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just a punk 06-23-2009 03:59 PM

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Now I feel fine :)

weekly 06-23-2009 04:01 PM

It always happens. When the going gets uncomfortable, the uncomfortable punch the owned button. Perhaps it is Russian angst.

DWB 06-23-2009 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viki (Post 15989043)
I'm a Russian Jew so I think I'm the scammiest of all.

Jesus, the worst of them all. :1orglaugh

I don't have a problem with Russians. However, I do think Russian men dress a little odd and many of the guys have funny hair cuts.

With that said, if you hear of a scam and it's not coming from Africa, it's usually coming from Russia. I'm not saying they are scammers, just saying that the bulk of the news leans in that direction.

I will also note that some of my best affiliates are Russian. I just hope they are not scamming me. :1orglaugh:winkwink:

rvn 06-23-2009 05:26 PM

LOL you are so funny. I would not tag all the people of certain nationality because of having bad experience with some mother fucker. I lived in Israel for last five years, and even after that I can't say that all Israelis are scams (but yeah, very many of them). Especially in first years, I got scammed many times by people, companies, and especially, the government. So, Russia isn't the worst example. There are much more examples from Nigeria and China. Whole world is a scam.

PS. My father is Russian and I truly never met someone who was more honest.

weekly 06-23-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvn (Post 15990721)
LOL you are so funny. I would not tag all the people of certain nationality because of having bad experience with some mother fucker. I lived in Israel for last five years, and even after that I can't say that all Israelis are scams (but yeah, very many of them). Especially in first years, I got scammed many times by people, companies, and especially, the government. So, Russia isn't the worst example. There are much more examples from Nigeria and China. Whole world is a scam.

PS. My father is Russian and I truly never met someone who was more honest.

Curiosly, I lived in Jordan and Syria and never got scammed. Now Egypt, that is a whole other story. Israel, fifty fifty with the boarder guards but that is mainly just grief.

rvn 06-23-2009 05:51 PM

BTW, exploiting iphone apps looks a bit scammy. But its only my own opinion...

Quote:

You can't afford to finance an $800 project? weird

shimmy2 06-23-2009 06:32 PM

my closest partner is a ukrainian girl from canada, who also doubles as my personal trainer.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6...0722148295.jpg

i dont know the difference between russians and ukrainians but from my experiences with her and her family they are all very good peoples. anyone can get fucked over online so unless you've met them directly i wouldn't be so quick to judge the whole group

weekly 06-23-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 15990875)
my closest partner is a ukrainian girl from canada, who also doubles as my personal trainer.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6...0722148295.jpg

i dont know the difference between russians and ukrainians but from my experiences with her and her family they are all very good peoples. anyone can get fucked over online so unless you've met them directly i wouldn't be so quick to judge the whole group

But she is not Russian. Russians come from Russia and Ukranians come from the Ukraine which was occupied by Russia. And if she is Canadian, she has probably been there for a long time and is Canadian through and through. Huge difference here.

Ginn 06-24-2009 12:00 AM

If i were to judge about all the americans by InternetIsForPorn and weekly... brrr.... I am glad they are not like those two:)
weekly, Ukraine has never been "occupied" by Russia. Learn the subject first. And, please, don't speak about the gas again. It was the problem of Ukrainian and Russian "leaders", not the people.

Sid70 06-24-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lifer (Post 15990064)
I like the girls better.

Russians just love tragedy

It gives them a reason to drink ;-)

well said, mang

Hellfire 06-24-2009 02:48 AM

Don't forget about our history of building "kommunism"... 20-25 years ago, I have to spent few hours in queue to buy some milk. You'll never understand the people who grown in USSR... Some of us really depressive, becouse our parents live their whole lives for USSR machine. They are gave away whole lives and now they feel like crazy when everything they fights for just collapsed in a few days of 1990 !!!
But we are fight for better future for our kids, be sure.

I think the better way to defend yourself from Russian Scammers is looking for recommendations. If You wanna try to work with some russian, ask somebody You know from russian AWM comunity about this person... As i know, here in GFY alot of russian AWM's posting and reading, but they are afraud to show it... I don't, becouse i have nothing to hide, and i proud to be russian guy...

