Again i was talking about Exclusive mostly!
Of course you should charge less for your OLD stuff, no matter the format.

Ohh and HD is the standard now, anyone not treating it as such really should look around and have a look at what the competition is doing.
It could be that my prices only attract the premium crowd, but its been about 4 years since i have an SD request.

PS: Indeed i did enjoy the beer, the day after...not so much LOL :winkwink:

Wow, interesting thread.

I have never charged more for HDV than i do for SD. There is a difference in production. You need to double up on the lighting when you shoot HDV over SD.

I edit all of my scenes before i turn them in. And the thats where you will see the difference. SD renders out in 2-10 minutes where HDV renders out in 4 hours. The shooter cant really bitch, but the editor really has room to bitch and moan.

I edit my scenes in 15 minutes max, because i shot it and know how it was shot, (right). But to then add 4 hours of render time to that does kinda blow.





At the end of the day, i dont charge more for HDV and i dont see the reason for other producers to charge more.:2 cents:

I do not think HD should cost more than SD for exclusive content production.

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Supply and demand as well. There are less people who can shoot well in HD, so they can charge more.

That is usually what i do as i hit the delete button :cool-smil

JustDaveXxx: Yeah the render time can suck, then again when its exclusive and you just render overnight who really cares....

But yeah we do have clients that want everything done, 3 different formats 2 sizes etc etc ect and yeah when its HD postprod you NEED to charge extra, but every client understands that :)

But again as i started saying, why charge more on the production budgets pr scene. :winkwink:

So by the generally agreed oupon opinion in this thread, that SD and HD should be priced the same, if I were to shoot on film would I have to charge the same as SD and HD?

But then again the generally agreed upon logic in this thread is that SD is outdated and nothing should be shot in anything less than HD so why shoot in film. Fuck me if Hollywood isn't doing it all wrong these days.

Sinclair

You can always take the HD clip and down convert it to SD. A&E, History Channel, BIO and CIN are doing it right now. What you see on the SD channel is down converted MPEG2 or MPEG4 video from the HD channel.

I love the HDV look way better, but i still get more SD orders. I dont argue, i just shoot what is requested of me.:2 cents:

SD or HDV makes no difference to me, it's the same rate per scene or project even though I have to use much more light for the HDV scenes and much longer rendering and video encoding times. Most of the expense of my scenes pays for the other elements, female models, male talent, lighting, locations, photography, makeup, costumes, props, agency fees etc, not the high definition format itself.

Fiddy HD formats

my friend is a fulltime mainstream videographer. Tv,news, weather channel. He still shoots about half of his assignments with a betacam. I read an article in a video mag, that what youtube showed was people really dont give a shit about hd. They care about interesting content. I have never had a member ask for hd and Ive been doing this 10 yrs this june. There are a few interesting hd cams coming on the horizon, Im thinking about upgrading not because I have to have hd.It's because there are no more sd cams.

So Jim you have more time and money involved in shooting HD, plus a higher quality product than SD, but should charge the same? :winkwink:

Give your clients what they want, although sometimes you shoot a great looking scene and then you see it online and you wonder what happend to it?. I think unless your clients know how to process the scene it will look like crap! when it is streaming.

This is the downfall of HDV, not many people are shooting in HD, they are shooting in HDV.