Eyes aren't no DIM MAK SHIT everyones got them adn some peopkle go for them. OK.
Hell before AIDS was around I bit a guys throat out in a fight, he was gonna win up 'till then. (I'd let him beat my ass nowadays....)

Kimbo just got his ass beat by a guy who weighed 30lbs less than he does.

How many years did you get for biting a guys throat out?

Eyes are illegal in MMA and that's why, you can't hit what you can't see. (Although if you had a hold of them you may be able to submit themby feel. Hummmmmmm

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They weren't in the first couple of years, and NOBODY got their eyes poked out. The eye-poking thing is ridiculous, as is just about every other thing associated with KF.

For the ninjas talking about how the style doesn't matter, there's a reason ALL MMA guys know BJJ, at least well enough to stop it. There's a reason ALL mma guys know some boxing or MT, and there's a reason most of them know some wrestling too. Styles matter. There is a world of difference between KF and BJJ, and if you can't see that difference you need to step into your nearest BJJ school, they will show you.

You'd be amazed how easy it is to turn your head a fraction of an inch when someone is pawing at your eyes. In fact, you don't even have to try. It's instinct and happens faster than thought.

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My style is called go ape shit and fuck all fears.

Take a shot, and just go fucking nuts, go for the throat, eyes, bite, knees to the body, and never stop until they aren't moving.. You don't punch, your grab their hair and you smash your head into their face until your crack your own skull while ramming your knees into them, bitting them to rip flesh off, and if they grab you, you snap fingers back the instant a hand touches you.

All else fails, wrap up and drop your weigh on their knees or go for a esophagus break at any point you are close enough to do it.

That's how you street fight and keep from getting yourself boot fucked first.

I have never stood toe to toe in a fight, 10 people around you to help when they hear and arm break they back off.

Soon as a hand comes close to my eyes, my left foot is posting on a hip to scoot my hips out to the left, my right hand is grabbing an elbow, my left leg is swinging over a head and I'm dislocating an elbow via armbar.

Gross muscle movements, all of them.

It's the great thing about training alive ready for the adrenal dump.

Then maybe you can tell us why there are no big, fast, aggressive and athletic guys kicking people's ass with KF techniques in any ring anywhere, and why there is absolutely NO video footage of anyone kicking anyone's ass with KF outside of a KF movie?

I made like the broken wind and GTF out of there just as the po po was comming in. I got his jugular not his windpipe he suevived I'm told. (Big Bas MOFO he was dude 6.6 280 easy) Like I said he was kickin' my ass, 'till then.

Actually, there's one.

His name is Cung Le. But even Cung Le trains in BJJ. LOL

I have persuaded a few guys to stop fuckin' with me when I was younger with the first strike being an eye flick/jab. That said i didn't poke their eyes all the way out either. It got their fuckin' attention though.

yeah you're really starting to get all Kung Fooey now.

Your style of fighting has been working for 10s of thousands of years and still does. That's kinda what I've been trying to say you can't plan for everything and if you have to think too much you may think your way to the hospital. In the real world that is.

I have a very good friend from Thailand and he told me in no uncertain terms that on the streets in Thailand the muaythai guys get their asses handed to them by kung fu guys all the time. MuayThai is a sport with rules, in a street fight you have to think about not following the rules.

Also you don't think that these martial arts are evolving and add BJJ and what ever else works to their own systems.

Yeah, I hear that Bruce Lee can kick superman's ass and I 'hear' that KF guys and Ninjas are teH DeAdly, but I never SEE it.

Are you really a blue belt or did you just swipe that pic from somebody? You got your blue in less than a year? Have you ever actually tapped another blue belt?

I'm with ya' but he does san shou and he's winning

disclaimer had a BB in Shaolin Gung Fu when I was 17 trained from the time I was 7.

There was no BJJ here back then, not really.

BTW In enter the dragon the first fight bruce is in he taps the guys with an arm bar.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for one on one confrontation.

Muay Thai for more than one.

Brain power to avoid confrontation.


Here is the caveat for BJJ. You have to train BJJ at 3 to 4 times a week for about a year to be a bad ass amongst non-trained mortals.

Muay Thai fighters can be bad asses in a month or so. A BJJ guy at least blue belt level will destroy a Muay Thai fighter that has been training since a sperm.

Combine BJJ, Muay Thai and some smarts would be optimal for both defense and offensives fighting.

OK, never said less than a year. I got it in 16 monthes and I don't do a shitload of tapping unless I'm trying new stuff. (Even if I'm getting dominated by a good blue belt I'm hard to tap 'cause I'm cautious, but I tap when necessary just like anybody else.)

