I'm a Russian Jew so I think I'm the scammiest of all. :)

In all honesty, I grew up in a Russian community and although there are scammers (insurance fraud type stuff is rampant in my parents' zipcode), the vast majority are decent people. It's all about how you're raised. My parents came to America, assimilated, and raised us to work honestly for our money. My mom always asks me if what I do for work is legal, heh.

You're the good type of Russian. I'm talking about people who would never acknowledge that going to the US is a good idea. They'd rather say that americans are stupid and fat, and that living in their shitty post-soviet flat is better because they're smart.

I know a Russian Programmer that is Awesome. BUSTS his ASS and does amazing work. And so does his team. But it took him some time to find the guys he has now.

weird...every russian i have ever met and dealt with has been very honourable and fair

half the scammers are actually people from other countries who just pretend to be russian

What people say about Russians is no different from what people have been saying for years about italians and jews. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "just like an Italian, always wanting something for nothing."

Scammers come from all countries. I actually find russian culture very fascinating and have a few Russian, Ukranian and Belarusian friends. The only thing culture wise that really rubs me the wrong way is their strong sense of nationalism. They are very "us against the world", so best not to bring up politics.

Right as I said above... you are an idiot. I believe (even better to say: I know) there are many good, well-educated and clever people in America. On the other hand, people like you are the real shame for the old good US of A (if you an American for real).

I have lived and worked around Russian people exclusively for more than 10 years and I can honestly say that the best of them are cynical and vicious inbreeds who aspire to little more than street thuggery and petty thievery while the worst of them are pathetic incoherent drunks. I guess that is why I have always felt so at home amongst them. :)

My favorite line from Scarface: I only got two things in this world--my balls and my word. And I don't break them for anybody.

Naziism is not a nationality. WTF are you on about? This is just moronic.

I like the girls better.

Russians just love tragedy

It gives them a reason to drink ;-)

drink themselves stupid and get collected off the streets in the morning and tossed into trucks before or after they freeze to death. That is a tragedy, but I guess not of epic proportions.

"Ad Astra Per Aspera"

you need to understand russian soul

I have been hearing that bullshit for years. Like I need to understand the Somalian soul or the Finnish soul or the English soul. It is still no excuse for bad behaviour. Do you think you understand the Russian Soul of Putin, the toughest most dangerous gangster thug on the planet. Do you understand the soul of the KGB and the gulag. Please enlighten us on how the Russian soul is a good thing when they poison foreign politicians and cut off necessary gas in a bitter winter to the Ukraine and threaten Europe with the same. Enlighten us please with your depth of knowledge of the Russian soul and remember this is a country where the native Russians call Georgians hahahahahahas. Over to you.

I get so tired of hearing this "Russian soul" shit. or having Russians explain how they are just so much deeper intellectually than the rest of the world. You know what it means? you don't need to be Pushkin to understand it... in its practical application, it means you have a free license to bitch and complain to any fucking random stranger about every problem you've ever had in your life and problems you think you might have and problems you've made up just to feel like you have as many problems as the next guy.

asking someone "how are you" is something you learn early on not to do in Russia.

I lived in Russia for 10 years. I listened to enough complaining and bitching and did enough arguing to last 100 lifetimes.

Russians on the whole are depressing and negative. Life in Russia is hard for sure... but Russians make it totally unbearable.

The only thing more obnoxious than listening to a Russian bitch and complain about every fucking thing under the sun is listening to them give you advice about anything and everything, even when they have no clue what you OR they themselves are talking about.

Russian communities in the US are generally divided into two groups... Russians and Russians who think Russian are depressing, obnoxious idiots and won't associate with them.

:2 cents:

I only had three years in Russia and I fully agree. They quote more than they actually speak. A Russian can quote you to death, usually to the weeping strains of maudlin music as they get drunk

NAZISM (there is one "i") is about NATION. I.e. exactly what you are trying to do: to blame the whole RUSSIAN NATION (there is a such definition). And yes, it's really moronic to be a Nazi :2 cents:

Ohh i have this with Nigerians way more then Russians
but on ICQ Russians certainly have a monopoly

Soul of KGB agent Vladimir Putin, mind of CIA boss George Bush Sr., conscience of bloody dictator Joseph Stalin, mercy of serial child/women-killer Harry Truman etc... You are trying to judge the nation by their "leaders"? You are sooooo pathetic.

The Nazis were a party. The National Socialist Party to be exact. Far from Socialist as you can get but not far off Nationalist. Now I don't care if you spell Naziism with one or two i's that is up to you since it is a German word, I would doubt there is a correct spelling. But dig away. The fact is since the Communist party went tits up, that would leave the Russians to stand up as an independant nation and they do have a rough edge and have a burning desire to be great again. However, they do it by bullying and are a truly racist country. Like I tried to say earlier they consider Georgians n-i-g-g-ers and will scream that out across streets. I have seen this because I lived in a Georgian neighborhood called Gruzinski.

Wanna determine the exact terminology? Ok, can I call you a Fascist for blaming the whole Russian nation? Is this word fits best?

What an idiot... "N-i-g-g-e-r" is an american word and it has nothing to do with Georgians. We DO NOT CALL Georgians like that. You may wonder but there is no animosity towards Georgians in Russia. Yep, no one loves Saakashvili, but as I told you above, only complete morons judge the nation by its "leaders". I know what I'm talking about. Over 300,000 Georgians are living here in Moscow only officially. BTW, Georgians and Russian have the same religion, the long time of common history, common traditions etc. Don't try to speak the things you have no idea about.

