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woj 07-07-2008 08:47 AM

1 in 50 ratio!

AK 07-07-2008 09:34 AM

nice stats!

1BB 07-07-2008 10:59 AM

Nice stats man!

Cherry7 07-07-2008 03:23 PM

From our experience it confirms our thoughts to say that racios have NO meaning as it goes from
1:17606 to 1/46 ...

That targeted quality traffic converts well (from good review sites) and poor traffic ...from galleries and link farms poorly....

Does the millions of non productive hits give you advantages in site rankings and search engines hits ? or is it just a waste of band width?

gleem 07-07-2008 05:15 PM

wow nice stats, can I borrow a couple of those affiliates?

xxxdesign-net 07-07-2008 05:21 PM

Maybe you missed my post... why no more updates on Darering?

Boobzooka 07-07-2008 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 14433155)
Maybe you missed my post... why no more updates on Darering?

I couldn't produce games fast enough to chase rebills.

We live in a small town (Eugene, Oregon) and it took a couple years just to get the games we have up now, even reusing a lot of the same players in different games. There was no way I could do weekly, or even monthly, updates. No matter where I advertised or how much I offered.

Combine that with the fact that for some reason on that site selling non-recurring billing resulted in 200% more signups ... it just wasn't cost-effective to keep trying. It's passed the point that adding new games to the tour doesn't increase conversions. It's making more now than ever, despite no updates in over a year.

I cannot understate the difficulty of trying to organize one of these events. I'd run ads in every local paper and post on craigslist. I'd field dozens of calls and emails everyday, not to mention the drunks in the middle of the night. We also offered referral bonuses to try and get people taking to their friends about it.

Of those who agreed to meet for an interview, only a few actually show up. My wife and I would spend hours each week sitting alone at restaurants or coffee shops waiting for people who don't have the courtesy to tell us they've changed their minds ... Then when I call them to find out why, it always turns out their car broke down or they got in an accident. If this were true, then we must be cursed and if you agree to meet us you have approximately a 50/50 chance of crashing on the way there. I'd try to schedule several interviews at the same time, just hoping to meet someone, anyone.

Assuming somebody does show up, and they're not obviously on meth (another big eliminator and waste of time), then we get the paperwork signed and copys of IDs etc and try to work out when they'll be available to play.

Getting six peoples schedules to match is a near impossibility. If only they didn't have to work, go out of town, have concert tickets, etc ... and money isn't as big of a motivator as you'd think it would be.

Here's the really shitty part. After all this, after I've got all the players confirmed and re-confirmed, it's game-night and we've decorated and we're supposed to start at 10pm ... but it's now 11pm and half the players aren't there yet. No calls, the missing people aren't picking up their cells, nothing. And I've got three or four people who've given up their Saturday night (maybe switched shifts, called in sick, skipped a social engagement) and they are expecting to play and might be relying on that check and now they're going home disappointed ... I would say only half the games we planned ever happened. I'd never know for sure until the point where I actually hit the record button.

It was stressful, it stopped being fun, the time invested wasn't worth the fractional increase in revenue, and so I decided to do something different. Which turned out to be a good decision, now that SellYourSexTape has exploded in popularity.

Boobzooka 07-07-2008 06:52 PM

I think this chart says it all.

http://www.daringpress.com/alexa.jpg

NinjaSteve 07-07-2008 10:36 PM

Looks pretty sweet! This is the first time I've heard of your program so I just signed up.

INever 07-07-2008 10:43 PM

That's one fucking instructive post and chart.

:rasta

andrej_NDC 07-09-2008 01:58 PM

Congrats. :)

btw those alexa stats are for both, the paysite and the galleries. If it was just the site, you would be big. :)

Dirty F 07-09-2008 02:00 PM

I just started to send some traffic.

Dirty F 07-09-2008 02:01 PM

Btw whats the deal with the 2k for a tape? Its hard to believe you pay everyone who sends in a home tape 2k.

wetkendra 07-09-2008 02:15 PM

im new here...but if ur smart enough to produce such good numbers then i would think you would be smart enough to not tell everyone how well your niche is doing...again im new here and maybe i just dont get it.

