Talking about Tubes, anyone know of any DATING sites giving out FULL embeddable FLV files? They monetize via dating upsells.

Saying you convert 1:200 is very misleading, because how many page views does it take to actually get a sale on the video page?

The reason you would see a ratio like that is because not many of your surfers are ever going to pay for a membership. Most are free loaders that will never buy. The very few that actually do click through are likely already pre sorted.

It's the same deal with spammers.. They send out millions of e-mails yet they can get ratios that are 1:30. If a surfer is dumb enough to click a e-mail spam link, they are already very likely to buy a membership.

The simple fact is tubes don't push the same kind of click through to tours as say a gallery may. However just because the ratio is lower than a average doesn't mean the bulk of the traffic is better than say gallery traffic. Because it takes many more page views to get those limited few click thoughs.

and you wont see any either :2 cents:

How many tens of thousands of people watch the videos as free loaders vs the very few that actually click through to the tour. Check that stat and you will see how valuable the traffic is and what it's doing to this industry.

Ratio means jack shit with tubes.. Just like it means jack shit with e-mail spammers..

The same argument came from, the babelog sites that used everyone's content to sell 50 adds all over the gallery pages. They would claim real low raito's just like you are claiming with the tubes. However the reality of it is there would only be 1 tiny little link under on the gallery page, meanwhile there would be 50 other links on the gallery page.

The few surfers that actually found the links were likely looking for it which caused the ratio's to be good.. The truth of the matter is the babelogs didn't give jack shit about sending sign up they were just a bonus. They were interested in using the content to generate traffic in order to sell dating,cams and ad spots.

Which is the same thing many of the tubes do.

Too late sig spot...

We have some affiliates doing good conversions. maybe someone will post

Your a fucking dumb, ignorant, arrogant piece of white trash.

My squirtbukkakes.com website alone makes $600-$1000 a month .

Tube sites are a smart way to get eyes on your service, product or debate .

Don't listen to kids like this fucker!

If you use the same content everyone else has of course it isn't going to sell. Try some original content.

good point, ilegal tubes dont care

:Oh crap

Very well said my man!

how much can tube sites earn if they have 10k daily UV? any ideas?

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Exactly.

CTRs at tube sites are very low, and tend to get even lower quickly.

Ratios are often not so bad, but that doesn't mean jack shit because only a small fraction of viewers are actually clicking, compared to the traditional advertising medias like galleries etc. And those who are clicking were probably the ones already interested, if they found that small text link to a paysite buried somewhere inbetween huge dating and cum sites ads.

Tubes can send only maybe like 20% of the traffic to paysites, compared to what say tgp can send, given they have an equal amount of daily unique visitors. Hence, tubes as the main advertising media can only support 20% of what the industry is now (or what's left of it) - and that is if they ALL turned legal all of a sudden, which is not going to happen.

tubes on your mind this morning?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

average ctr on tubes that account for 40% of the tube market is roughly 0.645%. average cpm on those sites are roughly .32-.35 per cpm. do the math.

i set up www.deadmad.com

Targetting US you will see results like that from the big tubes :2 cents:

Actually legal tube sites ARE mgp's. :2 cents:

Tube sites are worth nothing unless they pay on advertising. The more tubes out there from silly idiots trying to be something they are not then its bad news. Ill agree with you!

But for companies like uporn and other similar, well, companies producing legit, good content have a place to advertise while surfers enjoy. The other tubes that only hold content for the larger companies are wasting their time.

Not a problem either way..... Its content we have seen before.

For a general tube, not very much..

lol.. yes everyone keep building tube sites like idiots...

that will give us, some advantage...

Thank you.

I have posted some stats in the past, and tube CTR is higher than all my other sites, blogs, tgp CTR.

:2 cents:

I've already made sales off my tube site.. and it gets ONLY internal traffic right now.... so you must be doing it wrong, because I have the referring links to prove that my tube domain is making sales...

I wouldn't plunk down $125 for a tube script if I didn't have hard evidence that it wasn't going to make any money. Yes I ran a free script for a year before converting it over to a professional tube script.

Tube sites don't begin big money until they are receiving a good deal of traffic. Then you are able to sell the advertising and such and not rely on straight sales.

Nope they are way better. Especially for the owner.

and the bonus in that case he wont have to pay affiliates. :Oh crap

BV has original content....sorry to be late in the game...but he has some good shit

Wrong again.
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I really wonder how so many people are complaining about tube sites not making money.

Is everyone running a tube? Or how do some of you get this distorted info about tubes not making money?

Lot of contradiction in this thread..

Iblametubes.com

Agreed.
:2 cents:

You and I may have a different definition of big money.

BV is a fucking idiot. End of story