That said I'm in a really new school and I was there the day it opened so we're all closely matched, except for the purples and browns that have migrated to the school from other places.)

PS, is this Bernie?

This video is pretty amusing. you can tell the kung fu guy is pretty new at it, by the way he preens, but it gets the job done, lol....kung fu street fight video

Again, I'll say that it's all a matter of what style suits you.

I have been trained, since I was 8 in a mixture of styles and a bit more in some special areas. Adrenaline to me, isn't the same as it is to you. It's a drug to me... I don't know what pain is. I can dislocate my shoulders, arms, fingers, feet.. I have reset my own bones in fights.

Chances of me getting into a real fight with you are slim, you would have to grab me first and either I think the threat is real or take a shot hard enough to set the rage in. I have to black out or I will just laugh at you.

It's not something that is a wonder for me, it has been tested over and over. Your live fights are on mats. Mine live fights are with people that have guns, knives, and are trained.. and they have the same choice as me, fight or die.

I'm still here.....

I have a very good friend from Mars, he said Martian Judo beats Earth Kung fu.

Please stop.

Yes it is. And I'm asking because NOBODY I've ever met who's stuck with BJJ long enough to get their blue believes this KF ninja crap. You can't believe it once you've been on the mat and seen how things really work, and anybody who gets their jugular bitten out dies in seconds. Even if they're 6'6" 260 lbs.

Adrenald Dump is the same for everyone. Fine motor skills go away, tunnel vision, sounds become mute.

Everyone thinks I have to grab someone to fight, I train MMA, that is all ranges. If it doesn't win in the ring, there's HUGE evidence it won't in the real world.

I know you've been shot, and survived, and in the service of our country, but that really doesn't make you superman. Those of us who do train and spar in an ALIVE martial art know that anyone, ANYONE can be beaten on any given day. No matter what you train in, how bad you think you are, etc etc.

Again this my martial art can beat your martial art stuff is how most cheap movie plots are, it's the man that make the difference every time.

OK here I am sticking up for all kinds of martial arts against the BJJ guys and I take BJJ and am OK at tit for a beginer.

All I'm sayin' is that you should be careful what you take as absolute!!!!!!

yeah that's the only vid that any KF guy can bring up, but the fact is the guy was fighting a totally unschooled guy 20 lbs smaller than him, and also as soon as the fight started he was swinging wildly and showing about as much technique as your average 8 yr old on any schoolground.

Again, I'll say that if you think styles don't matter, you're not paying attention.

Nigga please. It's a wonder ANYONE is still walking around alive with you on the streets. I'll bet you $1,000.00 that any human being not overdosing on crack stops fighting and starts screaming when he gets his arm broke. The Incredible Hulk is a comic book.

Thanks for this.

Well he was bleeding good enough to get him off of me and I had to take off my shirt before I walked past the cops at the door 'cause I looked like a blood suckin' freak.
Maybe my neck bittin' style needs work.

Apparently I'm preaching to the choir, 'cause this is all I have been trying to say.

Quite frankly, it doesn't matter what martial art you practice... BJJ, Krav Maga, Muy Thai, and etc, because I can shoot laser beams from my finger tips. There's no beating that. Not even with guns.

Reminder: UFC 89 is on tonight, and it's free on Spike TV at that.

yeah, maybe. I got into a fight with 6 Hells Angels the other night because their women all wanted me, and I took 3 of them out with a psychic mind blast before the red haze dropped and I bit the other three's throats out but they kept coming so I did a 360 degree spinning wheel heel kick and broke all their jaws with one sweeping motion. One of them managed to get behind me and broke my arm and my neck but I was sooooo mad that I didn't even feel it so I poked out his eyes and fucked the sockets. Then I poured my beer all over them and went home and got a good night's sleep. I guess I need to work on my biting technique too, would have been easier.

:helpmeThanks for reminding me about the fight.... >;-))

I never said I was a bad ass by any means and I can only put forth that there are no absoltues. This topic has gotten quite serious and is not going to get any better from here I'm afraid.

So BJJ is fantastic and noone disagrees with that. Some think all other martial arts are shit, I disagree. Since Master Carlos Gracie Jr will always be able to kick my ass SHOULD I STOP TRAINING? Because his JiuJitsu is better than my JiuJitsu?:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpm e

Only 6? Lightweight. :winkwink:

A point in my life, yes.. very much so. I had a lot of problems and those problems built up and put in a hospital for a good while. It took about 7 years for me to actually say, I'm calm now.

