drink themselves stupid and get collected off the streets in the morning and tossed into trucks before or after they freeze to death. That is a tragedy, but I guess not of epic proportions.

"Ad Astra Per Aspera"

you need to understand russian soul

I have been hearing that bullshit for years. Like I need to understand the Somalian soul or the Finnish soul or the English soul. It is still no excuse for bad behaviour. Do you think you understand the Russian Soul of Putin, the toughest most dangerous gangster thug on the planet. Do you understand the soul of the KGB and the gulag. Please enlighten us on how the Russian soul is a good thing when they poison foreign politicians and cut off necessary gas in a bitter winter to the Ukraine and threaten Europe with the same. Enlighten us please with your depth of knowledge of the Russian soul and remember this is a country where the native Russians call Georgians hahahahahahas. Over to you.

I get so tired of hearing this "Russian soul" shit. or having Russians explain how they are just so much deeper intellectually than the rest of the world. You know what it means? you don't need to be Pushkin to understand it... in its practical application, it means you have a free license to bitch and complain to any fucking random stranger about every problem you've ever had in your life and problems you think you might have and problems you've made up just to feel like you have as many problems as the next guy.

asking someone "how are you" is something you learn early on not to do in Russia.

I lived in Russia for 10 years. I listened to enough complaining and bitching and did enough arguing to last 100 lifetimes.

Russians on the whole are depressing and negative. Life in Russia is hard for sure... but Russians make it totally unbearable.

The only thing more obnoxious than listening to a Russian bitch and complain about every fucking thing under the sun is listening to them give you advice about anything and everything, even when they have no clue what you OR they themselves are talking about.

Russian communities in the US are generally divided into two groups... Russians and Russians who think Russian are depressing, obnoxious idiots and won't associate with them.

:2 cents:

I only had three years in Russia and I fully agree. They quote more than they actually speak. A Russian can quote you to death, usually to the weeping strains of maudlin music as they get drunk

NAZISM (there is one "i") is about NATION. I.e. exactly what you are trying to do: to blame the whole RUSSIAN NATION (there is a such definition). And yes, it's really moronic to be a Nazi :2 cents:

Ohh i have this with Nigerians way more then Russians
but on ICQ Russians certainly have a monopoly

Soul of KGB agent Vladimir Putin, mind of CIA boss George Bush Sr., conscience of bloody dictator Joseph Stalin, mercy of serial child/women-killer Harry Truman etc... You are trying to judge the nation by their "leaders"? You are sooooo pathetic.

The Nazis were a party. The National Socialist Party to be exact. Far from Socialist as you can get but not far off Nationalist. Now I don't care if you spell Naziism with one or two i's that is up to you since it is a German word, I would doubt there is a correct spelling. But dig away. The fact is since the Communist party went tits up, that would leave the Russians to stand up as an independant nation and they do have a rough edge and have a burning desire to be great again. However, they do it by bullying and are a truly racist country. Like I tried to say earlier they consider Georgians n-i-g-g-ers and will scream that out across streets. I have seen this because I lived in a Georgian neighborhood called Gruzinski.

Wanna determine the exact terminology? Ok, can I call you a Fascist for blaming the whole Russian nation? Is this word fits best?

What an idiot... "N-i-g-g-e-r" is an american word and it has nothing to do with Georgians. We DO NOT CALL Georgians like that. You may wonder but there is no animosity towards Georgians in Russia. Yep, no one loves Saakashvili, but as I told you above, only complete morons judge the nation by its "leaders". I know what I'm talking about. Over 300,000 Georgians are living here in Moscow only officially. BTW, Georgians and Russian have the same religion, the long time of common history, common traditions etc. Don't try to speak the things you have no idea about.

It's not 'Russian mentality' being discussed here at all, but 'scammer mentality'. Many things can turn a person into a scammer, and being poor, having a difficult life, are surely some of the major ones. There's a high majority of such people in Russia; that's true. But just because you had a few Russian scammers doesn't mean they all think that way...

ah hah, so you are a Russian.

