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malkishooa 05-10-2009 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 15827997)
Silence is not a virtue, if you see stupidty!

i see stupidty everyday on GFY

Sausage 05-10-2009 06:35 AM

Look just give up. They are more determined than we are and there are more of them than us, its only a matter of time. It will be forced on us sooner or later. They will overtake us, they are willing to die doing it and we aren't willing to die to defend ourselves.

Templar 05-10-2009 06:51 AM

Dictators have always relied on what Lenin called "useful idiots" and the Western world is just FULL of them. Instead of identifying and dealing with a real threat to our liberty and democracy the useful idiot will cry "racism", "hate", "bigotry" and then make some asinine moral equivalency argument about an evil that a western country may have performed 200 years ago!! If Muslims actually do take over a western democracy and impose Sharia law I have no doubt that the last words of the "useful idiots" in that country will be "We deserve it..." and be relieved that at least they aren't being beheaded by evil, bigoted, white westerners.

Labeling as "racist" those who are concerned about the very real threat of Islamofascist expansion is as RIDICULOUS as labeling someone racist for being concerned with the spread of Nazism in 30s!

ThumbLord 05-10-2009 09:47 AM

the exact date would be probably 12-21-2012

ilbb 05-10-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 15816963)
Say goodbye to freedom, maybe not in our generation, but in the not too distant future.

open your eyes bro...there is not freedom already :( big brother is watching you

Rangermoore 05-10-2009 10:42 AM

What they said:2 cents:

AtlantisCash 05-10-2009 02:44 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8T_uAs40Aa4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NUULo...eature=related

AtlantisCash 05-10-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by webjoker (Post 15825103)

there are things a lot worse than that in the sharia.
for example if one of your kids are caught stealing candy the sharia law says to cut off one if their hands.
did you even steal anything in your life as a child ?


where do You get Your sources?

for Islamic sharia, if the person is poor and hungry and stole something to eat he/she won't get punished,

for clarifying this, there's a limit government can determine, if that's above the rate he/she will get punished, otherwise not.

btw. government can not do this out of their asses, it depends some factors :2 cents::thumbsup

AtlantisCash 05-10-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 15827997)
Donīt mix ideology (ex. religion) with race... you canīt choose your race, but you can choose your ideology! So of course you should mock irrational ideology (ex. Islam), like you should point out, if people are doing something stupid.

Silence is not a virtue, if you see stupidity!


but there must be a line that separates the people's stupidity and religion it self or even though they believe in the same religion the difference between proper people and jackasses right? :2 cents:

AtlantisCash 05-10-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15825509)
of course! :) this is just pixels on a monitor. i have always wanted to go to Isreal but never made it. i made plans a few times to go to turkey when i was living in Russia just because so many Russians go there and it was cheap but never did. My wife went there with her mother a couple years ago. i love world history and Turkey (the region anyway) has certainly has a prominent role in the last couple thousand years in shaping history in the area and beyond.


lm know when ever You plan visiting Istanbul, we can have a few drinks together :thumbsup

AtlantisCash 05-10-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sukiho (Post 15826522)
I wouldnt worry, adults never assimilate but the kids do


thats what some people don't understand, for example: even here in Tr, there are a few difference between older and some people in Younger generations all though i don't like it in some ways.

topnotch, standup guy 05-10-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by webjoker (Post 15825110)

not to mention you might have to send one of your kids to blow them self up as a "shahid" for crazy reasons that you don't completely believe in and in the name of Alla

And then, there's this :disgust

cykoe6 05-10-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Templar (Post 15839115)
Dictators have always relied on what Lenin called "useful idiots" and the Western world is just FULL of them. Instead of identifying and dealing with a real threat to our liberty and democracy the useful idiot will cry "racism", "hate", "bigotry" and then make some asinine moral equivalency argument about an evil that a western country may have performed 200 years ago!! If Muslims actually do take over a western democracy and impose Sharia law I have no doubt that the last words of the "useful idiots" in that country will be "We deserve it..." and be relieved that at least they aren't being beheaded by evil, bigoted, white westerners.

Labeling as "racist" those who are concerned about the very real threat of Islamofascist expansion is as RIDICULOUS as labeling someone racist for being concerned with the spread of Nazism in 30s!

Very well said. :thumbsup

dig420 05-10-2009 04:26 PM

When are right-wingers going to realize that they're absolutely wrong about virtually everything they choose to have an ill-informed opinion about?

AtlantisCash 05-10-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 15839934)
And then, there's this :disgust


some of You people are amazing, you don't even read carefully what You post;

"in truth, it is not even mentioned in the Koran, and only ambiguously in the Hadith (a collection of oral traditions about the life of the prophet Mohammed)."

