Yeah, because I've never traveled outside of the US.

I've been to a dozen countries in Europe, Mexico, and Canada. I remember it was the strangest thing to me. The first thing I noticed about the population in Europe is there were no blacks. And no Asians. In the mean time, you have Muslims in France rioting every other month.

Go figure.

As for "border jumping Mexicans", if your here legally, fine. I live in Northern California and obviously have a huge Hispanic population. (It's really odd when you go to Panda Express and you have a Hispanic taking your order.) While there will always be discrimination on some level, generally speaking they are accepted.

If your here illegally, your breaking the law and your criminal. It's not a matter of race, it's a matter of you fucking up my country by not paying taxes and then pulling benefits my taxes have paid for.

Cool :thumbsup

The US should be number 1, but they've let shit slide.

- Health care is better in most western countries for the average person than in the US. Mostly in the sense most citizens in western nations have full access to health care. In the US of course, this is not so. I'm more than sure the US has the best medical facilities, doctors, training etc. It's just a shame such a massive percentage of Americans will never have access to it.

- Less violent crime in most other western countries. Some NRA types will nickel and dime me on some twisted statistics but ask anyone where they'd feel safest living. I doubt anybody with reasonable travel experience would name any US cities.

- More religious = more primitive. The percentage of non religious people in western nations is growing fast, and for a good, scientific reason. In many large parts of the US this is not true.

- Dirty ass streets. Americans like to litter it seems. Either that or they don't have the money to clean it up, and that should say something if true. Or the fact they are litterbugs is at least indicative of a lack of education somewhere along the line, or even lack of pride in ones neighbourhood, or city or country even, and then you have to ask why that is.

- Education system too US centric. Take out most of that boring ass, useless civil war history and replace it with world geography and more emphasis on a foreign language. Should be sending US citizens globe trotting for friends and pursuing peaceful business opportunities, not just as soldiers protecting archaic energy management systems or dumb tourists at English only resorts looking like assholes. I know non Brit Europeans who speak better English than I do, and thats on top of their mother language and often a third or fourth to go with it. Who do you think makes the contacts and gets the better business when they're able to speak the languages of that many more markets?

The US has the resources to be number one, and it would be nice to see it happen, but they can't do this if they always think they are number 1 when they no longer are. They need something to strive against. No nation is perfect, but these days there are a number of countries closer to it than the US is. America is a big, beautiful country, much of it with beautiful weather and a lot of good people to go with it. It's a real shame the government has been resting on its laurels for so long it hasn't realized they're no longer on top. Americans are being sold short and its kind of sad to watch.

If you think the USA is the best country in the world, I suggest you travel outside for a while, gain some perspective, and then re-affirm that decision......

Perspective is everything.

Neither of the two previous posters gave up a place that did rank higher, why? Also would help to explain why.

DougE your post could be ripped apart since it is very location based and slanted to a few select areas in the US with each negative you posted. Only one you may have a semi fair point on is the school system.

I agree.

Rank higher according to what criteria? There is no objective standard for the "best" country, it's all subjective. The "best" country in the world is the one you want to live in. These threads are pointless.

Actually, since you asked, there are several places that I would rather live if I didn't have so many connections here in Austin. I may even retire to one:

Shikanoshima (Fukuoka, Japan)

St. Micheal, Paris

Somewhere in Thailand outside of Bangkok.

Den Helder, Netherlands

to name a few.....

You are mostly naming cities unless by chance you are willing to state that Japan, France, Thailand, and the Netherlands all should out rank the US overall. Unless of course we can breakdown the US by state/county/city as well for overall ranking.

Yes, these are places in countries...but, they have qualities that I have not found in this country that make them ideal for me. While each is different, I have not found similar places in this country AT ALL...

The United States is still a British Colony

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/bcolony.htm

It is, minus the health care...

I bow to your world view. Now knowing that both the Nazis and the Americans were the closest to building nukes back then let me repeat myself.


:2 cents:

This is a joke, right?

Bush told me.

You seriously think the poor immigrant risking their life to earn some money for their family is "fucking up your country" worse than the AMERICAN CITIZEN giving them a job illegally? They don't just come and work for nobody, they come and get hired by an American company, purposely looking to hire ILLEGAL workers.

Your argument is like blaming the drug addicts instead of the drug dealers?

So that's a yes, you'd have preferred the Nazis had been first? Interesting take.

Seriously, you're comparing a country that wanted to save the world from nazis and their dictators to one that wanted to take over and oppress the world. Pardon me if I don't bow to your rather uberly skewed world view.

:2 cents: <-- right back at you.

Who cares actually? :2 cents:

An absolutely pointless suggestion. For example, Russia is the 2nd biggest world country which is getting sieged by millions of illegal immigrants every year. So is it a reason to call my country the world best one just depending on the amount of immigrants we have there?

Hope you've got my point...

Huh? I've travelled throughout the USA very extensively, including several cross-country road trips, more plane trips than I can count, and I even took a round trip greyhound trip from Toronto to Mexico City (3.5 days each way).

I have yet to see a Canadian town or city that comes CLOSE to the ghettos that I've experienced in my travels throughout the USA. Not even close. We don't really have boarded up houses, let alone whole blocks of them. We don't have houses riddled with bulletholes, let alone whole blocks of them. I have yet to see graffiti drawn on a house in Canada. We can politely wave at our police, and get a wave back. They don't think we're "mocking" them.

Baltimore was the absolute armpit as far as I've seen, Buffalo can't hold a candle to Baltimore.. That city is like 2 square blocks of nice hotels and restaurants, and then GHETTO. The whole fucking place.