Yes, it's hard to live here, since You don't getting some good revenue 8)))...
We have a new popular phrase something like "the money beat disasters" (Бабло побеждает Зло)

just a punk 06-24-2009 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 15990875)
my closest partner is a ukrainian girl from canada, who also doubles as my personal trainer.i dont know the difference between russians and ukrainians but from my experiences with her and her family they are all very good peoples. anyone can get fucked over online so unless you've met them directly i wouldn't be so quick to judge the whole group

Yep, there is no difference between Russia and Ukraine. Actually there was no such a country as Ukraine before the collapse of USSR. In Russian the world "ukraine" meant "outlying districts". For example, in Ivan Grozny times, today's western Moscow outskirts was called Ukraine. So the part of Russia called "ukraine" was constantly moving to West and haven't had it's own strict borders.

As about the ppl who live in Ukraine, so there are 2 different nationalities: Poles (western Ukrainians) and Russians (Eastern Ukrainians). Furthermore, Kiev - the capital of modern Ukraine was a great RUSSIAN capital even BEFORE of Moscow (there wre 2 such a great capitals of ancient Rus: Kiev and Novgorod).

So now the Eastern part of Ukraine is mother of modern Russia (note: Kiev) and the ppl who living there are fathers modern Russians. And the territory of modern Ukraine since the Ekaterina's times was called MALOROSSIA (FYI: "Rossia: is Russia in English).

All the stupid nationalist talks about "occupation" etc are for absolutely silly people who hasn't learn the history. For anyone who want to find out more, I would recommend to read Nikolai Gogol - the greatest Ukrainian writer (one of the most famous ones in both modern Ukraine and Russia) who was witting about Ukraine (MALOROSSIA) in old Tsarist times. Especially I would recommend everyone to read his book "Taras Bulba" about war of Rossians (modern Ukrainians and Russians) against Polish occupants.

Most funny thing, that when the movie "Taras Bulba" was filmed and shown in Ukraine, some brainwashed modern teenagers was almost shocked by the last words of Taras which he said before he was burned by enemies. The (these new teenagers who haven't learn the history) were unable to believe that Nikolai Gogol put these words into the mouth of Taras Bulba. But... when they were suggested to open the ORIGINAL BOOK and read it themselves, they were shocked even more :) BTW, there is a small detail... Gogol was witting all his books only in Russian language.

What can I say about such a people? Learn your own history, because nation which doesn't learn its history will never have a future.

just a punk 06-24-2009 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginn (Post 15991466)
weekly, Ukraine has never been "occupied" by Russia. Learn the subject first. And, please, don't speak about the gas again. It was the problem of Ukrainian and Russian "leaders", not the people.

Oh, that idiot thought it was occupied? LOL :1orglaugh

just a punk 06-24-2009 04:36 AM

Actually it's funny to hear that:
1) <Ukrainians and Russians are different>. Let some moron will try to say the same on any Russian-speaking webmaster board where almost a half webmasters are living in Ukraine. I would like to see how long he will suffer the kicks - hehe :)
FYI: many Russians (perhaps even a half of them) you know in adult business are Ukrainians (the people who are living in modern Ukraine). What a surprise, ah? :)
2) <Russians call Georgians with a racist American word "n-g-g-e-r">. Very interesting supposition. Let some moron will try to say the same to all these Russian men who love Tina Kandelaki (see her pics below). I mean let him try to call this Georgian woman a "n-g-g-e-r" ("backs bastard" as weekly loves to call them) in a company of Russian men... It would be funny to see how long he will stay on his legs LOL

http://news.rin.ru/photos/40335.jpg

http://www.parad-zvezd.ru/gal/tina_kadelaki/b_3.jpg

http://www.foxmovies.ru/graphics/n/31/027_025.jpg

http://forum.se-zone.ru/files/07/08/...i1_189_126.jpg

http://www.liberty.ru/var/ezwebin_si...imagelarge.jpg

http://www.interesno.name/files/imag...-kandelaki.jpg

This is why I added weekly into my ignore list. I just can't read all the nonsense written by such an idiot. GFY is a very interesting board, but only when the idiots and fascists are clustered together in a special reservation aka "ignore list", which was invented specially for them :winkwink:

dav3 06-24-2009 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvn (Post 15990777)
BTW, exploiting iphone apps looks a bit scammy. But its only my own opinion...

good god man... whats that girls name in your sig?

candyflip 06-24-2009 05:40 AM

The discovery or history channel had something on the history of Russia's black market/mafia/scamming. Was an interesting watch.

The Demon 06-24-2009 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn (Post 15987358)
Am I the only one who gets this feeling that all Russians try to always scam and/or find a scam everywhere?

I do a lot of public advertising on mainstream boards, and always there is that guy from Russia who comes up and tries to spill shit all over. Trying to find/expose a scam even though he's just passing by. Or plain old trolling threads. I'm seeing less of this on GFY, but it's still here.