TheDoc 05-10-2009 04:40 PM


Badmaash 05-10-2009 04:47 PM

I was watching a program on Da Vinci Code and was quite suprised that even back in the days Muslims were trying to conquer Europe but could not do it due to the Templar Knights

You guys have got the wrong end of the stick about how you feel Sharai Law will prevale and you will have everyone living under Islamic law. From what I have heard, elements of SHaria law will be implemented within UK law to help solve disputes amongts Muslims at a domestic level. These laws will not be incorporated for the entirew population just Muslims. An example of a slightly different priciple is with new banks in UK or facilities availble in exsiting banks that do not give iterest on money held in a bank and this is know as funnily 'Halal banking'

Western laws will not be changed to Islamic law unless the West is fully conquered by some sort of state of the art Islamic army and that will not happen in a million years...

Peace to all.

Pleasurepays 05-10-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 15839975)
When are right-wingers going to realize that they're absolutely wrong about virtually everything they choose to have an ill-informed opinion about?

about the same time you realize you are more extreme in your views than those who oppose your views are.

... what does "right wing" have to do with rapidly shifting demographics and birth rates?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bossman 05-10-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 15839883)
but there must be a line that separates the people's stupidity and religion it self or even though they believe in the same religion the difference between proper people and jackasses right? :2 cents:

Irrational ideas are still irrational - no matter who belives in them. Sure you can divide irrational ideas into how harmful they are, and treat them accordingly, but it doesnīt free you from pointing out and/or mocking the stupidity, if you see yourself as part of a community.

Community means you are sharing an environment, where your ideas and actions are affecting the identity of the participants, so it does matter if the ideas and actions are based on irrationality (illogical) or rationality (logical).

An irrational environment creates irrational people, which ends up segregating the community into weaker and weaker communities, because there is no rational for the differences (just look at the stand still of Islam, with all its different branches of Islam).

A rational environment creates rational people, which creates stronger communities, because there is a rational for the differences (just look at the achievements in science, since the scientific method was adopted by the scientific community).

As a human you do have a choice here in life - you can go by instinct, and keep wandering around in the same darkness generations before you did, or you can use your intellect and build a brighter future for you and the generations ahead of you...

Of course you can also choose to do nothing, which will just mean religion (ideology) will end in racial segregation:


AtlantisCash 05-10-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 15840058)
Irrational ideas are still irrational - no matter who belives in them. Sure you can divide irrational ideas into how harmful they are, and treat them accordingly, but it doesnīt free you from pointing out and/or mocking the stupidity, if you see yourself as part of a community.

Community means you are sharing an environment, where your ideas and actions are affecting the identity of the participants, so it does matter if the ideas and actions are based on irrationality (illogical) or rationality (logical).

An irrational environment creates irrational people, which ends up segregating the community into weaker and weaker communities, because there is no rational for the differences (just look at the stand still of Islam, with all its different branches of Islam).

A rational environment creates rational people, which creates stronger communities, because there is a rational for the differences (just look at the achievements in science, since the scientific method was adopted by the scientific community).

As a human you do have a choice here in life - you can go by instinct, and keep wandering around in the same darkness generations before you did, or you can use your intellect and build a brighter future for you and the generations ahead of you...

Of course you can also choose to do nothing, which will just mean religion (ideology) will end in racial segregation:



Thanks for the detailed reply, but what i said breethly, don't generalize people, do not stereotype them, hate brings hate, nothing more, plain and simple :2 cents:

David! 05-10-2009 06:34 PM

100 for Mustafah...

escorpio 05-10-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DrChango (Post 15817235)
it's disturbing that I see so much mention of UK laws and regulations being adopted to cater to Muslim immigrants that seem to not even like their new country. We have a problem with that in the American border states (whole neighborhoods in town have all the signs in Spanish, some public schools are run purely in Spanish but are billed as "English as a second language" schools).
My grandmother emigrated to the United States in the fifties (her father was German, her mother Nicaraguan...English was her third language) and you gotta hear her thoughts on people not learning the local language and adapting to local laws and customs.

Why do you have a Spanish nick if you feel Spanish is a problem?

Snake Doctor 05-10-2009 06:56 PM

I took April 27th, 2011 in the office pool, so if it's any later than that I'm gonna lose my $10.

