. But someone would say them, and some people even have the balls to write reports about them.


A "report" doesn't make things true, it just means someone was stupid enough to think it.

Xplicit 02-25-2007 04:07 PM

I don't like Gore.

I hate greenpeace environmental hippies.

But, I do think this global warming shit is real. Whats happening now is a propaganda war, backed by oil company lobbiests

FreeOnes 02-25-2007 04:48 PM

I just stepped outside and feel that Al Gore is right.
How difficult can it be? How much warmer should it get before you are convinced?

Splum 02-25-2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeOnes (Post 11972823)
I just stepped outside and feel that Al Gore is right. How difficult can it be? How much warmer should it get before you are convinced?

Lol right now here in North America its about 10 degrees fahrenheit right now, and if you base your judgement on the current temperature outside Im afraid thats a bit silly.

Linkster 02-25-2007 05:35 PM

The nice thing about this whole argument (politics and BS "fact citings" aside) is that in 17 years it wont make a difference in the scheme of things - when the world runs totally out of oil - the wars and power mongering that will go on then will completely wipe out the humans faster than any change in global temperatures could in that time frame.
Im glad I wont be around to experience that time - the full life dependence that so many people in this world have put on oil is the part thats scary - and I hate to think what a world population will look like without planes, cars and semis - but then maybe its more important to go shut down another nuke plant so that the Iranians cant have any electrical power to live on :thumbsup

AmigoPorn 02-25-2007 05:39 PM

Global warming is not based on local temperatures, rather, it is based on the overall global climate conditions compared with historical data.

Chris Corn 02-25-2007 05:47 PM

Canada would do very well to experience an increase of temperature. We can move up and use our full Country....finally. So what's the problem, I mean really?

kicks 02-25-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11971554)
There is a thin line between perceived exaggerated truth and factual logical truth. Just ask the Bush administration.


last place to look for truth about anything is the bush administration
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

HeadPimp 02-25-2007 06:16 PM

Change happens, end of story! The fact is that no matter how much information you have or studies you do, no one is be able to predict what exactly will happen with a system as complex as the Earth's climate.

Does the government play a role in BSing us? Sure! That is what governments do. As for listening to what scientists think, or studies say; I would suggest taking them with as much credibility as an informative post on this board!

Diligent 02-25-2007 07:03 PM

Whatever regarding the political and economical aspects around it...

As long as we can have hydrogen and solar power trimmed close to
perfection, we can avoid further environmental disasters...

Imagine the developing parts of the world scaling UP on their use
of fossil fuels...
We need to be able to "lead the way" for them, by making sure
they can afford the technology rather than resorting to fossil fuels.


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