Mister E 07-09-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14427626)
While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks.

http://www.daringpress.com/newstats.jpg

Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off.
These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com

VERY impressive. This is great to see, checking you out now my friend.

wetkendra 07-09-2008 03:36 PM

but theres no doubt that your numbers are awesome and the idea pretty original. nice job!

pornguy 07-09-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14427732)
Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

Robbie what he means is that a lot of sites out there sell a membership, and inside is nothing but upsells etc, and that no way to do it any more.

biskoppen 07-09-2008 03:52 PM

I hope you enjoyed the 4k of sales we sent you :pimp

http://www.signuprightnow.com/misc/darering.gif

Dirty F 07-09-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 14441902)
I hope you enjoyed the 4k of sales we sent you :pimp

http://www.signuprightnow.com/misc/darering.gif

Yikes :pimp

Boobzooka 07-09-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14441338)
Btw whats the deal with the 2k for a tape? Its hard to believe you pay everyone who sends in a home tape 2k.

I'd pay that every day if I could get that many submissions. I made a post here earlier offering $1000 to anyone who simply referred a couple we accepted. No takers yet. It doesn't seem to matter how much money I offer if people lack the motivation to take it. I figured I'd be drowning in submissions by now, but nope. Beats me why so many girls will let a stranger ram her up the ass for a few hundred bucks, but lacks the entrepreneurial spirit to shoot some videos at home with someone she loves for $2K ....

Boobzooka 07-09-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 14441902)
I hope you enjoyed the 4k of sales we sent you :pimp

http://www.signuprightnow.com/misc/darering.gif

When all I knew about TGPs was what I read on GFY, you proved the "good old days" aren't over yet. Thank you for having faith in this noobs silly ideas, and being brave enough to risk a lot of money on something different.

Dirty F 07-09-2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14442208)
I'd pay that every day if I could get that many submissions. I made a post here earlier offering $1000 to anyone who simply referred a couple we accepted. No takers yet. It doesn't seem to matter how much money I offer if people lack the motivation to take it. I figured I'd be drowning in submissions by now, but nope. Beats me why so many girls will let a stranger ram her up the ass for a few hundred bucks, but lacks the entrepreneurial spirit to shoot some videos at home with someone she loves for $2K ....

Damn, that surprises me. How odd.

beta-tester 07-09-2008 05:58 PM

amazing idea definitely, nothing strange here ;)

Congrats, very impressing numbers!

Robbie 07-09-2008 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wetkendra (Post 14441404)
im new here...but if ur smart enough to produce such good numbers then i would think you would be smart enough to not tell everyone how well your niche is doing...again im new here and maybe i just dont get it.

Just because somebody copies something doesn't mean it's gonna do as well as the original. Matter of fact it almost never does. A successful site is one that the person who created it has a passion for that niche. Then you have to take into account shooting styles, editing styles, creativity, etc.

Copying something doesn't mean you're gonna be able to pull off the same thing. I can teach you to play the same chords as the Beatles did and use the same words and you won't be able to write songs like they could.

What he did by posting here is get a lot of people interested in promoting him. I know I'm interested in it now and I had never heard of him before.

datatank 07-09-2008 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14442425)
Just because somebody copies something doesn't mean it's gonna do as well as the original. Matter of fact it almost never does. A successful site is one that the person who created it has a passion for that niche. Then you have to take into account shooting styles, editing styles, creativity, etc.

Copying something doesn't mean you're gonna be able to pull off the same thing. I can teach you to play the same chords as the Beatles did and use the same words and you won't be able to write songs like they could.

What he did by posting here is get a lot of people interested in promoting him. I know I'm interested in it now and I had never heard of him before.

ya just like friendster and yahoo

datatank 07-09-2008 10:51 PM

http://i38.tinypic.com/eamtsm.jpg

I should have pushed you way harder. I do not think I have a sponsor with better overall first earnings per click

Boobzooka 07-10-2008 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 14443279)
http://i38.tinypic.com/eamtsm.jpg

I should have pushed you way harder. I do not think I have a sponsor with better overall first earnings per click

Well now this thread is making me blush ...:wetkiss

Paul Markham 07-10-2008 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14443622)
Well now this thread is making me blush ...:wetkiss

Don't blush except with pride. I only saw your promos on the tour and was very impressed. Your site stands out above so many others. Well done. :thumbsup

Now I have to think about how I need to step up and shoot something with some imagination. :1orglaugh

Serious-Partner 07-10-2008 06:02 AM

Wow! Great results guys... good luck!


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