It's not 'Russian mentality' being discussed here at all, but 'scammer mentality'. Many things can turn a person into a scammer, and being poor, having a difficult life, are surely some of the major ones. There's a high majority of such people in Russia; that's true. But just because you had a few Russian scammers doesn't mean they all think that way...

ah hah, so you are a Russian.

You can call me whatever you like. Whether I choose to agree is another matter.

Yes, and entrepreneur is a French word that we use in English. What is your point? The epithet was actually "black bastard" n...was a pretty accurate translation

Total bullshit

I lived on Gruzinski Pereuluk. I have some knowledge of Georgians. Stalin (man of steel) was a Georgian.


I won't and I don't.

I hope you don't have to learn the hard way.

Russians are not scammers, they are just very limited in the type of business they can do there, as there is no paypal, no credit card processing, no paypal processing, bureaucracy and taxes are 10 times worse than USA for creating a startup company with bank accounts for the company as are the availability of startup funds considering how little they earn vs the startup costs (e.g. photo cameras and computers cost 3 times more in Russia than in USA). They're cool people just like in the USA, just forced into using non-corporate ways to get by and earn a living.

About Mafia - 18 years ago doing business in Russia was illegal and got you to jail, everything was 100% owned by state. When capitalism came _everyone_ who went into business was called Mafiya.

I was, I'm and I will. Everyone knows this actually.

I will call you what you deserved to be called. You did a Fascist statement here, so don't expect to be called somehow different.

Who are you talking about? Georgians? LOL, you must be kidding me?

My wife grown in Tbilisi, my mother in law speaks Georgian language, so what? What are you trying to tell here? Do you really think that over 300,000 Georgians will stay in Moscow if they will be called "black bastards"? Many of famous actors/singers/composers/businessmen in Russia are Georgians: brothers Miladze, Vakhtang Kikabidze, Oleg Basilashvily, Tamara Gverdciteli, Nikolay Svanidze, Zurab Tsereteli and many many other famous and respectful names.

Once again: don't try to speak the things you have no idea about. Because you look like a clown who pretending like he knows better what exactly I ate at my breakfast today.

Just your opinion and so very wrong.

Sure there are lots of Georgians in Moscow. I have tons of experience with them and my close colleagues wife was a Georgian and she would come home in tears often after being called a black bastard. So fuck off with your local knowledge (propaganda). When you figure out what the fuck a fascist is...see Putin for Cole's Notes....then you may try and make some kinda lucid comment. Please no dead american or english writer quotes. Say it all yourself. I am bored with Russian angst.

For russian mentality - they are pessimistic about future, but optimistic about present, and they sometimes have the funniest epiphanies. They also have beautiful mathematical minds and are known as the most patient negotiators in the business world.

I have not yet met a Russian scammer in the over dozen years of internet business. I have done business with many many Russians and Romanians and they have always kept their word and been men of honor. For those who have gotten scammed, there's a saying - You can never scam a honest man.

FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism. Wanna tell me something else fascist?

weekly and cyberxx, come on guys, there's no real hate between russians and georgians, you have gotten conditioned by the media manipulation over an artificial conflict created for increasing oil and gas prices. lets all be friends and do good business.

I read that and knew it anyway. So now you need to learn to read. Perhaps it is a language issue, lost in translation. It happens. When you actually understand it, then you may address the issue again. Take your time now.

Your actually wrong about that.

btw. do you guys have russian/georgian traffic? :)

lololollolol

Actually I live in Russia and I know that there is really no hate between Russians and Georgians. At least I see that around me through my own eyes, but not getting it from brainwashing TV news or from "close colleagues wives".

None are as blind as those who will not see. Sometimes it takes an outside observer to see the truth. TV news had nothing to do with it. Close colleagues were the news. I met the people you would never get close to and saw up close and personal the persecution of refusniks and have been in some pretty good conflicts with the KGB and their nil zah crap. So fuck off with your denials of racism and hatred of Georgians. That is fucking fascist. I have seen it up close from an outsiders point of view and you couldn't see the forest for the trees. Either that or you are just another apologist.

Of course it's just a language issue :1orglaugh And yes, blaming a whole nation for anything is not a Fascism at all. Right? You are very funny fuckin' idiot actually...

Ran out of gas, did we? It always happens when you are wrong. You might try and understand fascism a little better before you prattle on about it. It is an easy word to toss around, but not such an easy concept to grasp, and you have missed it. Back to the drawing board.
Paka

The National Socialist Party were socialists, but their socialism was excluding, instead of including. However they shared the same love for centralized planned economy, welfare state, and other things the averange socialist is ready to enslave or kill innocent peaceful individuals for :2 cents:

As did fascists like Mussolini (centralize planning that is). I would accept your socialist definition and stand corrected, though. Well thought out.

I've only lived there for 1 month on holiday but the most annoying arguments always started with a Russian saying "why should I suffer?"

If you hang with well educated Russians brought up well, and you earn there trust they will not scam you. They can be more loyal than americans/europeans ect.

I won't apply my understanding of Russians to the adult business since it's completely irrelevant. There are scammers from every part of the world in it.