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Only way I'd pay chargeback "fines" would be if there were NO upsells. You want to enjoy upselling my traffic after I sign it, eat the god damned fees or minimize chargebacks by delivering what's sold!
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Simple rule I now have: I only promote ccbill and nats
This VSXBill Orgy cash uses.. You can't check a period longer than 90 days? Lame. I know they have some good niches but also with the Euro conversion, do any sites sell that charge more than 29.95 today.. I can't sell stuff above 29.95. Orgycash, Sextronix, ect how bout going and seeing what a seller like Nasty Dollars or 21st Sextury or Naughty America sell porn for. Then maybe you would convert better and all this would not be nec. You charge too much for your Euro made porn. Sorry bout ranting but I haven't posted in a while. ; ) |
seems like alot of sponsors have been doing this . not to pick on orgycash or include them but i have a feeling the theme right now is "bang the shit out of the card , if you succeed cha-ching , if you don't , blame the affiliate and recoup
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i also wouldnt doubt that serious fraudsters are causing a problem, instead of going for just pps , they go revshare spread the signups amongst sponsors from legit cards collect the cash then charge everything back 3 months later
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and see it get charged back 3 days later. :1orglaugh |
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The way I see it is as an affiliate it's my job to send the traffic to the site and pre sell it. It's up to the program to convert that traffic via their tour and keep the customers happy. A chargeback is not something I can do anything about, assuming I'm not sending fraudulent sales. If a customer charges back, that means either they are scamming on their own accord or the affiliate program didn't keep them happy, which is something me as an affiliate has no control over. If I were promoting them, I'd stop and hell I don't send many CB's percentage wise. |
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At the end of the day, 5% isn't a big deal. If you're doing enough volume with them for 5% to be a big deal, you have (or should have) a custom payout worked out with them anyways, so this doesn't apply to you.
The fines should be split, just like everything else in a revshare program. We should split the revenues, processor fees, and chargeback fines the same. We're either partners or we're not. In this particular case 2) We will be deducting a 5% credit card fee from all signups from now on. We will continue to cover the rest of the credit card fees that our company incurs. It look as if they're paying the CC fees out of their end already...so 5% is still cheaper than splitting it. |
they are charging the customer %5 credit card fee or the affiliate?
if its the customer then they could loose visa/mastercard processing, its against merchant agreements 9 times out of 10. |
50 alarmed webmasters freaking out
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chargeback fines?????!???
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The chargeback fines just blow my mind. Sure remove the sales (like many affiliate programs do) but passing on the fines from paysquare is just nasty. We use paysquare (vxs bill) too, and those CB fines are just part of doing business ... passing them on is downright greedy.
Eat those fines like EVERYONE else does. |
Bump. It seems that they are delaying payments now, and blaming it on Epass. 6 days delay on Epass already.
But affiliates with wire as payout options also got the payment delayed. I knew these changes were a sign of financial problems. :( |
This is the e-mail they sent earlier today, about the payment delay:
For all of our affiliates using ePassporte to receive funds, we regret to announce that we are experiencing a problem with our most recent (May 2009) transfer. We made the payment as we always do, complete and on time, but due to technical issues on the part of ePassporte, the payments are still pending, and we are doing our best to figure out what exactly has happened and how we can fix this problem as soon as possible. Rest assured that Orgycash has in fact made the payments, and everyone will receive their proper payments as soon as we can sort this out. Affiliates who receive money through bank wire transfers have already received their money as usual. We sincerely apologize for the delay and are doing what we can. If anybody has had similar experiences with ePassporte in the past we would be interested in hearing about it. Thanks for your patience, Camron Orgycash |
I guess I am glad the never activated my account. :)
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they could have done it differently.
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I have just recieved their wire transfer ... so I believe tham that there is problem with epass.
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epass wire delays are not unheard of...
With regards to reducing fraud I think a bonus system might work better. Reward long term affiliates who send GOOD signups, rather than scare off potential affiliates with unusual fees or conditions... |
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