I speak several languages, one of which happens to be Russian. And I have couple of Russian channels on the sat, and whenever I turn them on, there's always some kind of depressing shit on there. They have a show called "Miracle Field" where people from really poor villages come to play "guess the word", competing for prizes like microwave ovens and grand-prizes like dishwashers.

Then there's a show that's all about people who lost their someones and are trying to find them. The show basically tells stories of people who got "lost", some nasty shit.

Is there something I'm not getting? Don't mean to be a troll myself and don't want to offend any comrades, this is just the tendency of Russian trolls I've been observing lately.

I'm from Russia and yes, it's a Russian mentality brought along by the serfdom of the 19th century. Russians will always have this mentality.

weekly 06-24-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15991841)
Actually it's funny to hear that:
1) <Ukrainians and Russians are different>. Let some moron will try to say the same on any Russian-speaking webmaster board where almost a half webmasters are living in Ukraine. I would like to see how long he will suffer the kicks - hehe :)
FYI: many Russians (perhaps even a half of them) you know in adult business are Ukrainians (the people who are living in modern Ukraine). What a surprise, ah? :)
2) <Russians call Georgians with a racist American word "n-g-g-e-r">. Very interesting supposition. Let some moron will try to say the same to all these Russian men who love Tina Kandelaki (see her pics below). I mean let him try to call this Georgian woman a "n-g-g-e-r" ("backs bastard" as weekly loves to call them) in a company of Russian men... It would be funny to see how long he will stay on his legs LOL

http://news.rin.ru/photos/40335.jpg

http://www.parad-zvezd.ru/gal/tina_kadelaki/b_3.jpg

http://www.foxmovies.ru/graphics/n/31/027_025.jpg

http://forum.se-zone.ru/files/07/08/...i1_189_126.jpg

http://www.liberty.ru/var/ezwebin_si...imagelarge.jpg

http://www.interesno.name/files/imag...-kandelaki.jpg

This is why I added weekly into my ignore list. I just can't read all the nonsense written by such an idiot. GFY is a very interesting board, but only when the idiots and fascists are clustered together in a special reservation aka "ignore list", which was invented specially for them :winkwink:

Not a good example....lololo.....Any moron can post a picture of a babe that has nothing to do with this....You guys are so full of shit. "its not the people, its the leaders" moron quote of the day. Nuff said about that.

mabourque 06-24-2009 08:08 AM

But they have great Hockey players lol

cykoe6 06-24-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by weekly (Post 15990900)
But she is not Russian. Russians come from Russia and Ukranians come from the Ukraine which was occupied by Russia.

Statements like this make it extremely clear that you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about. :error

just a punk 06-24-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabourque (Post 15992299)
But they have great Hockey players lol

Nope, our hockey players don't really play (because as any fascist like weekly knows - Russians can't do anything good) - they are simply cheating the opposite goalkeepers :1orglaugh

And, yeah.. the USA are using Russian rockets to reach the space orbit also because they (the rockets) just cheat the fortune and never blow up with cosmonauts aboard. As a matter of fact, they can't fly at all because they were designed by Russian mafia and assembled buy always drunk, gloomy and pessimistic Russian engineers :2 cents:

just a punk 06-24-2009 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15992315)
Statements like this make it extremely clear that you have absolutely no idea what the fuck you are talking about. :error

But he sincerely believe he has. Looks like a serious mental pathology :disgust

Pleasurepays 06-24-2009 08:24 AM

a thing about Russia and Russians that people do not understand is the impact of communism on a society. when everything is scarce... when you can't just go out a buy clothes you want, but furniture, good food etc etc etc you have to hustle to get what you need as a basic fact of survival. additionally, people steal. everyone stole from the State which was largely viewed to be exploiting them and people largely had a very adversarial relationship with the government and authority in general since both were more often the source of oppression rather than the protector of your rights or provider. stealing throughout the history of the Soviet Union was just normal. you weren't stealing from companies or real people that actually got hurt.. you were stealing from the State. the same State that was failing to provide to begin with so it became a normal thing culturally to steal.

