Aikido is great

No disrespect taken, I am traing in BJJ an that's proof that I am a believer.

I have been around enough to know that there are no absolutes in martial arts or anywhere else, for that matter. It's tough to get an arm bar on a guy who is finger fucking your eye. (Is all I'm sayin')

When talking about Street Fights i am trhinking about that Kimbo Guy.. i donßt thing that he ever trained any technique and there are tons of vids out there of him beating fighters from every techniqe..

It's not as easy as it seems to finger fuck someone's eye or grab their throat, or give them a five finger death touch. In fact, it's damn near impossible when the adrenaline is flowing. Otherwise, Royce Gracie and every other MMA fighter would be blind by now :)

What happened to him when he went up against trained guys? Not to mention they wouldn't even ALLOW those guys to use BJJ against him?

It really depends on you, what sort of person you are, what your personal strengths and weaknesses are.

I don't really buy into the whole argument of which style is superior. I think it's more a matter of the person practicing the martial art that determines how effective it is. I've seen people from a million different styles, all with different outcomes.

If you study and aggressive style, but it's not in your nature to fight aggressively, you won't be as effective with it as someone who is naturally aggressive. If you us a defensive style, but you don't have the natural patience to wait for the right moment to act, you won't be effective.

I also think that as much as some styles would like to market themselves as being for everyone, it's only true in the beginning stages.

The style that I studied the longest required that I learn the philosophy and basics needed to earn the first tested rank of two other different styles, before I could teach. That was one of the most valuable lessons of my training, because different situations call for different reactions.

Aikido sucks in a street fight. You don't train live, but with a training partner who falls for you.

It's very hard to take a Judo guy down who is intent on putting you down. Add in clothes in the real world, and you are getting your ass thrown. Judo is an awesome ALIVE martial art.

Boxing has 5 punches, and trains ALIVE. Most people can't even throw a jab right, it's all wild haymakers. A trained boxer will do well against your average joe.

Muay Thai is another great art, 8 weapons, and trains ALIVE.

BJJ is the premiere one on one martial art.

Kung Fu sucks balls. With the exception of San Shou.

TKD sucks balls more.

Krav Maga sucks more balls than TKD, since it only takes a 3 days certification for most Tae Kwon Do teachers to teach it.

Penjak Silat and all those other weird name martial arts suck ass too. All theory, no practical application.

If you aren't sparring hard 100 percent in class, it's not gonna work in the streets. Simple.

I want those of you who think you can poke eyes out in a fight, or do some deadly pressure point bullshit.

Read up on Adrenal Dump.

forget all the fancy shit they're telling you

check this out
wellard paul: the secrets of street self defence

He got some serious mean goin' on for him at the genetic level dude. If you ain't got that you need to have someone teach you good fighting skills. Eventually skill overcomes all other things, except chance/luck etc.......
Slippy on a greasy floor etc... (You can of course minimise this by watching your surrondings like a hawn, but then you become boring.)

Eyes aren't no DIM MAK SHIT everyones got them adn some peopkle go for them. OK.
Hell before AIDS was around I bit a guys throat out in a fight, he was gonna win up 'till then. (I'd let him beat my ass nowadays....)

Kimbo just got his ass beat by a guy who weighed 30lbs less than he does.

How many years did you get for biting a guys throat out?

Eyes are illegal in MMA and that's why, you can't hit what you can't see. (Although if you had a hold of them you may be able to submit themby feel. Hummmmmmm

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They weren't in the first couple of years, and NOBODY got their eyes poked out. The eye-poking thing is ridiculous, as is just about every other thing associated with KF.

For the ninjas talking about how the style doesn't matter, there's a reason ALL MMA guys know BJJ, at least well enough to stop it. There's a reason ALL mma guys know some boxing or MT, and there's a reason most of them know some wrestling too. Styles matter. There is a world of difference between KF and BJJ, and if you can't see that difference you need to step into your nearest BJJ school, they will show you.

You'd be amazed how easy it is to turn your head a fraction of an inch when someone is pawing at your eyes. In fact, you don't even have to try. It's instinct and happens faster than thought.

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My style is called go ape shit and fuck all fears.

Take a shot, and just go fucking nuts, go for the throat, eyes, bite, knees to the body, and never stop until they aren't moving.. You don't punch, your grab their hair and you smash your head into their face until your crack your own skull while ramming your knees into them, bitting them to rip flesh off, and if they grab you, you snap fingers back the instant a hand touches you.

All else fails, wrap up and drop your weigh on their knees or go for a esophagus break at any point you are close enough to do it.

That's how you street fight and keep from getting yourself boot fucked first.

I have never stood toe to toe in a fight, 10 people around you to help when they hear and arm break they back off.

Soon as a hand comes close to my eyes, my left foot is posting on a hip to scoot my hips out to the left, my right hand is grabbing an elbow, my left leg is swinging over a head and I'm dislocating an elbow via armbar.

Gross muscle movements, all of them.

It's the great thing about training alive ready for the adrenal dump.

Then maybe you can tell us why there are no big, fast, aggressive and athletic guys kicking people's ass with KF techniques in any ring anywhere, and why there is absolutely NO video footage of anyone kicking anyone's ass with KF outside of a KF movie?

