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JeffCliff 08-05-2009 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 16115552)
Have you checked for some deleted domains.. I have found a ton of good ones that way

^^ Good point pornguy!

SarahLLO 08-05-2009 02:31 AM

I just want howisbabbyformed.com and it's taken, so booooooo.

sevent 08-05-2009 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16147809)
No, what sucks is that an extremely limited commodity that is essential to doing business online was given out to people for a negligible payment, in unlimited amounts, on a first-come-first-served basis.

Regardless of how they are "given out" (or sold) the market is going to find the correct price for these assets. With high reg/renewal fees, then the surplus goes to the registry (a monopoly with a very limited technical set of things to do; flooding them with money would be a VERY BAD thing and still not ensure availability (see the case of .mobi)). Also, high prices would lock out millions of people who might only be interested in a domain at $10 or less, like your average blogger.

Low reg/renewal fees mean the surplus goes to those who are smart and quick, and those willing to take risks. As others have mentioned, most domainers are willing to sell if the price is right.

gwidomains 08-05-2009 08:00 AM

You are right, domains are essentially a "public resource" whose value was created by U.S. tax dollars in the initial stage. However, after that creation rather than being properly allocated via an auction on the names, the names were treated as though all names have the same value.

Clearly they do not.

So, like when radio spectrum was just given away rather than auctioned many many many domainers and companies got great deals at the expense of the general public.

Verisign being the most egregious case -- they have gotten fat over the past 12? years with providing a commodity at ridiculously high prices with zero competition.

Anyway, you are right, domains should be auctioned (as they are in most new gtlds / cctlds that open), dropped domains should NOT be the property of the registrar they drop with, but go back to a transparent open auction system -- with the revenue used to sustain ICAN rather than taxes on names or subsidies from governments.


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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16147809)
No, what sucks is that an extremely limited commodity that is essential to doing business online was given out to people for a negligible payment, in unlimited amounts, on a first-come-first-served basis.

Someone who registers them in bulk and only sells at high prices only has to sell 1 in every 100 or so to turn a small profit. And therein lies the problem: it's simple and inexpensive to keep hundreds or even thousands of domains occupied but undeveloped.

I've profited from the system myself, and probably own more domains than most people in this thread. But that doesn't make it a good system.

You could compare the internet to a city in that regard: if land allocation works in such a way that a majority of worthwhile land is taken but undeveloped, the system is broken.


Si 08-05-2009 08:14 AM

Sorry.

See Sig :)

CYF 08-05-2009 02:05 PM

USPoliticalSystem.com is available. Grab it from namecheap or your favorite registrar for $10.

Juicy D. Links 08-05-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16113763)
So I'm trying to find a domain for a new site I'm starting. Of the 80 names I considered, 63 were taken by domainers.

:mad:

On a related note: if anyone has a good politics-related domain, please leave the name, your asking price and contact info in this thread.

Politics-related you say? I think Purehorseshit.com was on sale by Huntingmoon a while back. Perfect politics-related domain......:1orglaugh:thumbsup:Oh crap

davecummings 08-05-2009 03:56 PM

You have email concerning the below:

Willing to consider offers at 10% BELOW what YOU'D want for the domain(s) if
you ALREADY owned but were selling them.

POLITICALELECTABILITY.COM
POLITICALEMISSARY.COM
POLITICALFORCES.COM
POLITICALINFLUENCES.COM
POLITICALLYBOUND.COM
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POLITICALMORALVALUES.COM
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POLITICALSCHOLARLINESS.INFO
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POLITICLYPARTISAN.COM
AMERICANWHITEHOUSEUSA.COM
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HandballJim 08-05-2009 09:11 PM

Your not alone I bet most who have a domain name wished they owned a better one, I would love to own Japanesegirls.com and Handball.com for fun, and Business.com so I could retire.

I started messing around with the internet in the early 90's and many did not know including myself where the whole concept was going. I remember checking yahoo stock quotes and Angelina Jolie photos...and also ran into a lot of early porn websites. In fact many successful companies had registered their domain names before they even thought of the generic one word domains that would have automatically made their business a success.

In the late 90's people invested big in domains thinking that it would be easy to make millions on the net, then you had the internet bubble that bursted. Once this happened many people dropped tons of domains, this is when many domainers jumped in and purchased tons of names. We know now that you can make money on the net but not everyone has a success story. You know the examples...Google, yahoo, ebay, amazon, myspace, youtube, etc.

As far as the future goes I think the internet will be around for a while since so much money is invested in it. It is barely 20 years old. As far as all the good domains (online real estate) taken, it would be the same as you trying to buy beach front real estate....it is all taken. If you want it you need to pay the asking price. I do feel that all these other extensions are hurting the internet, it should have stayed .com, .net, and .org only. These were universal, then all the country codes came out...and who the hell ever would type in a .info or .me. :2 cents:

Vjo 08-05-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16151290)
Your not alone I bet most who have a domain name wished they owned a better one, I would love to own Japanesegirls.com and Handball.com for fun, and Business.com so I could retire.