A lot of behaviors are going away very fast as Russia moves into a more westernized society. but people fail to understand the hardships that came with the fall of Communism and the struggle that people were forced to endure and where many are still forced to fight to survive today. People outside of Russia just don't understand what it meant to suddenly have your job and any work prospect evaporate... to have your pension evaporate and to have prices all around you sky rocket for every conceivable thing... and all at the same time. its hard to think about the future, plan for the future or think about working for the future when you didn't really know what that future was going to be. if you had the chance to steal 10,000 or have a job for 1,000 a month, stealing the 10,000 makes more sense when you are watching companies come and go, not pay employees after months of promises and so on.

the situation there and culture there is very complicated. it can't be explained to someone in the west, because they can never see the situation through anything but the western prism.

but saying they don't steal or scam etc is hardly correct. lying and stealing is very much a normal thing there. ripping off the place you work for is very much a normal thing there. fucking over any one that isn't family is very much a normal thing there. saying EVERYONE behaves the same way isn't fair... saying its common and might typify the vast majority of people isn't unfair at all.

LA Mike 06-24-2009 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15987499)

LOL, I have no idea what they were saying but that video had me watching it. Kind of a cool beat to it..

Russian seems like it takes effort to speak more less try and sing. It just doesn't flow well

weekly 06-24-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabourque (Post 15992299)
But they have great Hockey players lol

Almost as good as the Canadians

weekly 06-24-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15992329)
Nope, our hockey players don't really play (because as any fascist like weekly knows - Russians can't do anything good) - they are simply cheating the opposite goalkeepers :1orglaugh

And, yeah.. the USA are using Russian rockets to reach the space orbit also because they (the rockets) just cheat the fortune and never blow up with cosmonauts aboard. As a matter of fact, they can't fly at all because they were designed by Russian mafia and assembled buy always drunk, gloomy and pessimistic Russian engineers :2 cents:

Moron alert. You just said nothing. You have obviously never been in a Zhigholi plant and watched the workers sleeping on the line. LOL. You know so little.

Sid70 06-24-2009 09:01 AM

i guess i should write a book about it. Eastern Blockers for Dummies. Feel free to epass me 1/2.

weekly 06-24-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15992343)
But he sincerely believe he has. Looks like a serious mental pathology :disgust

You know as much about mental pathology as you do about the sorry state of your own country. Blind as a bat.

weekly 06-24-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15992352)
a thing about Russia and Russians that people do not understand is the impact of communism on a society. when everything is scarce... when you can't just go out a buy clothes you want, but furniture, good food etc etc etc you have to hustle to get what you need as a basic fact of survival. additionally, people steal. everyone stole from the State which was largely viewed to be exploiting them and people largely had a very adversarial relationship with the government and authority in general since both were more often the source of oppression rather than the protector of your rights or provider. stealing throughout the history of the Soviet Union was just normal. you weren't stealing from companies or real people that actually got hurt.. you were stealing from the State. the same State that was failing to provide to begin with so it became a normal thing culturally to steal.

A lot of behaviors are going away very fast as Russia moves into a more westernized society. but people fail to understand the hardships that came with the fall of Communism and the struggle that people were forced to endure and where many are still forced to fight to survive today. People outside of Russia just don't understand what it meant to suddenly have your job and any work prospect evaporate... to have your pension evaporate and to have prices all around you sky rocket for every conceivable thing... and all at the same time. its hard to think about the future, plan for the future or think about working for the future when you didn't really know what that future was going to be. if you had the chance to steal 10,000 or have a job for 1,000 a month, stealing the 10,000 makes more sense when you are watching companies come and go, not pay employees after months of promises and so on.

the situation there and culture there is very complicated. it can't be explained to someone in the west, because they can never see the situation through anything but the western prism.

but saying they don't steal or scam etc is hardly correct. lying and stealing is very much a normal thing there. ripping off the place you work for is very much a normal thing there. fucking over any one that isn't family is very much a normal thing there. saying EVERYONE behaves the same way isn't fair... saying its common and might typify the vast majority of people isn't unfair at all.

A study was done in Vladivostok among young people a few years back. They were asked what they wanted to be when they grew up. Something like 70 per cent of the girls wanted to be hookers and 80 per cent of the boys...you guessed it...Gangsters.

weekly 06-24-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 15992486)
i guess i should write a book about it. Eastern Blockers for Dummies. Feel free to epass me 1/2.

It would be as thick as an encylopedia.

Sid70 06-24-2009 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15992352)
a thing about Russia and Russians that people do not understand is the impact of communism on a society. when everything is scarce... when you can't just go out a buy clothes you want, but furniture, good food etc etc etc you have to hustle to get what you need as a basic fact of survival. additionally, people steal. everyone stole from the State which was largely viewed to be exploiting them and people largely had a very adversarial relationship with the government and authority in general since both were more often the source of oppression rather than the protector of your rights or provider. stealing throughout the history of the Soviet Union was just normal. you weren't stealing from companies or real people that actually got hurt.. you were stealing from the State. the same State that was failing to provide to begin with so it became a normal thing culturally to steal.