But I can't watch some TV, it's not rage, I can't control how much adrenaline my body puts out, and it blacks me out.. then I just forget about you me or anything, other than my own fears.

I was trying to bring a little humor to the situation. I even stated as much in my commentary when posting the link.

You didn't even respond to me, you responded to someone else that responded to me, so it's not a matter of "paying attention" and needs no reiteration. Just adress me if you are responding to me.

I'm not a "kung fu guy", so arguing that point with me is like arguing which of us is has a better tan (see the pasty picture to the left).

You missed my point entirely. By your argument, any fat 500lb slob of a webmaster who studies your style of fighting can beat someone in top form with the same amount of TKD training.

Wow guys, some great info here. THANK YOU!!!!

BJJ stands for Brazilian Ju Jitsu?

I didn't say I was superman, I didn't say you would punch me and it would be a wall then I would punch you and knock you through a house. I have been beaten, other people have gotten the upper hand in fights, I have been almost beaten to death.

On the mat, I have won and lost, like everyone else. I don't think I get any stronger, or faster, or better at what I do. Its when I get backed into a corner, in a bad way, my mind just rips, pain is gone, fear, love, everything rational but survive is gone.

My adrenalin dump, is nothing like yours. I can set mine off just by "imagining me and you fighting" I have a personality disorder set off by adrenalin. Even roller coasters can do it, and have. My focus goes off the chart, my vision and hearing get focused, my muscle respond without thinking.

I can shoot a gun under pressure far better than I can on the range, as an example.

Some people when faced with real fear, like if you know you are going to die situation. Piss themselves, shit themselves, and even die of a heart attacks on the spot. Others run and hide. And some get overly focused, get extremely good at the task at hand, and create fantasy worlds in their heads to understand the situation.

I'm not the baddest person I know.. a guy name Shartzer is, never seen him say ouch to anything, lose a fight, and it did appear to most of us that he was super man.

yeah I have the same thing, you wouldn't like me when I'm mad.

I HULK OUT MAN!!!!! YOU BETTER NOT FUCK WITH ME MAN!!!!! I'M PSYCHO MAN!!!!!

Wow, you clearly have no idea. My problem is the lack of being mad, the lack of anger, the lack of all emotions or rational thought, my mind just stops processing logical information.

Instead of freezing up, like most people, I get very focused, very daring, no understanding that it's dangerous, just a fake story in my head telling me that this is so bad that I will die.

Several years after the Marines, I couldn't work. I couldn't hold a job down, I would invent fake social issues in my head, and act on them. It's why I went into porn, to work for myself.

I am me, and I am unique. I'm aggressive on here, naturally. And in real life, I'm even more aggressive, if you can get me to open up. It's not an anger thing at all. Just my mind telling me that whatever I'm doing now is the most important thing/subject/idea/talk ever to happen...... I have been working on the problem for a long time now..

Krav Maga and BJJ. BJJ is good to learn the basic chokes. Lots of stuff you can do standing

that's my theory too $.02

Just plain old street fighting. If you can get somebody that actually does street fighting and is good at it and you can keep yourself very fit its one sure way of at least having a good chance in a fight. I have a friend that used to do it over here and I have seen him put guys on thier asses at some of the bike rallys. Mind you he was a mad fucker anyway. I was always very nice to him for some reason :winkwink:

Dood, you're about as athletic as StuartD

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I was in a hurry when I posted that, there were ISKA fights down here at Punch Fitness I had to go too. Funny enough, your Mestre will start teaching BJJ down there. ATT fighter won the belt, made it all worthwhile sitting through 12 fights.

Anyways, I forgot to post that on any given day anyone can win, the only factor is your training.

If you train in a shitty no contact, no sparring martial art, you have ZERO idea if it will work in the real world. Train in Alive manner with fully resisting opponents.

Kung Fu doesn't, with the exception of San Shou or San Da
Aikido sure as fuck doesn't. I lost 2 years to that shit, and it's useless.
Most Karate doesn't except for Kyokushinkai, which is hardcore shit
Tae Kwon Do
Krav Maga
Hagganah
Any silat
All rubbish. Forms will not win you fights. Theory and stories of how some ancient master beat 30 men with swords doesn't equate to the real world.

Boxing, wrestling, Judo, BJJ, Sambo, Muay Thai, anything that trains in an ALIVE manner, with fully resisting opponents, that's what will seperate you from the pack.

How can you say your adrenal dump is nothing like mine, yet expect me to believe yours is different? Really?

It's called Fight or Flight, everyone has it, you aren't special.

I wish I was special, but life has proven to me that I am not a snowflake unique in my own way.

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