Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14925026)

Dear fine sire,

A lot of the US citizens who are outraged at the term socialist, or promotion of socialist ideals have no fucking clue what it means. They just know Fox News says it's bad.

Regards,
:2 cents:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14926006)

It's not so much that Americans fear complete socialism, as that they understand that socialism is a crappy system.

The constitution was created to keep the central government as small as possible with the belief that people should live in total freedom. This means that through individual accountability and self reliance, the people are not dependents of the government.

This system, is what created the only true world super power (in less than 250 years) and in the process added more wealth and prosperity to the rest of the world through trade than any other system at any given time in the history. In addition, the capitalist system in America has created the most significant technological & medical advances the world has ever seen - many of which have directly affected and improved the lives of more people around the world than any other nation. This system has also created the best Health Care in the world. Health care rich with technology that is exported around the world.

America through capitalism, quickly became the largest economy by many fold and from that enormous economy sends more food and financial aide to the world than any other Nation and more than nearly all Nations combined. Capitalism, is what built that.

Capitalism, is what attracts millions of immigrants every year. Capitalism is what gives any person in this country the ability to go from the lowest rung to the highest rung of society in one generation.

When people talk about Obama being a 'Socialist' its because he is. He has demonstrated to be the most liberal, and most socialist leaning politician in America. His comments the other day proved that and if he looses in November that will be the defining reason.

Capitalism is what created the "American Dream" and except for those too lazy to pursue it, the majority of the people, including those not yet here, despise any attempt to change or alter their ability to go after that dream.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14926014)

Whiplashdug,
85% of americans thought the bailout was a bad idea, yet the government passed it.

If that's not proof your constitution means SHIT then I don't know what is.
Don't kid yourself, the government controls everything and the people have no say.

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14926006)

It's not so much that Americans fear complete socialism, as that they understand that socialism is a crappy system.

The constitution was created to keep the central government as small as possible with the belief that people should live in total freedom. This means that through individual accountability and self reliance, the people are not dependents of the government.

This system, is what created the only true world super power (in less than 250 years) and in the process added more wealth and prosperity to the rest of the world through trade than any other system at any given time in the history. In addition, the capitalist system in America has created the most significant technological & medical advances the world has ever seen - many of which have directly affected and improved the lives of more people around the world than any other nation. This system has also created the best Health Care in the world. Health care rich with technology that is exported around the world.

America through capitalism, quickly became the largest economy by many fold and from that enormous economy sends more food and financial aide to the world than any other Nation and more than nearly all Nations combined. Capitalism, is what built that.

Capitalism, is what attracts millions of immigrants every year. Capitalism is what gives any person in this country the ability to go from the lowest rung to the highest rung of society in one generation.

When people talk about Obama being a 'Socialist' its because he is. He has demonstrated to be the most liberal, and most socialist leaning politician in America. His comments the other day proved that and if he looses in November that will be the defining reason.

Capitalism is what created the "American Dream" and except for those too lazy to pursue it, the majority of the people, including those not yet here, despise any attempt to change or alter their ability to go after that dream.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14926110)

Yes. I am one of those 85%. And I will work as hard as I can to get the elected officials in my districts who supported it voted out of office when the time comes to keep my promises to each of them prior to its passing. That is my form of control. The bailout is a ridiculous thing and a product of bad politicians not a bad system. :mad:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14925447)

Which explains a lot. You are used to having your hand held at every step, and having a government so overbearing you can not use a chainsaw unless properly certified.

Originally Posted by ContentSHOOTER (Post 14926367)

Kinda like the country you live in, think about it Grandpa:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14925026)

Dear fine sire,

A lot of the US citizens who are outraged at the term socialist, or promotion of socialist ideals have no fucking clue what it means. They just know Fox News says it's bad.

Regards,
:2 cents:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14925119)

The US was founded on the principle that the PEOPLE had the power, and that THEY allowed the government to have certain rights, under strict limits, not the other way around. Also, as this country is MUCH larger than any of the EU countries, our system was set up to give much more power to the state and local governments, rather than a central federal government (see the 10the amendment.)

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14926364)

Remember everyone, Star Trek's perfect society was a communist one. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14925440)

It's the Right Wing .. aka "Republicans" whom really have no clue about what Democratic socialism means. The GOP scares them into thinking it's like communism. Mix that with the just out right selfishness of many right wingers whom think because they got their's well fuck anyone else. Ironically enough these are the very one's whom claim to be Christians. (so much for the Bible and the idea of if you have two fish give one to someone whom has none)

What they fail to realise is our entire public school system is based on socialism. While it might not be the best school system in this day and age but that's mainly because it's under funded not because the system doesn't work.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14925422)

Your handle is misleading, as was your initial post. You come here under the guise of wanting to learn, when the reality is that you just wanted to argue and display your ignorance.

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14926364)

Remember everyone, Star Trek's perfect society was a communist one. :upsidedow