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Look just give up. They are more determined than we are and there are more of them than us, its only a matter of time. It will be forced on us sooner or later. They will overtake us, they are willing to die doing it and we aren't willing to die to defend ourselves.
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Dictators have always relied on what Lenin called "useful idiots" and the Western world is just FULL of them. Instead of identifying and dealing with a real threat to our liberty and democracy the useful idiot will cry "racism", "hate", "bigotry" and then make some asinine moral equivalency argument about an evil that a western country may have performed 200 years ago!! If Muslims actually do take over a western democracy and impose Sharia law I have no doubt that the last words of the "useful idiots" in that country will be "We deserve it..." and be relieved that at least they aren't being beheaded by evil, bigoted, white westerners.
Labeling as "racist" those who are concerned about the very real threat of Islamofascist expansion is as RIDICULOUS as labeling someone racist for being concerned with the spread of Nazism in 30s! |
the exact date would be probably 12-21-2012
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What they said:2 cents:
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where do You get Your sources? for Islamic sharia, if the person is poor and hungry and stole something to eat he/she won't get punished, for clarifying this, there's a limit government can determine, if that's above the rate he/she will get punished, otherwise not. btw. government can not do this out of their asses, it depends some factors :2 cents::thumbsup |
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but there must be a line that separates the people's stupidity and religion it self or even though they believe in the same religion the difference between proper people and jackasses right? :2 cents: |
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lm know when ever You plan visiting Istanbul, we can have a few drinks together :thumbsup |
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thats what some people don't understand, for example: even here in Tr, there are a few difference between older and some people in Younger generations all though i don't like it in some ways. |
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When are right-wingers going to realize that they're absolutely wrong about virtually everything they choose to have an ill-informed opinion about?
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some of You people are amazing, you don't even read carefully what You post; "in truth, it is not even mentioned in the Koran, and only ambiguously in the Hadith (a collection of oral traditions about the life of the prophet Mohammed)." |
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I was watching a program on Da Vinci Code and was quite suprised that even back in the days Muslims were trying to conquer Europe but could not do it due to the Templar Knights
You guys have got the wrong end of the stick about how you feel Sharai Law will prevale and you will have everyone living under Islamic law. From what I have heard, elements of SHaria law will be implemented within UK law to help solve disputes amongts Muslims at a domestic level. These laws will not be incorporated for the entirew population just Muslims. An example of a slightly different priciple is with new banks in UK or facilities availble in exsiting banks that do not give iterest on money held in a bank and this is know as funnily 'Halal banking' Western laws will not be changed to Islamic law unless the West is fully conquered by some sort of state of the art Islamic army and that will not happen in a million years... Peace to all. |
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... what does "right wing" have to do with rapidly shifting demographics and birth rates? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
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Community means you are sharing an environment, where your ideas and actions are affecting the identity of the participants, so it does matter if the ideas and actions are based on irrationality (illogical) or rationality (logical). An irrational environment creates irrational people, which ends up segregating the community into weaker and weaker communities, because there is no rational for the differences (just look at the stand still of Islam, with all its different branches of Islam). A rational environment creates rational people, which creates stronger communities, because there is a rational for the differences (just look at the achievements in science, since the scientific method was adopted by the scientific community). As a human you do have a choice here in life - you can go by instinct, and keep wandering around in the same darkness generations before you did, or you can use your intellect and build a brighter future for you and the generations ahead of you... Of course you can also choose to do nothing, which will just mean religion (ideology) will end in racial segregation: |
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Thanks for the detailed reply, but what i said breethly, don't generalize people, do not stereotype them, hate brings hate, nothing more, plain and simple :2 cents: |
100 for Mustafah...
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I took April 27th, 2011 in the office pool, so if it's any later than that I'm gonna lose my $10.
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btw. i don't think it is good to call irrational any idea You don't agree with, For example: for a religious person atheism could be irrational and religions or existence of GOD could be irrational for an atheist person, if You just call it irrational within looking horse glasses, it means you're creating an other fundamentalism.
in fundamentalism one of the main behave is prejudice no matter if the group is Christian, Judaist, Agnostic, Atheist or Muslim or what so ever.. |
i guess in next 5 years
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An atheist or agnostic does not make a claim that something exist, which makes them rational when using logic (they do not have to prove the existens of a negative, since it does not exist). The religious persons are introducing religion into the community/society - they are the ones making a statement that God exist, so its up to them to prove they are rational or else everyone could claim everything based on nothing (ex. my little finger is the ruler of all Gods etc.). |
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Fundamentalism is typically defined as a strict adherence to a very narrowly defined and strict set of beliefs. stepping back and saying "that's not rational" isn't by definition, fundamentalist in nature. I think a common difference between Islam and other larger world religions is that although each might privately profess to believe their way is the only way, Islam is the one that openly says that as a basic tenet of their beliefs. Islam is the one burning down buildings and rioting because of a cartoon. Islam is the one with people filling the streets, shooting guns into the air to celebrate a suicide bombing. Islam is the one kidnapping and cutting the heads off journalists and so on. Islam is the one fighting battles in the middle east to impose Sharia Law. Islam is the face of terrorism in the world right now. Islam in my view, has a much deserved image problem. I don't have anything against anyone's religion or beliefs. I personally don't care. Believing in God or something similar is no more or less rational than any other set of beliefs we cling to as we innately struggle to find some purpose in life. People believe in big foot or that the government is reading their thoughts or whatever. Unless those beliefs are driven by schizophrenia or some psychological disorder, then they are no more or less rational than the idea that someone showed up one day and turned water into wine, walked through fire etc. Personally, i think EU/US will get what they deserve. If immigrants can move into a country, refuse to assimilate and eventually take it over because they become the majority.. then good for them. They won fair and square. I also think it will happen in most of the world. Islam will ultimately win over other religions because by its own nature, demands it does win. |
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