Actually what I'm saying and rather clearly so if you ask me is that any country that spends so much time, money and other resources into inventing nukes or any WMD's for that matter can't claim to be the best country in the world. But I guess you missed that point in your rush to be right.

+1 :2 cents:

It's all relative anyway. If you ask a Japanese man born and raised in Japan, what the best country in the world is, he's probably going to say Japan. If you ask an American who has not traveled much what the best country is, America. If you ask a German who lives in Germany the best country... wanna guess? Germany.

For me, it's GREAT, but it's not the best.


America... fuck ya! :thumbsup

Delusions.

:helpme You didn't look in the right areas I suppose. Perhaps those races stay out of tourist hot spots.

Africans POUR into parts of Europe, with France and Spain probably having the largest amount. The Chinese are everywhere as well.

There are close to 200 countries in this world, to say you have visited a dozen of them and then make a claim that one of that dozen is the best, is a flawed answer.

USA is not the only country like this :2 cents:

With re to being accepting :1orglaugh You're kidding right?

@ OP - we all love our own countries, no one country is better than another, different but not better.

Anyone that thinks the US isn't one of the best countries in the world has probably never lived in a 3rd world cesspool shithole country full of government level corruption, violation of human rights, extortion, blackmail, lack of economic opportunity and with little or no regard for liberty or justice.

Agreed! :thumbsup

meh, i kinda like the filth third world provides..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Your sentence is very nice but saying "how many of these Muslims committed terrorist acts" isn't nice of You i guess, believe me,when the day Your government didn't want it, even one terrorist can not move his finger to pull the trigger.

if we talk about terrorism, both sides are hurting Each other one way or an other, the one just wears military uniform and called army :thumbsup

Peace.

it speaks volumes when the one post that had any logic in it flew by the others.
So quoting it for a couple centimes d'euros.

:thumbsup

I see perfectly what you're saying and understand the point you're attempting to put forth, but you obvously aren't getting what I'm saying, but possibly I am the one who hasn't spelled it out clearly enough. I'm saying your argument is ridiculous when the entire picture of the historic period of nuclear capablity is considered. If Germany had of built a working a-bomb first, what do you think would have happened to the world?

I'm saying the US had to come up with one first, and in order to preserve their way of life they also HAVE to stay on top of military technology, or I'm sure the have-not's and the dreaded axisofevil-onians of the world would have attacked them long ago.

It isn't the smog over LA or the statue of Liberty that protects America.

Hey, I'm not agreeing with the OP that it's the "best" country in the world, but I certainly am saying that they are definitely willing to defend the freedoms they do have and their way of life. You're saying no country that puts that much money into weapons development can be the best. I'm saying you are wrong. Being the best often means what you have is worth defending, and how does a country have defensive capability? Oh that's right...... via a MILITARY. WEAPONS. Hello?

Rush to be right. yeah. Nothing but time here friend. Take as long as you need to understand what I'm telling you. :thumbsup

Ugh???

The a-bomb was creating in a wartime environment while a madman was murdering millions of innocent people and the fucking world was turned upside down.

Does WW2 Ring a bell?

Fucking idiot

Canada has faults as well, but we didn't start a thread sticking our own noses up our own assholes.


Americans have a false view of their own country. You can't even keep on one fucking topic in a thread, your focus and egos can't handle it. You need to search for a false hope just to live another day in your pill popping sad lives. This doesn't apply to all of you, but god damn, the world is laughing at you for your decade of mistakes and all you do is blame each other and start threads like this trying to convince each other how great you are. Your parents and grand parents are embarrassed by you. Shut your mouths and start actually doing something with your lazy pathetic lives, you are not the best country in the world, there are more degrees of rating yourself than being able to blow up shit and thinking you have diversity.

is it...?

nooo.... Serbia is much much better :D

Just as many try to get into the EU.. So that doesn't really mean anything.

Then you were in the wrong country, Auschwitz is in Poland.

Ignorance runs rampant in GFY, telling an Asian he's thinks the country that he's fought for doesn't have diversity is laughable.

I've lived in Canada, I've been treated like a second class citizen in Canada, I've seen neighborhoods in Vancouver that rival any drug infested hood in the USA.

As for diversity, my parents came to this country as legal Immigrants. They started in a one bedroom with two kids, worked hard, and lived the American Dream. Telling me, an Immigrant that came from a 3rd world country, that my views are skewed or wrong about the USA, means absolutely nothing to me.

So go ahead and default back to the usual retort of how you all burned down our white house.

He never said he was doing the tourist thing in Germany, re read his post.

I'll refrain from posting up pictures of Nazi Concentration Camps.

Why were Jews, Gypsys, and others shoved into a train and shipped off to concentration camps by the Nazis?

Hrrmmmm.. Lots of Mexican Hate going on lately.

Too much. Attention is NOT being given to the idiots in government who made the environment the way it is.

Did you even read the title of this thread? Go away little child and learn to spell properly.


See I insulted you without using a single swear word :winkwink:

Hey I never said that people or nations don't have a right to defend themselves but you'll notice the only time nuclear weapons have actually been used was to attack Japan. So you're probably going to say that it saved thousands of American lives and shortened the war by months and completely ignore the facts that Japan was on its knees by that time and that the American government knew that the Soviets would soon have the bomb too and they needed to be shown that America wasn't afraid to use nukes.

That's awesome, respek :pimp:1orglaugh:1orglaugh