100 atheists ......

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I have to admit you have great style with your music posts. I love reading a thread to a song I havent heard in a while. Keep it up.

i wasnt talking about you, i was talking about the nut in the video
i dont know you enough but judging from your manic reply id say you have one or two screws loose as well

I do not believe this.

Just because the universe is very complex does not mean there is a mythical white bearded man that created it. This isn't even logic. It's an assumption.

Sure. But it also means you invent your own religion this way. If every person did this, there could be 6 billion different versions that 'explain' our existence and our so called creator. Some people worship in a singular God, some people believe there are dozens of them. Some people think it's the Sun or it's a cow. Some people think there is this mysterious God that never shows himself to us, some people think he comes into our dreams, and even shows up on toast bread. Since they can't all be correct at the same time, it's all just a fantasy.

You absolutely are entitled to have your own fantasy, as much as the next guy.


Not true. Humans are the only intelligent creatures on Earth, out of millions of species. Our brains are very capable. We live in a time where technology and science is advancing faster than ever before. We have not even come close to reaching our limits. It could not have happened without the contributions of individual people. We do matter.

why did i click this thread....

You've just described an atheist position. And you didn't answer the question.
The question was "How and why would it advance or augment our understanding of the universe to call electromagnetism or gravity god rather than plain old "vanilla" electricity or gravity."
Finding out what "natural forces" created the universe is the raison d'être of the scientific method. You can do that without calling anything God or redefining Him. You just point at something, ask "Why" and apply the scientific method to try and find out. We found out that gravity creates stars and electricity can spark life without calling those forces "god". My bowels "create" shit but we didn't have to call our assholes god to find that out. Science, with it's heavy leaning on experimentation doesn't even require there to be a initial guiding question to generate a serendipitous discovery. We didn't have to call mercury a "god" to discover it helped create photographic images.

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I did not describe Atheism here.

The question is silly and lacking a '?', but the answer is 'it makes no difference'.

An Atheist wanting to inject god into everything. That's an unforeseen twist.

Do you believe ShizzyLadies.com is worth $150k?

wow, thanks man. I'm not the best "talker". :1orglaugh



im a youtube freak:uhoh

Being politically correct is for losers

Yes you did. "What the goal is, is to possibly answer questions of what natural forces can do the work of God." is about as atheistic statement as I can imagine only a couple of notches down the list after "I don't believe in a supernatural god or being".
So you did in the majority of your post that I obviously referred to, and even in the bit you've singled out thinking it's contrarian isn't against an atheistic stance. Atheism is lack of a belief in a god. A sufficiently advanced alien being with planet creation tools million of years technologically more advanced than us playing "real life Civ IV" is perfectly within the atheist worldview as long as they themselves weren't created by a supernatural god.

The question is designed to show the uselessness of your statements, ergo not silly, but efficient because you've just agreed with me. If it makes no difference than why spent 5 minutes babbling about electricity as a redefined god, an almighty force.



Er.. In opposites land, where "injecting" means trying to remove, then yes you are correct. In.. uh.. this reality, any knowledge of the english language will read my statements as trying to show why your statement "interchange the idea 'God' with a sort of unified energy that holds the Universe together and makes things happen and also destroys those things. What if gravity, or electricity is the almighty energy that creates and destroys and holds the Universe together?" is useless and at best superfluous.
Have you not been able to comprehend the several times I've asked what the point of doing that actually is? I'm using your definition of god. I'm quoting you. I don't mean a guy with a beard. I'm saying there isn't a difference between the thought process that makes a caveman point at lightning and call it a thunder god, and you pointing at electromagnetism and calling it an "almighty force" of "creation". I don't mean that you think it's a god. I SPECIFICALLY said that. That you wouldn't pray every time you turned on your tv. I said that it was an empty thought game and implied that it neither advances or augments our understanding of the universe.

Given it's only useful when the discussion is of a level where the participants understand each other, and given you aren't grasping these quite obvious arguments, even to rebut them, there isn't much point continuing with you.

man i apologize to the gfy faithful i have tooken a break from responding i have been away 2night, i shall look through tom.

i am to lazy to quote and find but to do with time and how infinite does make sense....

imagine re-incarntion on how when your die it is the next step to becomining fully divine, so maybe when you die it is the beginning and being born is the end,


i hope that tries to explain the infitite of time as best i can

LOL are you trying to prove my point?

It IS the longest thing we are in for and the biggest therefore using too much time discussion with morons on a fukcing messageboards qaulify as a waste of life, since I dont enjoy it as much as fooling around with my GF, wathcing movies and drinking bears.