Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12627068)

That's pretty nice Digi .. I'll check it out (i call you Digi because i feel like we are on a first name basis .. :1orglaugh )

A little placement whoring never hurts .. everyone go checkout www.satancash.com .. we have a new girl launching in a few days :winkwink:

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 12627074)

i got hit by the 35 second rule congrats mikey


fucking atlantis fucked me over i hate that place

Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12627026)

Its not just about the rider for the show and even being friends with juicy i couldn't tell you fully what happen here. what i can tell you is that believe it or not Juicy gets paid good money to promote all types of products. sometimes he does it in ways that you don't even realize he's doing it. that Rider is not that far off from other deals I've seen him get to attend shows or fly out to talk to someone about promoting things. I've seen him do deals with first class flights, Hotel rooms covered plus 3 months of really good money to promote something. I know for a fact that he makes more in one month promoting ( mostly by posting) then most part timers in the biz make in a year.

The bottom line is that people think he posts a bunch of BS but he gets results. people get a real return on what they pay him or they wouldn't sign 6 month and one year contracts for upper 4 figures a month with him.

There's only two reasons i attended this show last year. One is Juicy and the other is Steve Bugbee. they both asked me to attend and i gave it a shot. it was a great show and I'll be there this year to see how it evolved . I like both parties involved Juicy and Xbiz .. I'll give an honest report on my return :)

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 12627139)

That's all fine and dandy but I come from mainstream. We worry about profitability, not popularity. Someone wants to pay outrageous fees for what is like a robot posting on a message board, that's fine. It's not my business. I just don't want to do business with them. That's an unknown variable.

If anyone we do business with cave's because of someone who has a 100,000 plus posts on a message board, the traffic is gone. You don't do business with people like that. You can't rely on them. They're relying on exposure or the whims of someone who lives on a message board, not numbers.

I don't care about self proclaimed internet celebrities or them getting comp's for their friends. I care about margins. I'm sorry, that's business.

That is nothing personal against you.

Take care,
Phil

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12627162)

there are HUNDREDS of paid forum posting services in mainstream...I have used them TONS

and if I was to see them at a mainstream convention I would buy them dinner

how is what juicy does any different?

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 12627113)

Damn Plato myths :winkwink:

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 12627214)

all good not even zeus himself could keep me from 200:winkwink::1orglaugh

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 12627220)

What about 14K?

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 12627228)

don't really feel that's worthy of saving...15k will be fine for that.... but i will see if i can hit 200 with 14k and get a double word score:pimp

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 12627179)

Which one of these outsourced services require first class flights and per diem pay for themselves and their friends? I was under the strange assumption, you pay .10 per post? Apparently, you know something else?

Which net conventions have you been to? (Non adult). We might have met.

Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12627026)

Its not just about the rider for the show and even being friends with juicy i couldn't tell you fully what happen here. what i can tell you is that believe it or not Juicy gets paid good money to promote all types of products. sometimes he does it in ways that you don't even realize he's doing it. that Rider is not that far off from other deals I've seen him get to attend shows or fly out to talk to someone about promoting things. I've seen him do deals with first class flights, Hotel rooms covered plus 3 months of really good money to promote something. I know for a fact that he makes more in one month promoting ( mostly by posting) then most part timers in the biz make in a year.

The bottom line is that people think he posts a bunch of BS but he gets results. people get a real return on what they pay him or they wouldn't sign 6 month and one year contracts for upper 4 figures a month with him.

There's only two reasons i attended this show last year. One is Juicy and the other is Steve Bugbee. they both asked me to attend and i gave it a shot. it was a great show and I'll be there this year to see how it evolved . I like both parties involved Juicy and Xbiz .. I'll give an honest report on my return :)

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 12627271)

Timeout for Mind Freak?

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 12627179)

Which one of these outsourced services require first class flights and per diem pay for themselves and their friends? I was under the strange assumption, you pay .10 per post? Apparently, you know something else?

Which net conventions have you been to? (Non adult). We might have met.

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 12627238)

Hello? In my previous life as a media buyer, I've been to most non adult web gatherings.

If you've been to one in the past four years, I'm sure we've met or at least exchanged cards. I was a business card fanatic.

Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 12627239)

Very nice post. :) I am assuming that Juicy knows exactly what he is doing (looking like a total fool, with melt downs every other day on this bb) and gains results with whatever contract he accepts!

I hope it works for the masses, but I never signed up with your program, just because Juicy was your 'buddy', and a lot of other programs that Juicy befriended or got paid for.

BTW, I am no big fish but :upsidedow

Originally Posted by JMan (Post 12625241)

Awe man, in the good old days we would of had a pistol fight.

Serge... where are you ??????

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 12627139)

That's all fine and dandy but I come from mainstream. We worry about profitability, not popularity. Someone wants to pay outrageous fees for what is like a robot posting on a message board, that's fine. It's not my business. I just don't want to do business with them. That's an unknown variable.

If anyone we do business with cave's because of someone who has a 100,000 plus posts on a message board, the traffic is gone. You don't do business with people like that. You can't rely on them. They're relying on exposure or the whims of someone who lives on a message board, not numbers.

I don't care about self proclaimed internet celebrities or them getting comp's for their friends. I care about margins. I'm sorry, that's business.

That is nothing personal against you.

Take care,
Phil

Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12627455)

I come from mainstream also and juicy produces guys that produce profit. I don't think he is expecting people to stop doing biz with Xbiz just based on him not going to a show. I think he was making an effort to expose a deal that he thinks he got fucked on. I know that when I'm about to make a deal with someone i consider whether or not I've heard good or bad things about them.

Its always about profit and believe me I know. I've owned two Publicly traded companies and sold them both for great profits. Again Juicy wouldn't get the Money he does to market if guys weren't making a return off it. He does a lot more then post for companies and also owns a pretty successful mainstream company himself.

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12627484)

hehe Mike dont worry about these litttle trolls , you know me you know what i do heheh doesnt matter what these peeps think

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 12627179)

Which one of these outsourced services require first class flights and per diem pay for themselves and their friends? I was under the strange assumption, you pay .10 per post? Apparently, you know something else?

Which net conventions have you been to? (Non adult). We might have met.

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 12627238)

Hello? In my previous life as a media buyer, I've been to most non adult web gatherings.

If you've been to one in the past four years, I'm sure we've met or at least exchanged cards. I was a business card fanatic.

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 12627454)

this piss doesnt even come close to measuring up to the pisses of Serge and r-n back on netpond in the day

hell this piss doesnt even match the pisses Serge an I had back then

BTW he is off drinking very good wine and enjoying retirement. Had dinner with him last night

He was the KING of piss

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 12627479)

every show is uplifted by Juicys attendance. when you walk into a party or venue and see him, you know you are in for a good time and memories will be made.

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 12627682)

shit my impulse for 50's made me forget bout my abstinence goal i fucked up my yatzee shot :mad:

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 12627756)

:( :helpme :321GFY :pimp

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 12627875)

nothing new that requires a post - i'm out.

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 12627878)

you can at least post to help me get to my goal of the 200 spot:mad:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12627886)

I am installing control panels, will try to come over and help while I am waiting for completion of software install

Originally Posted by jennym (Post 12627628)

I wonder how much he will be worth when people realize those "memories" will be shouted from the highest building when he gets pissy or runs out of xanax?? Seems that is THE MOST unprofessional thing I have seen around here in a long fucking time.

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 12627898)

thats the spirit:)

Originally Posted by jennym (Post 12627905)

just quoting this to bump for the damn rabbit:winkwink:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12627914)

this will probably be the last as I have to set up nameservers now, and that takes some concentration