He has done two designs for me last year and I didn´t have problems with him. He delivered on time. I ordered another one some days ago and I´m sure he will deliver.

Tulku, I hope you get your money back.

But I just can't understand: if you need exchange why don't you ask a biz partner / friend of yours instead of how you tried to resolve? I am a nobody but I have 2-3 friends who are always willing to change for me for zero % and obviously I help them out the same way whenever they ask...

i just wonder why someone would take the scamming route, especially if he/she has some skills.. ah well i guess it's because some peeps are lazy and there's work involved if you want to get paid.

I thought he had a decent portfolio?

It's OK to beg for work. He could have told the forum his story and designed a tour for what he needed. Someone would have gotten a deal, He would have gotten work and been able to pay his bills.

and in this industry if you do 1 thing good for someone they often come back with more work. More money!

Fuckin weirdos.

this thread delivers...er um maybe not:disgust

That's why I just assume everyone at GFY is full of shit until they prove to me otherwise.

What a crazy story.

scammers everywhere

Very good. just for your information, Michael, worked for bizarredollars, and he did hundreds of designs for Alan and Myself, in fact other banner thread his examples are ALL bizarre designs, and we did not have any problems what so ever, but when things got hard for him, that is when this started so, I do know Michael is struggling, but he still has scammed, I have nothing but admiration for the work he has done.... and i still think (hope) maybe he can salvage something, and not let his talent go to waste, people know they will have to have the designs done first and then the money on delivery....

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=885451 banners=bizarredollars

If he´s honest, he´ll take orders, deliver and get the payment when designs are finished. Of course he has to pay back what he has taken. I hope everything will be resolved.

Thanks for the support to all ..
before a couple of hours I've posted that he sent me again email and I have replied .. so the agreement is he'll do some banners work for Naughty-pages .. and Naughty-pages will send the money to me for this work .. let's see how will work this out .. If he do this I think you'll get your work done .. If not .. well he knows ..

fyi, I retracted what I said

"I actually take it back, I have NEVER support scammers (ie DarkJedi / FantacyContentTracy / etc) and I NEVER will

....and I was mistaken before, YES this was a full blown scam what you did Michael/Paysighting, I want nothing to do with scammers"

You are not the only one, he told me also he was on his daughters computer:

I have some mails from him, he worked for me several months but we fired him:

Reply-To: <[email protected]>
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>

Subject:
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 09:20:53 +0200

Hi John,

On Friday i made like 50% of the hosting index page. Will finish it =
today, and upload the zip.

I got to ask you something. And, take my word for it, i would never ever =
have ask if it was'nt absolutely necsessary.
You remember i told you about Alan. The guy who died in a heart attack, =
that i worked fulltime for over at bizardollars.
When i lost that job everything went to shit, to say the least. Five =
months past between when he died and i got the fulltime with you, which =
i'm very thankful for.
Those five months managed to completely ruin my economy. Not that hard =
to figure.
Anyway, bills piled up.=20

What i was going to ask you was if it's possible to pay the salary for =
May and June at the same time (that's 2000 x 2- the $100 cash advance =
you already paid a week ago)?
That would mean that i will be unpaid next month, of course.
But my wife has just started her new job, and will get her first full =
salary next month, so we will manage to "survive" anyway.

I know it's much to ask, but as i said, that would really save my =
economy alot.
I dont know, but i hope all this makes sense.

Is this possible?

/Michael

When he started for us I did give him a bonus of about 900 US.

I can make Ice work with this to banned his ip and never posts again

what a sexy thread. damn

I thought Ice was not around anymore?

Anywhoo... hold off on a ban recommendation and read this first:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1#post15439698

...

don't ban him. Looks like he wants to work things out.

Update:
he has done some work for Naughty-Pages already .. and I've got the first $125 ..

I don't know... If this is the first time and he's been around for a long time.... I see someone desperate! I might be wrong, but...... Nice to see some people tries to help him pay his debts!

Id take you as a new client :P

Where is he from? https://complaint.ic3.gov/ctf.aspx :thumbsup What an immature prick, he needs to be taught a fucking lesson. Let him rot in jail for awhile.

Im glad to here that. But even putting it right doesnt change what he did to you. I assume you dont just transfer money for the thrill of it. So you wanted that money for something, which you have had to put on hold. He should compensate you for the money you lost (without any fees) and your wasted time, stress in dealing with it, and any other expense that youve incurred. If you wanted the money in that account to pay a bill, your now late with that. For that he should pay :2 cents:

glad to read you got the first 125 back

now the rest

So how can a dude with kids.. who works at home in a job where we basically decide how much we make.... not pay his bills?

We sit on our asses at home and promote shit..
how do you not pay bills? especially with kids?

Money gets tight? Spend an extra 3-4 hours gallery building, submitting, blogging, pimping...

simple as that.
there's no 'sympathy' excuse for theft.. or trifling, lazy shits.

methinks there's an addiction.. the only thing that'd make someone who seems "straight" steal so blatantly like that is a blurred mind and addiction.

:1orglaugh

Seriously, web designers need to start coming up with new excuses.

Thanks for pointing that out Mr. Right,

Just got me remembering, when Alan died, my friend and business partner, Paysighting should remember he is still here, not like Alan, get things into perspective........

OMG what a time that was, such a tragedy,
and at that time, I was working 23 and a half hours a day, but did I scam people, ??
no, put in lots and lots of time and effort, and you dont scam people.... if theres a bill needs paying etc, put in more work legit work=$$$$
you only get out what you put in

yes now waiting the rest ..

atleast he's trying to sort things out :thumbsup goodluck

that avatar kicks ass

Might be worth checking out the post below you.

Got the next batch of headers from him, so I just sent ya another $125 for a total of $250 so far.

A couple more days and he should be settled with what he owes ya ;)

i hate to tell you but the only way to get more money out of someone who already is a scammer is with a bat.

Got them ..
yes a couple days ...

yeah, but would he have been paying back like he is doing now, if these threads were never started??????

Mike, you told me you'll finish the design? where is it dude?

bump for Mike with question "wheres my design or my $"?

who cares, you retards pick the wrong people to do business with

piss off bot.

sorry to hear this. but then again, half a grand....wasn't the smartest move.

FYI:

he is all paid up now

Just got the last payment .. and I've got all my money back ..
I want to thank you to all who support me here and messaged me on ICQ to ask if they can help ..
Special thanks to DutchTeenCash , bizarrejan and mostly to Naughty-Pages who's worked things to get my money back ..