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SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 16060496)
In 2001 I approached Lia in high school and suggested after she turns 18 she should consider the adult biz. She in turn nodded and we went to English class together. So technically, I discovered her.

Should I point out that your were at the time soliciting to a minor as you just stated..??
That is a crime all on its own... Should have never ever discussed this type of thing with an underage person.

But i am the bad guy here... i guess

Nikki_Licks 07-13-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin-SFBucks (Post 16060458)
I would love to meet Easton one of these days. That would be a kick to be on one of those shoots. Anyone have any Easton VIP passes? Apparently they are like Mansion VIP passes!

If I happen to run into him I will ask for a pass for both of us....LOL

SBJ 07-13-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16060575)
Should I point out that your were at the time soliciting to a minor as you just stated..??
That is a crime all on its own... Should have never ever discussed this type of thing with an underage person.

But i am the bad guy here... i guess

you better go turn yourself in then cause i highly doubt you just "found" this girl the day of her 18th b-day and she agreed to shoot porn with you that same day

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16060127)


I paid Amai Miley the day she turned 18 $1500 for her very first solo shoot nubiles, she tried to rewrite the nubiles model release, we had a huge blow out cause she did not like the model release! WTF, Sign the release and get the fuck out! OR you don't get paid! She is the very first and only model to ever complain about a fucking model release during my shoots! That is the only model i have ever had a real problem with before she left my place after a shoot.


SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 16060719)
you better go turn yourself in then cause i highly doubt you just "found" this girl the day of her 18th b-day and she agreed to shoot porn with you that same day

Actually you are right about not shooting her on the day of her 18th birthday... It was a couple of days afterwards and she found me... hee hee hee Craigslist ad I put out. Saying I shot her the day she turned 18 is a word of speach.. She was 18 and a few days... ok there ya go. But never the less her BF at the time found my ad, as the guy who is posting this hate Keeping it Real hired them both for sex off cam... That is a fact!

nudecanada 07-13-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16060127)
All I can say at this point is... I know who i am and what I do. I shoot content, I do find unworthy girls sometimes who love to make lies and gossip, I also get lucky and find true sweetheart girls that i shoot for a very long time.

This is what i see happening..... I was getting girls from craigslist at one point.
They would come do a shoot and get paid, then go shoot with other shooters and then all of a sudden , I have become a bad guy, but not until after they meet and shoot with producers who have way more than me. Like I have 1995 3000GT SL and this guy has 2008 Benz, so whatever he tells that model is golden, cause he has more. Nicer car , big house show more success, so that model will side with who she feels will benefit her greater! So what does that make her..??

I shoot boy/girl... Everyone knows that! No secret! So when i speak to model for the very first time on the phone before we even meet, she knows way ahead of time that i am paying and expect boy/girl performance. That model then shows up, answering an ad that clearly states , "Looking for girls 18 to 25 who are willing to perform boy/girl sex on video", she performs without hesitation, gets paid then leaves. Only for me to hear
how unprofessional I am for being the Camera man and talent or something stupid, because these NEW girls that I only shoot have no idea about POV. 40 something % of LA porn is all POV!! Why is that us in AZ get a bad rap for doing POV..?? Its ok for LA or Hollywood to do it, it is the way..lol OMG!!

I pay these girls , $1000 for SDA / $1200 for nubiles / $1000 to $2000 for FTV
These girls make more than I do for christ sake!! Why am i the bad guy here???
I paid Amai Miley the day she turned 18 $1500 for her very first solo shoot nubiles, she tried to rewrite the nubiles model release, we had a huge blow out cause she did not like the model release! WTF, Sign the release and get the fuck out! OR you don't get paid! She is the very first and only model to ever complain about a fucking model release during my shoots! That is the only model i have ever had a real problem with before she left my place after a shoot.

All the other models are influenced by other hater shooters. I have nothing to hide from anyone. I shoot good content, i deliver content. I will not deal with Craigslist tweakers anymore. I will only handpick them from ASU in person, fresh hot girls NO drug users!