A lot of behaviors are going away very fast as Russia moves into a more westernized society. but people fail to understand the hardships that came with the fall of Communism and the struggle that people were forced to endure and where many are still forced to fight to survive today. People outside of Russia just don't understand what it meant to suddenly have your job and any work prospect evaporate... to have your pension evaporate and to have prices all around you sky rocket for every conceivable thing... and all at the same time. its hard to think about the future, plan for the future or think about working for the future when you didn't really know what that future was going to be. if you had the chance to steal 10,000 or have a job for 1,000 a month, stealing the 10,000 makes more sense when you are watching companies come and go, not pay employees after months of promises and so on.

the situation there and culture there is very complicated. it can't be explained to someone in the west, because they can never see the situation through anything but the western prism.

but saying they don't steal or scam etc is hardly correct. lying and stealing is very much a normal thing there. ripping off the place you work for is very much a normal thing there. fucking over any one that isn't family is very much a normal thing there. saying EVERYONE behaves the same way isn't fair... saying its common and might typify the vast majority of people isn't unfair at all.

good read. i agree.

Sid70 06-24-2009 09:09 AM

i would add that stealing and cheating is the biggest evil, because even colombian drug dealers sale short icqs and do their bidnis more or less honestly.

Phil 06-24-2009 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 15992474)
Almost as good as the Canadians

Much better than canadians. Canadian chumps lost twice in WC and and in Olympics to mighty Russians. But you probably weren't watching, eh?

Phil 06-24-2009 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 15992511)
A study was done in Vladivostok among young people a few years back. They were asked what they wanted to be when they grew up. Something like 70 per cent of the girls wanted to be hookers and 80 per cent of the boys...you guessed it...Gangsters.


Link please or leave. Stop blowing smoke out of your ass.

just a punk 06-24-2009 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 15992516)
good read. i agree.

Agree whit what? Being Russian (actually an Ukrainian) yourself are you agree that you will be "fuckin' over any one that isn't your family"? What's about your clients then? Should they trust you if you openly agreed with all quoted above?

just a punk 06-24-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 15992538)
Link please or leave. Stop blowing smoke out of your ass.

I believe he will be able to find a link to some brainwashing news like CNN or FOX. Do you remember that poll at bbc.co.uk where they were asking Russians: "how often we eat rats" and "how often we drink cologne water"? They were absolutely serious with that. Perhaps not less than weekly ("who knows all about Russia"). There was a flashmob on Russian boards regarding the BBC poll, and we all voted for "yes, I eat rats every day" and "yes, I love to drink a cologne water" and rose both counters up to 90% or so. As we say "какой вопрос, такой и ответ" (stupid answer to a stupid question).

DWB 06-24-2009 09:29 AM

Two Russians just got caught scamming Thai banks for a lot of money. Bank hackers.

RedGlamourStudio 06-24-2009 09:31 AM

about Russian Mentality...

Map of Ukraina before "occupation" by Russia - 1654 year

http://www.krotov.info/pictures/maps/17/ukraina.jpg

Map of Ukraina after "occupation" by Russia - 1992 year

http://siriys-info.com/uploads/map/m...raine-full.gif

Map of Georgia before "occupation" by Russia - 1762 year

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...a_map_1762.jpg

Map of Georgia after "occupation" by Russia - 1992 year

http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/0808/e8/e117c037fc40.jpg

any questions? for example, can you show me map of Ireland before and after occupation by United Kingdom or Holland before and after occupation by French Republic?

Quote:

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 15992511)
A study was done in Vladivostok among young people a few years back. They were asked what they wanted to be when they grew up. Something like 70 per cent of the girls wanted to be hookers and 80 per cent of the boys...you guessed it...Gangsters.

can you show me link to original text? Any idiot can say it

Sid70 06-24-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15992552)
Agree whit what? Being Russian (actually an Ukrainian) yourself are you agree that you will be "fuckin' over any one that isn't your family"? What's about your clients then? Should they trust you if you openly agreed with all quoted above?

I am special. And i have a proven record. Trust me it wasnt easy to build. But in general, i do not respect much my own nation, morons all around.

RedGlamourStudio 06-24-2009 09:38 AM

weekly, what % of gross national product of Georgians is made by remittances the Georgian from Russia? How many Georgians "thief in law" live in Russia?


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