You can call me whatever you like. Whether I choose to agree is another matter.

Yes, and entrepreneur is a French word that we use in English. What is your point? The epithet was actually "black bastard" n...was a pretty accurate translation

Total bullshit

I lived on Gruzinski Pereuluk. I have some knowledge of Georgians. Stalin (man of steel) was a Georgian.


I won't and I don't.

I hope you don't have to learn the hard way.

Russians are not scammers, they are just very limited in the type of business they can do there, as there is no paypal, no credit card processing, no paypal processing, bureaucracy and taxes are 10 times worse than USA for creating a startup company with bank accounts for the company as are the availability of startup funds considering how little they earn vs the startup costs (e.g. photo cameras and computers cost 3 times more in Russia than in USA). They're cool people just like in the USA, just forced into using non-corporate ways to get by and earn a living.

About Mafia - 18 years ago doing business in Russia was illegal and got you to jail, everything was 100% owned by state. When capitalism came _everyone_ who went into business was called Mafiya.

I was, I'm and I will. Everyone knows this actually.

I will call you what you deserved to be called. You did a Fascist statement here, so don't expect to be called somehow different.

Who are you talking about? Georgians? LOL, you must be kidding me?

My wife grown in Tbilisi, my mother in law speaks Georgian language, so what? What are you trying to tell here? Do you really think that over 300,000 Georgians will stay in Moscow if they will be called "black bastards"? Many of famous actors/singers/composers/businessmen in Russia are Georgians: brothers Miladze, Vakhtang Kikabidze, Oleg Basilashvily, Tamara Gverdciteli, Nikolay Svanidze, Zurab Tsereteli and many many other famous and respectful names.

Once again: don't try to speak the things you have no idea about. Because you look like a clown who pretending like he knows better what exactly I ate at my breakfast today.

Just your opinion and so very wrong.

Sure there are lots of Georgians in Moscow. I have tons of experience with them and my close colleagues wife was a Georgian and she would come home in tears often after being called a black bastard. So fuck off with your local knowledge (propaganda). When you figure out what the fuck a fascist is...see Putin for Cole's Notes....then you may try and make some kinda lucid comment. Please no dead american or english writer quotes. Say it all yourself. I am bored with Russian angst.

For russian mentality - they are pessimistic about future, but optimistic about present, and they sometimes have the funniest epiphanies. They also have beautiful mathematical minds and are known as the most patient negotiators in the business world.

I have not yet met a Russian scammer in the over dozen years of internet business. I have done business with many many Russians and Romanians and they have always kept their word and been men of honor. For those who have gotten scammed, there's a saying - You can never scam a honest man.

FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism. Wanna tell me something else fascist?

weekly and cyberxx, come on guys, there's no real hate between russians and georgians, you have gotten conditioned by the media manipulation over an artificial conflict created for increasing oil and gas prices. lets all be friends and do good business.

I read that and knew it anyway. So now you need to learn to read. Perhaps it is a language issue, lost in translation. It happens. When you actually understand it, then you may address the issue again. Take your time now.

Your actually wrong about that.

btw. do you guys have russian/georgian traffic? :)

lololollolol

Actually I live in Russia and I know that there is really no hate between Russians and Georgians. At least I see that around me through my own eyes, but not getting it from brainwashing TV news or from "close colleagues wives".

None are as blind as those who will not see. Sometimes it takes an outside observer to see the truth. TV news had nothing to do with it. Close colleagues were the news. I met the people you would never get close to and saw up close and personal the persecution of refusniks and have been in some pretty good conflicts with the KGB and their nil zah crap. So fuck off with your denials of racism and hatred of Georgians. That is fucking fascist. I have seen it up close from an outsiders point of view and you couldn't see the forest for the trees. Either that or you are just another apologist.

