fiddy...

htaccess cracking is very simple, its nothing advanced

i'm dumb, so help me out - what did he find through Google? htaccess and password files? he says he has billing logs - people who use 3rd party processors don't have billing logs. is he saying he got customers' credit card data?

In before the lock... no wait.... this is going on 4 years now... this will never get locked.

coolio :)

Real talk

Why go the google route when you could back-door directly on the user level and dump keylogs and everything else directly in your lap?

Conficker anyone?

so what is the point of this thread again?

anyhow, that was 2005. in 2009 things have changed. you can download it all on the tube sites anyhow, no need to crack passes any more. also most of the members areas nowadays are so shit you wouldn't even bother hacking them- it doesnt matter either if the surfer cancels cos they have already been gang raped by 2 cross sells from day one.

How do you think the content gets on the tube sites? People use stolen passwords and download all the content, stolen password sites are still hugely popular.

I'm getting some ready just in case...

Ehhh I used to brute force a bit in my younger days but now a days with a cable modem what is better then a tube site that ads daily.. who cares..

Can we see an example of your power? Like can you take down the 10 biggest tube sites plz :)

of cource imbed gfy.com all over them..

Nothing smart about it either. Quickest way to alert the administrator he or she is being attacked.



How do you know experiments are not being conducted on tubes as we speak?
To reiterate; The object is gaining undetected access. Obtaining sensitive information, and damaging their traffic. To take them down they'll be right back up in a few hours. What have you accomplished? Then they'll be waiting for which I wouldn't try again.
This isn't kiddy-City. This is peoples lively hoods your fucking with and they take it deadly serious!
Haven't your read what Signore Shap wrote?




Exactly!



Then again, some webmasters advertise on high traffic tubes which offer stolen content. The webmasters advertising on tubes are having their content stolen and displayed elsewhere. They send out a DMCA to have their stolen content removed as they profit off someone elses stolen content featured on tube sites. One big circle as everyone somehow is getting a peice of the pie.


One of many examples of getting away with shit right out in the open.
(Sorry admins, I do not know any other way to display this example)
it is unclickable.




Not your question but the time and effort discovering a backdoor would have been ridiculous.
Why would we need to dump keylogs when everything we need is sitting right there.

Great, you change your root. I can guarantee with-in a short period of time we'll have your root again. (Ask Boneprone). To this day he still don't now what the fuck hit him. There are many webmasters on this board just for the sake of saving face chose not to respond.

You can create a pass : N34QrZZTyMlB. It would be obtained as : N34QrZZTyMlB
Most didn't have the common sense to change their addys passwords. It didn't matter anyway. Some used one pass for everything. We gained access to entire lives through their email addresses using their most complex password attempts.

Many had images and scanned receipts of their most prized possessions uploaded onto their server. Private moment photos, safe combination's, copies of their birth certificate, social security cards, tax numbers, investment account numbers, the list is endless.
Some of these people chose not to delete this data out of their email.
If there wasn't a pass included, we simply went to the target site and used their "Lost Password" option. A few moments later the new generated pass was emailed.


Conflictor?
Throwing worms would draw Federal attention real fast!
The object was to be in and out undetected not setting off every bell and whistle.
and to re access at a later date if need be.


Ciao Bella

too long to read, I'm very tired of reading!

congrats you ripper

Start taking down the tubes and you will be a hero to many of us - otherwise all of your words are just blah blah blah....

If you are setting yourself up as the "Evil Hacker Guy" then prove it. No one gives a shit that you may or may not be able to gain access to anyone's pay site(s). All of our shit is going up on tubes anyway, and tubes are killing our sales.

If you want to be a show-off, then let's see you take down a few of the BIG tube sites.

all talk no dance

Hey, thanks for the sales, the entire Industry should thank the password sites for the years and years of sales that produced millions in revenue for us alone. Those attacks greatly helped expose most of us to massive amounts of people that we could turn into sales!

Still funny though, a password guy from the 2000's... kind of missed the 'dangerous' boat by about 8 years.

All PW protection systems stop authorized logins from multi ip ranges. I don't want to shock anyone, but that's what it's job is. Then when a re-leak happens, any paysite half paying attention, knows something is wrong... Programs have stopped re-leaks for years - while others don't care (ie: exposure = sales) they let the protection system allow people in and boot people out...


Anyone that has ran paysites for years knows password sites are of no danger to us. For sure a danger that is so easily corrected, yet "allowed." However - TODAY the dangers are different, it's not the password sites people fear... but controlling your re-leaks (instant leaks from processors like checks) will greatly help on most peoples piracy issues.

hahahaha!

Find your own hahahahahaha bitch to do the dirty work. I've already proven my point with webmasters that make you look fucking stupido.

I am not here to clean up a fucking mess some of you clowns started. To be straight up, I don't like a majority of you hemorrhoids anyway. Even more so you big mouth pussy punks.