AtlantisCash 05-10-2009 06:56 PM

btw. i don't think it is good to call irrational any idea You don't agree with, For example: for a religious person atheism could be irrational and religions or existence of GOD could be irrational for an atheist person, if You just call it irrational within looking horse glasses, it means you're creating an other fundamentalism.

in fundamentalism one of the main behave is prejudice no matter if the group is Christian, Judaist, Agnostic, Atheist or Muslim or what so ever..

voa 05-11-2009 12:50 AM

i guess in next 5 years

Bossman 05-11-2009 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 15840184)
btw. i don't think it is good to call irrational any idea You don't agree with, For example: for a religious person atheism could be irrational and religions or existence of GOD could be irrational for an atheist person, if You just call it irrational within looking horse glasses, it means you're creating an other fundamentalism.

in fundamentalism one of the main behave is prejudice no matter if the group is Christian, Judaist, Agnostic, Atheist or Muslim or what so ever..

Religious persons who claim there is a God, and that the God has a set of rules which governs everything/everybody, purely based on anecdotal/hearsay evidence are irrational, because they provide no logic way to validate their claim (ex. scientific evidence)... it simple a matter of belief in which a the religious persons hold their premise to be true - without the use of logic, which makes them irrational (illogical).

An atheist or agnostic does not make a claim that something exist, which makes them rational when using logic (they do not have to prove the existens of a negative, since it does not exist).

The religious persons are introducing religion into the community/society - they are the ones making a statement that God exist, so its up to them to prove they are rational or else everyone could claim everything based on nothing (ex. my little finger is the ruler of all Gods etc.).

DraX 05-11-2009 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15816398)
Btw. let me mention an example,

Again, please don't consider me xenophobic, I might sound like that time from time, considering my personal, very negative experience with the minority I will mention, but in general I try to fight every prejudice and rely on case by case judgment.

Former Czechoslovakia used to have less than 1000 gypsy citizens in 1945 (also due to certain practicies between 1939 - 45).

These days - it's about 500 000 (can't be counted) which accounts for about 5 pct. of population with these specifics:

- 95 pct. unemployed
- most of them do not speak the language
- families with 10 and more kids are not rare and cashing the most welfare checks
- massive abuse of the social system
- increased criminality where they are local, a person without a criminal record is rather rare

They're trying to throw more money on the problem, which will never work.

Those fucking gypsis are doing the same thing in every country, it's fucking unbelievable. States are throwing money at them to give them a chance, ha what chance, they don't wan't to work. They wan't welfare, move on with their criminality and show everyone else the finger!

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15819959)
Simple solution really

A) reduce immigration by 90% especially from muslims countries

B) end your welfare states. Give them one less reason to come to your country.

C) encourage natives to breed.

By the way some of you are talking maybe you should have let Hitler do his thing. You sure wouldn't be having any problems with Muslim immigration now if the Germans had won the war now would you?

Then we all would have speaken German. Ahhh, those were the days. Ein Bier Bitte!

Pleasurepays 05-11-2009 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 15840184)
btw. i don't think it is good to call irrational any idea You don't agree with, For example: for a religious person atheism could be irrational and religions or existence of GOD could be irrational for an atheist person, if You just call it irrational within looking horse glasses, it means you're creating an other fundamentalism.

in fundamentalism one of the main behave is prejudice no matter if the group is Christian, Judaist, Agnostic, Atheist or Muslim or what so ever..

What is interesting about beliefs is that its based on numbers more than anything else. In other words, the more people believe something (in terms of numbers), the more correct and right, that belief becomes.

Fundamentalism is typically defined as a strict adherence to a very narrowly defined and strict set of beliefs. stepping back and saying "that's not rational" isn't by definition, fundamentalist in nature.

I think a common difference between Islam and other larger world religions is that although each might privately profess to believe their way is the only way, Islam is the one that openly says that as a basic tenet of their beliefs. Islam is the one burning down buildings and rioting because of a cartoon. Islam is the one with people filling the streets, shooting guns into the air to celebrate a suicide bombing. Islam is the one kidnapping and cutting the heads off journalists and so on. Islam is the one fighting battles in the middle east to impose Sharia Law. Islam is the face of terrorism in the world right now.

Islam in my view, has a much deserved image problem.

I don't have anything against anyone's religion or beliefs. I personally don't care. Believing in God or something similar is no more or less rational than any other set of beliefs we cling to as we innately struggle to find some purpose in life. People believe in big foot or that the government is reading their thoughts or whatever. Unless those beliefs are driven by schizophrenia or some psychological disorder, then they are no more or less rational than the idea that someone showed up one day and turned water into wine, walked through fire etc.

Personally, i think EU/US will get what they deserve. If immigrants can move into a country, refuse to assimilate and eventually take it over because they become the majority.. then good for them. They won fair and square. I also think it will happen in most of the world. Islam will ultimately win over other religions because by its own nature, demands it does win.


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