I made like the broken wind and GTF out of there just as the po po was comming in. I got his jugular not his windpipe he suevived I'm told. (Big Bas MOFO he was dude 6.6 280 easy) Like I said he was kickin' my ass, 'till then.

Actually, there's one.

His name is Cung Le. But even Cung Le trains in BJJ. LOL

I have persuaded a few guys to stop fuckin' with me when I was younger with the first strike being an eye flick/jab. That said i didn't poke their eyes all the way out either. It got their fuckin' attention though.

yeah you're really starting to get all Kung Fooey now.

Your style of fighting has been working for 10s of thousands of years and still does. That's kinda what I've been trying to say you can't plan for everything and if you have to think too much you may think your way to the hospital. In the real world that is.

I have a very good friend from Thailand and he told me in no uncertain terms that on the streets in Thailand the muaythai guys get their asses handed to them by kung fu guys all the time. MuayThai is a sport with rules, in a street fight you have to think about not following the rules.

Also you don't think that these martial arts are evolving and add BJJ and what ever else works to their own systems.

Yeah, I hear that Bruce Lee can kick superman's ass and I 'hear' that KF guys and Ninjas are teH DeAdly, but I never SEE it.

Are you really a blue belt or did you just swipe that pic from somebody? You got your blue in less than a year? Have you ever actually tapped another blue belt?

I'm with ya' but he does san shou and he's winning

disclaimer had a BB in Shaolin Gung Fu when I was 17 trained from the time I was 7.

There was no BJJ here back then, not really.

BTW In enter the dragon the first fight bruce is in he taps the guys with an arm bar.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for one on one confrontation.

Muay Thai for more than one.

Brain power to avoid confrontation.


Here is the caveat for BJJ. You have to train BJJ at 3 to 4 times a week for about a year to be a bad ass amongst non-trained mortals.

Muay Thai fighters can be bad asses in a month or so. A BJJ guy at least blue belt level will destroy a Muay Thai fighter that has been training since a sperm.

Combine BJJ, Muay Thai and some smarts would be optimal for both defense and offensives fighting.

OK, never said less than a year. I got it in 16 monthes and I don't do a shitload of tapping unless I'm trying new stuff. (Even if I'm getting dominated by a good blue belt I'm hard to tap 'cause I'm cautious, but I tap when necessary just like anybody else.)

That said I'm in a really new school and I was there the day it opened so we're all closely matched, except for the purples and browns that have migrated to the school from other places.)

PS, is this Bernie?

This video is pretty amusing. you can tell the kung fu guy is pretty new at it, by the way he preens, but it gets the job done, lol....kung fu street fight video

Again, I'll say that it's all a matter of what style suits you.

I have been trained, since I was 8 in a mixture of styles and a bit more in some special areas. Adrenaline to me, isn't the same as it is to you. It's a drug to me... I don't know what pain is. I can dislocate my shoulders, arms, fingers, feet.. I have reset my own bones in fights.

Chances of me getting into a real fight with you are slim, you would have to grab me first and either I think the threat is real or take a shot hard enough to set the rage in. I have to black out or I will just laugh at you.

It's not something that is a wonder for me, it has been tested over and over. Your live fights are on mats. Mine live fights are with people that have guns, knives, and are trained.. and they have the same choice as me, fight or die.

I'm still here.....

I have a very good friend from Mars, he said Martian Judo beats Earth Kung fu.

Please stop.

Yes it is. And I'm asking because NOBODY I've ever met who's stuck with BJJ long enough to get their blue believes this KF ninja crap. You can't believe it once you've been on the mat and seen how things really work, and anybody who gets their jugular bitten out dies in seconds. Even if they're 6'6" 260 lbs.

Adrenald Dump is the same for everyone. Fine motor skills go away, tunnel vision, sounds become mute.

Everyone thinks I have to grab someone to fight, I train MMA, that is all ranges. If it doesn't win in the ring, there's HUGE evidence it won't in the real world.

I know you've been shot, and survived, and in the service of our country, but that really doesn't make you superman. Those of us who do train and spar in an ALIVE martial art know that anyone, ANYONE can be beaten on any given day. No matter what you train in, how bad you think you are, etc etc.

Again this my martial art can beat your martial art stuff is how most cheap movie plots are, it's the man that make the difference every time.

OK here I am sticking up for all kinds of martial arts against the BJJ guys and I take BJJ and am OK at tit for a beginer.

All I'm sayin' is that you should be careful what you take as absolute!!!!!!

yeah that's the only vid that any KF guy can bring up, but the fact is the guy was fighting a totally unschooled guy 20 lbs smaller than him, and also as soon as the fight started he was swinging wildly and showing about as much technique as your average 8 yr old on any schoolground.

Again, I'll say that if you think styles don't matter, you're not paying attention.

Nigga please. It's a wonder ANYONE is still walking around alive with you on the streets. I'll bet you $1,000.00 that any human being not overdosing on crack stops fighting and starts screaming when he gets his arm broke. The Incredible Hulk is a comic book.