Wake the fuck up assholes! Some of those tubes are owned or funded by the same webmasters on this very board. Everything's a big hush hush as they rake in the $.
Now get yourself a fucking life both of you hunk of shit nobody's!


Ciao Bella

:thumbsup

It's so frigging cool to be a thief!
I wanna be just like you.
You're my new role model!

Only some? I'd say all, actually.

Oh, I see what you're saying now. You are a totally useless idiot, with nothing to offer. Thanks for the clarification. Why didn't you just say that up front?

Honestly, Ciao Bella is right. Coming from the Network Admin background myself, I see what he's saying and find it all to be totally creditable. I would have no doubt that with he right talent he could rip anyone of us a new hole. I would only hope that he could use that power for some good. I don't think he's doing a bad thing by post this stuff here. A lot of people need to wake up and see the reality of the situation. There are a lot of forces at work to tear us down. Some of those forces are making more $$$ of your content that you are personally. Instead of banging the guy, maybe we should try and listen to him. It's the little sites like mine, I see one here whining and crying. But where are the big sites? Laughing all the way to the bank. There is a reason they are the BIG sites...

Trust me, I would give my left nut to have a glimpse into that world. Although my sites content might push some limits I could never resort to shady stuff and sleep with myself so I'm most likely destined to remain the size I am... or even eventually get wiped off the net, but only time will tell.

When that sad day does come where it's no longer feasible to pay hosting fee's, affiliate fee's, content fee's, credit card fee's, and equipment fee's I suppose I'll finally be gone. After 10 years I can see the writing on the wall. It really is only a matter of time till all the smaller independent sites are completely gone. Hell it's already been happening all around us, where are all the "mom and pop" sites you saw in 99-2002... gone.

Anyways, I would listen to what this guy has to say very carefully and try to learn something from it.

See, this is where you're all mixed up. We thought about that well before hand. There are proxy lists. With every user and pass that was used it's run through a specific proxy.
The original membership creators IP / followed by one to 5 proxies which kept the account active.



We ran like this for years without one single problem. Passes died, we had 100's more. Flipped this board on it's ear telling webmasters what we were going to do and then doing it. So who the fuck was not paying attention?
They were all foolish? Didn't mind having their content given away?
Take everything I have but did you see our colorful advertisement?

Exposure is sales ?
They are looking for free porn not clicking on and purchasing your fucking dick cream.
Our visitors didn't have that extra money to purchase anything, they were students.
What demographics of surfer are you or think your targeting?


If what you say is true and do not feel password sites are no danger / help you out tremendously why do you have a pay site ?
Just open it up.

I've seen a few say the same thing and it makes no sense to me.
How the fuck can you invest 100's of $1000 in content and do not mind unauthorized access?
Brazzers, Bang Bro's, they are so careless they just about give you the pass. How the fuck would a affiliate make money from that?


Ciao Bella

you beat me to it! :thumbsup

Removing tubes and torrents from the web is the only thing that will save this industry. The proliferation of free porn has gone waaaaay too far now. We are not discussing MGPs anymore.

If this biz was really run by tough guys, then the first tube site owner would have been found at the bottom of a lake with cement shoes, and this shit would have ended right away.

This guy comes on here boasting about all his evil knowledge and skills, but for what purpose? To let us know he can steal our passwords? Who cares? For $20 or $30 bucks any idiot can gain access to anyones site and post the info anywhere. That has always been the case.

This biz is not going down because of passwords, it's going down because of tubes, torrents and to some extent, cross sales.

Shy of addressing those issues, what else matters?

Ciao You seem to have a pretty indepth view of how the adult biz works, Your not telling us everything are you ?

Who do you really think is providing all the free content to the tube site etc in the first place?

Um, that would have been suicide... not murder. Your missing again the big picture of who's funding/running the sites.

First off, boosting yes, but informing that we should wake the fuck up. Second, these so called "idiots" are not paying that 20 or 30 bucks in the first place.

Any yet at the same time it seems like the very companies doing this are the ones being promoted. Get it strait, most affiliates care about 1 thing and one thing only... Making a quick buck and moving on to the next quick but. They for the most part could give a fuck how they got that $$$ as long as they got it. If this was not the case all programs would be recurring only as the smart affiliate could make a LOT more per sale in the long run. Tubes, torrents, etc are all basically morphs of the same thing. Cross sales are the necessary evil that has cropped up in order to pay for the high pps the industry has come to expect.

Carding is still very popular and a lot easier.

:2 cents::2 cents:

use your knowledge and connections to make money, playing porno Robin Hood to a bunch of college kids has got to get old fast. make money.

I'm curious after reading all this - how are you breaking into email accounts in the first place?

It's easy to find email addresses on the web, but how are you getting the passwords to those accounts? I assume it's most brute force attacks, but hotmail/yahoo/gmail lock the account after 3-5 attempts, so how are you breaking into them?

My question for you Ciao Bella is:

Why come here and start this thread?