People I found Lia19 , Remember??? I found several girls in this biz, how easily we all forget that i find the best talents for everyone to make money by...

If you let this guy Keeping it real , win I can go away and not bring anymore girls to the biz. I have been in the shadows bringing girls and you have not even known it for the longest time. I have been finding girls since 1995. Now I am known due to me launching my very own website. When I launched my site all the haters came forth.

When i was just a shooter for FTV and nubiles, Rob use to tell me that there are so many haters in this biz, you gotta watch out, I was thinking ok, everyone is out to get Rob ...lol
But now that I have my own site , I now feel what he goes through on a daily basis.
I am sorry Rob I doubted you for a second. You are so right! There are so many cut throats in this biz.

So again.... I am just a small guy trying to make great content for everyone and my site as well.... There is the truth.. You all have it now.....

You sound like that egotistical nobody Peter Romero/Roy Garcia. :2 cents:

lazycash 07-13-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16060575)
Should I point out that your were at the time soliciting to a minor as you just stated..??
That is a crime all on its own... Should have never ever discussed this type of thing with an underage person.

But i am the bad guy here... i guess

Lol, you are a nutcase, read it again slowly. If I was going to class with her it would make me a minor also. Suggesting to someone what they should do with their lives after 18 is not solicitation, furthermore the whole thing was a joke. Are you the new version of Perfection Jeff?

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 08:25 PM

Naw lets just shoot great content if we can..

Peter Romero 07-13-2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nudecanada (Post 16060824)
You sound like that egotistical nobody Peter Romero/Roy Garcia. :2 cents:

Penis Envy.

Mutt 07-13-2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 16060914)
Penis Envy.

:1orglaugh

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 08:30 PM

Yeah, we get a lot of pussy and we prove it so those who don't get the pussy must put us down.

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 08:33 PM

HERE I AM GUYS!! This is for all the haters!! This is what i do to make money, even with my little dick.!!
So Enjoy haters!

http://www.sundevilangels.com/kalisex.jpg

CIVMatt 07-13-2009 08:37 PM

You don't have to explain shit imo...

Jon Oso 07-13-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16060245)

You ripped off Kristina Woods according to Ms Woods! Should I believe her..??


Hey I knew her and her boyfriend before either of them did porn. In fact I tried to teach her how to launch his lightning (or maybe I was teaching him) way back in the day. I am pretty sure I raced him too. I know him and I hung out a few times and she was around. What do I win?

Hell I'm pretty sure if I thought long and hard about it I could remember her real name, though I don't really care.

WHERE IS MY COOKIE:mad:

Jon Oso 07-13-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16060938)
HERE I AM GUYS!! This is for all the haters!! This is what i do to make money, even with my little dick.!!
So Enjoy haters!

http://www.sundevilangels.com/kalisex.jpg

It looks like you're wearing leggings made of Robin Williams. :2 cents:

If it makes you feel any better, my dick is about as small as yours, if not WAY smaller.

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 16060958)
Hey I knew her and her boyfriend before either of them did porn. In fact I tried to teach her how to launch his lightning (or maybe I was teaching him) way back in the day. I am pretty sure I raced him too. I know him and I hung out a few times and she was around. What do I win?

Hell I'm pretty sure if I thought long and hard about it I could remember her real name, though I don't really care.

WHERE IS MY COOKIE:mad:

My point was.. She was telling me all this drama about warren ripping her off and what not, i told her it was none of my biz, lets just shoot and focus on what we must get done for Nubiles.net.

Should I believe her, cause she is a very pretty sexy blonde girl??? I never even met warren, so i dont know if what she was saying was true or not, and i dont care. its not my biz...

But the piece of shit keeping it real person, takes sides with a model who is lying through her teeth!

Jon Oso 07-13-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16060968)
My point was.. She was telling me all this drama about warren ripping her off and what not, i told her it was none of my biz, lets just shoot and focus on what we must get done for Nubiles.net.