Of course it's just a language issue :1orglaugh And yes, blaming a whole nation for anything is not a Fascism at all. Right? You are very funny fuckin' idiot actually...

Ran out of gas, did we? It always happens when you are wrong. You might try and understand fascism a little better before you prattle on about it. It is an easy word to toss around, but not such an easy concept to grasp, and you have missed it. Back to the drawing board.
Paka

The National Socialist Party were socialists, but their socialism was excluding, instead of including. However they shared the same love for centralized planned economy, welfare state, and other things the averange socialist is ready to enslave or kill innocent peaceful individuals for :2 cents:

As did fascists like Mussolini (centralize planning that is). I would accept your socialist definition and stand corrected, though. Well thought out.

I've only lived there for 1 month on holiday but the most annoying arguments always started with a Russian saying "why should I suffer?"

If you hang with well educated Russians brought up well, and you earn there trust they will not scam you. They can be more loyal than americans/europeans ect.

I won't apply my understanding of Russians to the adult business since it's completely irrelevant. There are scammers from every part of the world in it.

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Now I feel fine :)

It always happens. When the going gets uncomfortable, the uncomfortable punch the owned button. Perhaps it is Russian angst.

Jesus, the worst of them all. :1orglaugh

I don't have a problem with Russians. However, I do think Russian men dress a little odd and many of the guys have funny hair cuts.

With that said, if you hear of a scam and it's not coming from Africa, it's usually coming from Russia. I'm not saying they are scammers, just saying that the bulk of the news leans in that direction.

I will also note that some of my best affiliates are Russian. I just hope they are not scamming me. :1orglaugh:winkwink:

LOL you are so funny. I would not tag all the people of certain nationality because of having bad experience with some mother fucker. I lived in Israel for last five years, and even after that I can't say that all Israelis are scams (but yeah, very many of them). Especially in first years, I got scammed many times by people, companies, and especially, the government. So, Russia isn't the worst example. There are much more examples from Nigeria and China. Whole world is a scam.

PS. My father is Russian and I truly never met someone who was more honest.

Curiosly, I lived in Jordan and Syria and never got scammed. Now Egypt, that is a whole other story. Israel, fifty fifty with the boarder guards but that is mainly just grief.

BTW, exploiting iphone apps looks a bit scammy. But its only my own opinion...

my closest partner is a ukrainian girl from canada, who also doubles as my personal trainer.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6...0722148295.jpg

i dont know the difference between russians and ukrainians but from my experiences with her and her family they are all very good peoples. anyone can get fucked over online so unless you've met them directly i wouldn't be so quick to judge the whole group

But she is not Russian. Russians come from Russia and Ukranians come from the Ukraine which was occupied by Russia. And if she is Canadian, she has probably been there for a long time and is Canadian through and through. Huge difference here.

If i were to judge about all the americans by InternetIsForPorn and weekly... brrr.... I am glad they are not like those two:)
weekly, Ukraine has never been "occupied" by Russia. Learn the subject first. And, please, don't speak about the gas again. It was the problem of Ukrainian and Russian "leaders", not the people.

well said, mang

Don't forget about our history of building "kommunism"... 20-25 years ago, I have to spent few hours in queue to buy some milk. You'll never understand the people who grown in USSR... Some of us really depressive, becouse our parents live their whole lives for USSR machine. They are gave away whole lives and now they feel like crazy when everything they fights for just collapsed in a few days of 1990 !!!
But we are fight for better future for our kids, be sure.

I think the better way to defend yourself from Russian Scammers is looking for recommendations. If You wanna try to work with some russian, ask somebody You know from russian AWM comunity about this person... As i know, here in GFY alot of russian AWM's posting and reading, but they are afraud to show it... I don't, becouse i have nothing to hide, and i proud to be russian guy...

