read my posts carefully, i did not purchase from broker....

so how are you doing man? any results? :winkwink:

Where are you directing this traffic? Is it to a paysite, Gallery or a blog ?

Give us a link and I'm sure you'll get some help on converting that incoming traffic.

he is 80% right:winkwink:

hey guys, im still deciding where i should direct the traffic to. but im gonna start with a few blogs with promo content see how they do.....still working on it...

Sending to a blog wont be as good as sending to a pay site directly.

so how about a FHG ? or a dating profile page.....

agreed
+1

a very good question...hmmm

All I can say is trial and error. Almost every pay site will have different results cause not all pay sites are the same. Some can make really good FHGs, but others suck at it.

My suggestion is that you send at least 1-10K to each type of landing page and see what converts better.

Unfortunately I require all traffic sent from my site to goto actual content pages as I don't want my surfers mad that I'm sending them straight to pay sites, or to stuff that doesn't reflect what they are clicking on.

That is good.

yea good idea retox josh.

what could you do with chinese popup traffic?

traffic quality has gone down quiet a bit for me. I used to buy traffic from brokers and make a decent return from it. Within the past 3-6 months, Im lucky to break even

Why would anyone sell traffic for less, when they could convert it themselves for more?

payment in advance works miracles..steady cash flow, no need to worry about conversions, crooks, dishonest programs, shaving, the bro's etc etc, plus its a hell of a lot less work....

You paid $7/k for consoles? Wow. I'm going to start a new network of CJ1s right away!!! :D

Shemp is right, a hell of a lot less work. AND I do use my own traffic to promote my own sites.

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I agree, It seems to me that people are dissing here and giving him a bit of a hard time, , but its true that to be optimum with your traffic, you need to research ,

just my opinion, :thumbsup:thumbsup

so how's the test going?

He lost $68 so far, he is now figuring out where to spend his last $2 before the year ends.

Taco Bell?! :pimp

I've converted. There is a method to make this work, and a reason to do it - but if your buying skimmed traffic from a tgp/mgp with all china (3rd world county traffic) and sending it anywhere - much less your paysite - your fucked. Also 70 for 7K is insane prices, way too high - you paid 3-4x's too much.

Everyone who buys from me gets to create their ads, nothing is skimmed or blind.

josh was nice to offer clicks instead of popups.

okay, sending 1k clicks to fling, and another 1k to ulust tomorrow.

Cool, be sure to report back.

After thinking about stuff, if he wants to convert it, obviously throwing the site in the surfers face isn't gonna do that, so I advised that clicks would be better then popups.

What website(s) is this traffic coming from?

Telling us the source is just, if not more, as important as telling us the destination.

Send it to a random live cam feed link that doesn't require a credit card to sign up for free chat or you probably have waisted your money. At least this way you can get %50 back.

The traffic is coming from my babelog site that has almost 50% search engine traffic, not tons of traffic, but good quality traffic, and right now we're testing sending to a ulust page.

hey like pussycash ? name me some.

Word!

I've seen a lot of experimenting with buying from traffic brokers, Search Engines and etc. and it's WRONG to state that only sending to tour directly works or only sending to cams works.

If you're buying skimmed traffic as a feeder for example, you can't expect profit right away until the increase of traffic boosts your SE rankings and you start receiving quality traffic from search engines. This way it serves as "investment". But still I have a lot of examples of people who work with narrow niches and they manage to convert skimmed traffic and make good profit from it.

I have examples of people who tried to convert low quality traffic through a fake TGP, but it didn't work at all at first. They kept trying and didn't say that the traffic is bad. And you know what the solution was? Slightly adjusting their thumbnails from hardcore to extreme and their ratios started to rock.

What I'm saying is:
1) Analyze sources of your purchased traffic, some traffic brokers publish the lists of the sites they work with. That will be a good help in targeting.
2) Play with your landing page. Try different marketing strategies.

Eventually it will pay off (quoting U-Bob here) "if you know what you're doing"

Good luck:winkwink:

I would never popup something on one of my blogs...

You certainly would not send $7 CPM traffic to a gallery.

Am I talking to you or doridori?

You can make a LOT and I mean %600-%700 ROI from broker traffic but you also gotta invest a lot and I'm talking thousands. No way you can get any meaningful results from playing with a few dollars worth of traffic, you gotta buy and buy a lot. The sales keep coming for a long time after traffic stopped, because of bookmarkers. The only thing you gotta be careful is that when the broker sees you keep buying big traffic he will copy your method and send the traffic himself.

Give JoesTraffic a shot, I've always done well with it.

Why should it not work with traffic. People are convinced it works with content and look at how well we are all doing now. :Oh crap

That was me being sarcastic. ;)

I've never understood why people always say "you can't tell on 1k of traffic" or something like that? Why, because the traffic you get is so crappy you really can't tell? because I've had multiple sales off less then 1k of traffic, so if 3+ sales off 1k, becomes 30+ sales off 10k, is that enough to gauge or does it have to be 500k in traffic for you to fully figure out the traffic is worth something?

If your traffic isn't complete shit, you shouldn't have to have hundreds of thousands of it to figure out if it's good or not.

Because, considering all the variables involved, a 1K batch of traffic (or even 10K for that matter) is a statistically insignificant sample.

If you paid $5 for 1K, then yes, you need to do a larger test.

Price has nothing to do with it.

you were right in calling this an experiment

reminder 99.9999% of traffic that is sold dont matter what you push how much you spend you will not even remotely break even (im talking about broker style traffic not SE and traffic that you handpick from say a site like AFF or niche TGP etc)

So, if he paid me $75 for 10k of traffic, and made 5 $35 sales which equals $175, more then double what he paid, it's not a good enough test to see if it's worth continuing with?

I fail to see how that's not a good enough test...

The answer is "it depends".

I hate to go all mathemtically on you guys, but this is an excellent (albeit old) read on 'expected' conversion rates, and how much traffic to send for a real test;

http://www.buildinganempire.com/poisson2.html

WTF :Oh crap

Buying traffic is an art form.

I'm not good at that art, but I know damn well that somebody out there is and
they will continue to buy until the end of time.

People selling traffic aren't making their living off nubes, they are living off
regular buyers that have been buying for years.

I'm not willing to believe that people who buy traffic for years keep doing it
because they are stupid. On the contrary, they keep buying because they've
figured out what I couldn't.

READ this:

this thread was a great read.

any results to speak of thus far?