Should I believe her, cause she is a very pretty sexy blonde girl??? I never even met warren, so i dont know if what she was saying was true or not, and i dont care. its not my biz...

But the piece of shit keeping it real person, takes sides with a model who is lying through her teeth!

So who is the person that's calling you out? You know what they drive and their financial situation? I'd like to stir the pot a little bit and see who is talking shit about you? Since I'm local and surprisingly to myself actually know a few of the people that are being talked about I'd like to know. You can hit me up on ICQ in my sig if you want, I'm not trying to add to the drama here but if I'm going to be working in this city/state I want to know who I should potentially not be doing business with.

FWIW your car is slow, although you do take good pictures. I really have no real opinion on you either way other than the couple emails we've exchanged and what I've heard about you from other people. I don't care either way.

AaronM 07-13-2009 09:08 PM

Hello Eddie.

I'm pretty sure you and I have never met but I keep hearing your name. A few people have been hitting me up on ICQ recently asking me to post in the threads where you are being discussed. Until now I have been keeping my thoughts to myself but after seeing what a complete dick you have just been to Nikki, I think it's time I spoke up.

Until this year I don't recall ever hearing of your website or your name but that all changed when a PHX area model hit me up for work. I called said model for a phone interview and as our conversation progressed, she dropped your name along with several choice words. Now, I've been in this game for awhile and and one thing I know for certain is that models do tend to lie.....So....At that point I was reluctant to discuss any further work with her. However, she also mentioned several other producers I know so I contacted each of them to find out about their experiences with her along with what they knew of you.

Each of them said they had fairly limited experiences with the model but that from what they could see, she was OK to work with. On the flip side of the coin, everybody clearly knew you and the things they told me convinced me that what I was hearing from the model may very well be true. The only exception to this was when I contacted Rob. His answer was very similar to what lagwagon posted and he made it clear that he did not wish to be involved in any further discussion about you. Rob is respectful like that. :)

With all this said.....The model in question decided to forward emails to me. These emails came from your email address and were...How shall I put this....BEYOND rude. :disgust Currently I will refrain from posting specifics but I will say that in all the years I have been involved in this business, I have never, not even once, seen a fellow producer be so out of line or push harassment to such a level. It turned my stomach to read the things you said to this model yet in this very thread you claim that you treat models with respect.

Now.....These emails were CC'ed to a number of other producers and apparently some models as well so I know others are aware of the situation too.

I went ahead and booked her for the shoots. She never brought your name up again and she was a pleasure to work with. Since then I have had 3 other models, from the PHX area, bring your name to my attention and none of them were telling me how great you were to work with.

As I stated before....people have been seeding me links to these threads and I've been reading them here and there. Although I can't confirm 100% of the things I have read, I do think it's fair to say that I have heard and read a lot of these things myself. Whether it's all true or false....Who the fuck knows? But I can definitely confirm that your reputation among models and other shooters is less than stellar. Should that matter? Maybe....maybe not. It all depends on what's being said and in your case, it's not good.

I have 2 suggestions for you: :2 cents:

1: Add your hater to your ignore list. Out of site, out of mind.

2: Perhaps you should really think about how you interact with the models you work with and try to figure out exactly what it is that you are doing which displeases them so much.

And for the record....I don't shoot druggies either. Caught a well known model from FL shooting up in my studio last year and sent her home right away.

AaronM 07-13-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nudecanada (Post 16060824)
You sound like that egotistical nobody Peter Romero/Roy Garcia. :2 cents:


Indeed. :thumbsup

Kevin Marx 07-13-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16061019)

I have 2 suggestions for you: :2 cents:

1: Add your hater to your ignore list. Out of site, out of mind.

2: Perhaps you should really think about how you interact with the models you work with and try to figure out exactly what it is that you are doing which displeases them so much.

And for the record....I don't shoot druggies either. Caught a well known model from FL shooting up in my studio last year and sent her home right away.

quality post AaronM.

AaronM 07-13-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin-SFBucks (Post 16061097)
quality post AaronM.