Yes, it's hard to live here, since You don't getting some good revenue 8)))...
We have a new popular phrase something like "the money beat disasters" (Бабло побеждает Зло)

Yep, there is no difference between Russia and Ukraine. Actually there was no such a country as Ukraine before the collapse of USSR. In Russian the world "ukraine" meant "outlying districts". For example, in Ivan Grozny times, today's western Moscow outskirts was called Ukraine. So the part of Russia called "ukraine" was constantly moving to West and haven't had it's own strict borders.

As about the ppl who live in Ukraine, so there are 2 different nationalities: Poles (western Ukrainians) and Russians (Eastern Ukrainians). Furthermore, Kiev - the capital of modern Ukraine was a great RUSSIAN capital even BEFORE of Moscow (there wre 2 such a great capitals of ancient Rus: Kiev and Novgorod).

So now the Eastern part of Ukraine is mother of modern Russia (note: Kiev) and the ppl who living there are fathers modern Russians. And the territory of modern Ukraine since the Ekaterina's times was called MALOROSSIA (FYI: "Rossia: is Russia in English).

All the stupid nationalist talks about "occupation" etc are for absolutely silly people who hasn't learn the history. For anyone who want to find out more, I would recommend to read Nikolai Gogol - the greatest Ukrainian writer (one of the most famous ones in both modern Ukraine and Russia) who was witting about Ukraine (MALOROSSIA) in old Tsarist times. Especially I would recommend everyone to read his book "Taras Bulba" about war of Rossians (modern Ukrainians and Russians) against Polish occupants.

Most funny thing, that when the movie "Taras Bulba" was filmed and shown in Ukraine, some brainwashed modern teenagers was almost shocked by the last words of Taras which he said before he was burned by enemies. The (these new teenagers who haven't learn the history) were unable to believe that Nikolai Gogol put these words into the mouth of Taras Bulba. But... when they were suggested to open the ORIGINAL BOOK and read it themselves, they were shocked even more :) BTW, there is a small detail... Gogol was witting all his books only in Russian language.

What can I say about such a people? Learn your own history, because nation which doesn't learn its history will never have a future.

Oh, that idiot thought it was occupied? LOL :1orglaugh

Actually it's funny to hear that:
1) <Ukrainians and Russians are different>. Let some moron will try to say the same on any Russian-speaking webmaster board where almost a half webmasters are living in Ukraine. I would like to see how long he will suffer the kicks - hehe :)
FYI: many Russians (perhaps even a half of them) you know in adult business are Ukrainians (the people who are living in modern Ukraine). What a surprise, ah? :)
2) <Russians call Georgians with a racist American word "n-g-g-e-r">. Very interesting supposition. Let some moron will try to say the same to all these Russian men who love Tina Kandelaki (see her pics below). I mean let him try to call this Georgian woman a "n-g-g-e-r" ("backs bastard" as weekly loves to call them) in a company of Russian men... It would be funny to see how long he will stay on his legs LOL

http://news.rin.ru/photos/40335.jpg

http://www.parad-zvezd.ru/gal/tina_kadelaki/b_3.jpg

http://www.foxmovies.ru/graphics/n/31/027_025.jpg

http://forum.se-zone.ru/files/07/08/...i1_189_126.jpg

http://www.liberty.ru/var/ezwebin_si...imagelarge.jpg

http://www.interesno.name/files/imag...-kandelaki.jpg

This is why I added weekly into my ignore list. I just can't read all the nonsense written by such an idiot. GFY is a very interesting board, but only when the idiots and fascists are clustered together in a special reservation aka "ignore list", which was invented specially for them :winkwink:

good god man... whats that girls name in your sig?

The discovery or history channel had something on the history of Russia's black market/mafia/scamming. Was an interesting watch.

I'm from Russia and yes, it's a Russian mentality brought along by the serfdom of the 19th century. Russians will always have this mentality.

Not a good example....lololo.....Any moron can post a picture of a babe that has nothing to do with this....You guys are so full of shit. "its not the people, its the leaders" moron quote of the day. Nuff said about that.

But they have great Hockey players lol

Statements like this make it extremely clear that you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about. :error