Just to insult the players in this industry? You're asking company owners to wake up but then again, you add your method can't be beaten...

I'm just not sure what your point is... apart that you are so great. Do you want this industry to find a solution to your method or you just came here to brag? Not clear... We need more info about your real intention and if you're just a problem or part of the solution.

Thanks

cuz people are idiots, many people use the same password for EVERYTHING, so he gets their paysite password and voila - it also works on their email account, and probably even their online banking account. my bank has a setting that makes you answer a personal question every time you log in and I enabled it.

But he said he would get access to their email account first, then their paysite accounts via Forgot Password' functions.

So how does he get access to their email account in the first place?

do the safety dance

I doubt ciao bella couldnt even hack himself out of a wet paper bag.

Why crack passwords when you can have sponsors e-mailing you beta passwords even before the site is released... Whoa! Some might call that "7334"...

LOL.

Nah. deepsy's english sucked big-time. On the other hand, it's quite a while ago, maybe he's learnt in the meantime.

Hack the planet!!!!

Free kevin!!!!!

TRASH A TRASH A TRASH A THEY ARE TRASHING OUR RIGHTS TRASH AAAAAAAAAA

hack-o-rama

yeah, we need something like porn mafia :winkwink:

My balls smell of rotten cheese... methinks I'm gonna go take a shower...

Can someone help me install this root script on my shell acount? I can run eggdrop.

Huh? Yeah, that takes like 2 seconds to spot and correct, 5-6 logins, different ip's - it doesn't make a shit if it's proxy ip's or the isp ip's, we are talking about logins.. Come on..


Leaks and hacks can be stopped... not that hard to figure out why they let it continue.

Are you saying college traffic is worthless? Amazing... That our ENTIRE Industry notices when College Students go to school and head home for summer vacation and even spring breaks... Bunch of broke bastards..

Just like Tube traffic DOES by porn memberships... So did and still does, password traffic. PW traffic isn't like it was, but leaks and attacks aren't like they were either.


Then I would have a free site, and not a paid membership site.


You can download the content as a member, they aren't stopping that. Thus the content will get out, leaks will happen, and so on.


Affiliates cost money... While piracy, pw leaks, free content going out to every part of the world, getting millions and millions of more exposure, more people talking, more people linking, more people sending an email... makes them pure 'net profits.'

More exposure on the content, in more areas, also equals more affiliates.. more affiliates, means more chance someone is doing good, and more people talking about them, thus again.. more affiliates.

The end result.. more affiliates, more exposure, more piracy, more pw leaks.... bringing in more traffic and more sales, for THEM..

Why do you think the biggest of the biggest programs (not all of them) own tubes, allow piracy, allow massive leaks, some have never spoken about it, they buy traffic from them, they bought toolbar traffic, newsgroup traffic, they know EXACTLY what massive exposure does across every possible medium..

Seems to me, a few people making hundreds of millions get it while the mass majority trying to catch up bitch about it.

I like TheDoc and Relentless they always have something intelligent to say that isn't bs or immature.

Is he outta the pokey? Been a while since I heard that name. Believe it's "Deepsy". :winkwink:

"Originally Posted by Savaged00d
Hello. First let me introduce myself. I'm yet another, how you like to call them "hacker". Only difference is, that ciaobella is a poor script kiddie bruteforcer that learned to operate senty/AD/caecus and the likes, and now he thinks he owns the world. I've followed the conversation thus far from outside as many of us do, since we always keep a close eye on all webmaster boards, and didn't interfere untill i saw some of you started "believeing" this clown.

It's true most of you dont know the first thing about security, so what he wrote might seem "Advanced" to you, but that's all kiddie stuff. Half of that was even described in a bruteforce tutorial that comes with one cracking tool. "Ciao bella" is a moron and a newbie. I like how he posts screenshots of his board wiht "200" pages of replies or what not. He probably has 5 replies per page and the thread in a continuous one. With that setup, i know much larger forums that would rack that up to 1000's. Another thing i like is how he speaks for "all" crackers. Another bullshit. There's shitload of more boards and crackers. Paying to him for "stoping to bruteforce your site" (HA HA) wouldn't make up for a single thing in your breached logins. Most of the stuff he wrote was bullshit.
"logs of billing companies???" - Like he has access to any of the billing company. He'd be advertising to them, not to you if he had.
"Ip from mexico bla bla, bullshit bullshit" - Just a proxy found on any cracker board

And last thing. Since he must know most of us actually read this stuff, and we obliterate from internet anyone that contacts with webmasters (as that's the first and most important rule of this trade) he's hiding his board name. We have our world, you have yours. We do this stuff cause of the challenge, not cause of the financial gain (not talking about puny brutefocing). And when we find out the url of his board, you can be sure he'll see what DDoS actually feels like, and how it feels to have your bandwidth sucked right infront of you in a matter of minutes. We'll handle our stray sheep.

Bye"

found this on the other thread, buddy seemed to miss it at the time