I started messing around with the internet in the early 90's and many did not know including myself where the whole concept was going. I remember checking yahoo stock quotes and Angelina Jolie photos...and also ran into a lot of early porn websites. In fact many successful companies had registered their domain names before they even thought of the generic one word domains that would have automatically made their business a success.

In the late 90's people invested big in domains thinking that it would be easy to make millions on the net, then you had the internet bubble that bursted. Once this happened many people dropped tons of domains, this is when many domainers jumped in and purchased tons of names. We know now that you can make money on the net but not everyone has a success story. You know the examples...Google, yahoo, ebay, amazon, myspace, youtube, etc.

As far as the future goes I think the internet will be around for a while since so much money is invested in it. It is barely 20 years old. As far as all the good domains (online real estate) taken, it would be the same as you trying to buy beach front real estate....it is all taken. If you want it you need to pay the asking price. I do feel that all these other extensions are hurting the internet, it should have stayed .com, .net, and .org only. These were universal, then all the country codes came out...and who the hell ever would type in a .info or .me. :2 cents:

Spot on Jim.

It'll be interesting to see the bids at Sedo Auction beginning soon. They seem to be a bit hung up on short names (like in non adult) rather than good names.

There are domains Estibot lists at $100 but are listed because they are short. And I know there are domains listed at 20,000 that were longer than say 8 chars that were rejected. Now ok Estibot isn't the say all but that is a big diff.

For example: (made up domains)

Is tinyporn.net better than freepornpictures.com

One is short and one is a winner in peddling porn.
I'm not real impressed with what I see.

So we'll see.

Vjo 08-05-2009 11:39 PM

Sorry here's the list of accepted domains for the auction.

http://www.sedo.com/search/searchres...ionevent=adult

burntfilm 08-06-2009 12:07 AM

you'll always have changes in lexicon to add new commodities to the market.

Vjo 08-06-2009 12:19 AM

I guess what I'm really wondering.. are short .net domains such as *porn.net but no traffic more desirable to "joe porn domain buyer" than a longer .com with pin point targeting and some type in traffic. To me a short .net with no traffic is pretty much useless unless you own the .com

And yes there are some real good domains listed too.

* where this would be some obscure nonsense term but short

davecummings 08-06-2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16151290)
Your not alone I bet most who have a domain name wished they owned a better one, I would love to own Japanesegirls.com and Handball.com for fun, and Business.com so I could retire.

I started messing around with the internet in the early 90's and many did not know including myself where the whole concept was going. I remember checking yahoo stock quotes and Angelina Jolie photos...and also ran into a lot of early porn websites. In fact many successful companies had registered their domain names before they even thought of the generic one word domains that would have automatically made their business a success.

In the late 90's people invested big in domains thinking that it would be easy to make millions on the net, then you had the internet bubble that bursted. Once this happened many people dropped tons of domains, this is when many domainers jumped in and purchased tons of names. We know now that you can make money on the net but not everyone has a success story. You know the examples...Google, yahoo, ebay, amazon, myspace, youtube, etc.


As far as the future goes I think the internet will be around for a while since so much money is invested in it. It is barely 20 years old. As far as all the good domains (online real estate) taken, it would be the same as you trying to buy beach front real estate....it is all taken. If you want it you need to pay the asking price. I do feel that all these other extensions are hurting the internet, it should have stayed .com, .net, and .org only. These were universal, then all the country codes came out...and who the hell ever would type in a .info or .me. :2 cents:

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They're not Japanesegirls.com like you mentioned above, but I own (and would sell):

JAPANESEBARHOSTESSES.COM
JAPANESEBATHGIRLS.COM
JAPANESEGOKKUN.COM
JAPANESEHOSTESSES.COM
JAPANESEHOUSEHOLDS.COM
JAPANESESOAPLANDS.COM
JAPANVACATIONSITES.COM

HandballJim 08-06-2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 16151652)
I guess what I'm really wondering.. are short .net domains such as *porn.net but no traffic more desirable to "joe porn domain buyer" than a longer .com with pin point targeting and some type in traffic. To me a short .net with no traffic is pretty much useless unless you own the .com

And yes there are some real good domains listed too.

* where this would be some obscure nonsense term but short

I would still go with a .com even if it is a 3 word domain name. Also with 3 words you have a better chance your keywords term will come up in search engines. Some of my searches are hot japapanese girls....japanese girls might be too general but would give you type in traffic. But the chances of getting type ins drop with a .net or .org....but you still will get some type in traffic. Also if you develope your shorter .net domain chances are you will be sending traffic to the owner of the .com :2 cents:

That Sedo auction looks pretty good, but I have several names entered with the Internext Moniker auction.


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