Thanks Kevin, how you been man?

BusterBunny 07-13-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 16059900)
hi is the popcorn about ready? I'll just wait over here for that and enjoy the show :thumbsup

http://www.ijeannie.com/Intermission-SodaDancing1.gif

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 09:37 PM

Who is this model we speak of..?? care to why i may have let her know what she really is, or does that not matter at all?? Are we trying to Captain save a Ho..?? or a white Knight?? She did or said something, to deserve what I said to her.. Who is she..??

I only sent flaming emails to ONE girl, I am not the only one who would like to go off on her as well.

(Michelle, Chelle, Hannah) ????

AaronM 07-13-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16061116)
Who is this model we speak of..?? care to why i may have let her know what she really is, or does that not matter at all?? Are we trying to Captain save a Ho..?? or a white Knight?? She did or said something, to deserve what I said to her.. Who is she..??

I only sent flaming emails to ONE girl, I am not the only one who would like to go off on her as well.

(Michelle, Chelle, Hannah) ????


Doesn't matter who it is. I'm not in the habit of creating problems for the models I have worked with. All I'm saying is you should re-evaluate your situation and make changes as necessary. You feel nothing needs to be changed then so be it....But don't come crying if/when people start to kick you.

And with that...I'm done with this topic.

Good luck to all parties involved. :thumbsup

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 09:51 PM

That is what i dont get.. No one has the heart to be real and honest. Only hear lies and total bullshit! Creating problems for your models??? What kind of shit is that?? You like dumb ass Nikki Licks, should not have spoke up. You put yourselves into the mix big time, then again make me out to be the bad guy here.

If i do not know which model you are speaking of I can not fix the errors if there are indeed errors to be fixed.

Lets see, model shows up, i sit her down explain the shoot, show them the release, collect ID's, we shoot, they fill out the release, they get paid , they go home, WTF ?????
Damn I must be one alien looking ugly mother fucker. Cause after the shoots they allsay , when will you want me to shoot again, except for amai and Chelle- Hannah.

SBJ 07-13-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16061116)
Who is this model we speak of..?? care to why i may have let her know what she really is, or does that not matter at all?? Are we trying to Captain save a Ho..?? or a white Knight?? She did or said something, to deserve what I said to her.. Who is she..??

I only sent flaming emails to ONE girl, I am not the only one who would like to go off on her as well.

(Michelle, Chelle, Hannah) ????

He already said he wasn't going to say who the model was. I don't know how you treat models but yes I have heard from a few about some of the things that are being said.

I remember your myspace msgs where you were whining to me about so and so and straight up calling a girl we both shot a freaky little slut or whore or something degrading I remember that. I also remember a few threatening msgs from you that you were going to kick my ass and I don't have those msgs anymore as your myspace account has been deleted since then but i told several people about that and they said i should stay away from you.

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 16061164)
He already said he wasn't going to say who the model was. I don't know how you treat models but yes I have heard from a few about some of the things that are being said.

I remember your myspace msgs where you were whining to me about so and so and straight up calling a girl we both shot a freaky little slut or whore or something degrading I remember that. I also remember a few threatening msgs from you that you were going to kick my ass and I don't have those msgs anymore as your myspace account has been deleted since then but i told several people about that and they said i should stay away from you.

You know what, you are a weak ass punk thats right you bitch! You are a weak ass sissy bitch, i remember you now. You brought that on yourself for me to say what i said to you.

You tried to suck ass with Chris at FTV, to get us fighting. You were trying to be my friend
while going and telling Chris some bullshit. You are a two faced punk ass piece of shit!

Holly 07-13-2009 10:00 PM

I'm still not clear why any female would pay a guy to have sex with her.

Keeping it Real 07-13-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16061177)
You know what, you are a weak ass punk thats right you bitch! You are a weak ass sissy bitch, i remember you now. You brought that on yourself for me to say what i said to you.

You tried to suck ass with Chris at FTV, to get us fighting. You were trying to be my friend
while going and telling Chris some bullshit. You are a two faced punk ass piece of shit!

Wow. Such hostility. It makes me happy to see a few more people chiming in to confirm a few things. With any luck there will be more.

SBJ 07-13-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16061177)
You know what, you are a weak ass punk thats right you bitch! You are a weak ass sissy bitch, i remember you now. You brought that on yourself for me to say what i said to you.

You tried to suck ass with Chris at FTV, to get us fighting. You were trying to be my friend
while going and telling Chris some bullshit. You are a two faced punk ass piece of shit!

I was never trying to be your friend.. you contacted me cause i had shot on of the models you did and then you went on to whine about how you were wronged by them even after I said i was freinds with Chris but didn't know rob that well


I only contacted Chris one time after you said you were going to kick my ass for a post i made here at gfy..

get over it

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 10:01 PM

Now i do infact see where all this shit is coming from..... You weak piece of shit keyboard warriors!! Who couldn't get laid in a whore house on payday! You fucking webmasters and affiliate fat fucks who don't get hot pussy on a regular basis hate on those who do.

So you know what, anyone who knows how to do real biz will come to me in time. I will bow out of this piece of shit site. Let you fagot ass mother fuckers have . You fucks who can not get pussy if you even tried. All haters! Fuck you Keeping It Real!! Fuck You SBJ, you are both punks, weak ass bitches! Now what!

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping it Real (Post 16061187)
Wow. Such hostility. It makes me happy to see a few more people chiming in to confirm a few things. With any luck there will be more.

You are nothing but a weak ass punk, little punk bitch! Weak coward who hides.

Keeping it Real 07-13-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16061195)
You are nothing but a weak ass punk, little punk bitch! Weak coward who hides.

All that but now that others are stepping forward you have stopped calling me a liar.

Me = 1 You = 0

See you in the newspapers.

nudecanada 07-13-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16061191)
Now i do infact see where all this shit is coming from..... You weak piece of shit keyboard warriors!! Who couldn't get laid in a whore house on payday! You fucking webmasters and affiliate fat fucks who don't get hot pussy on a regular basis hate on those who do.

So you know what, anyone who knows how to do real biz will come to me in time. I will bow out of this piece of shit site. Let you fagot ass mother fuckers have . You fucks who can not get pussy if you even tried. All haters! Fuck you Keeping It Real!! Fuck You SBJ, you are both punks, weak ass bitches! Now what!

Meltdown WHAT? lmao

Now you are falling into the simonsynister/ninavain/donnylong/ pack of whack jobs! :1orglaugh

SunDevilangels 07-13-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nudecanada (Post 16061264)
Meltdown WHAT? lmao

Now you are falling into the simonsynister/ninavain/donnylong/ pack of whack jobs! :1orglaugh

No I am fine, just because we call people names as with righteous anger, doesnt mean we are out of control. I am fine. I am speaking truth. This guy is a weak coward hiding in the barn while he throws stones at you.

Phil 07-13-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevilangels (Post 16061324)
No I am fine, just because we call people names as with righteous anger, doesnt mean we are out of control. I am fine. I am speaking truth. This guy is a weak coward hiding in the barn while he throws stones at you.

why is your avatar gone?

Mr Pheer 07-13-2009 11:53 PM

This thread reminds me of Chernobyl.

NaughtyRob 07-14-2009 12:37 AM

I am in Vegas and I have heard not so good things about Eddie from an AZ model and a Vegas model that used to live in AZ.... my advice to Eddie is what Aaron said, step back and look at how you act. Word of mouth in this biz is fucking amazing. This biz is big but also very small, everybody knows somebody who knows somebody. Reputation is everything.

topnotch, standup guy 07-14-2009 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 16061446)
why is your avatar gone?

Probably because he be gone...... for good.

Davy 07-14-2009 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Oso (Post 16058689)

Why do 90% of the guys in that pic have a hand on their crotch?
Sleazy.

Vicious_B 07-14-2009 06:10 AM

http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/denial-and-...a-meltdown.jpg


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