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michel 08-18-2009 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 16192316)
Is that an Ibanez RG Prestige in the middle there Michel? Sweet collection.

I've not submitted a gallery to any TGP in 6 years, but theHun still sticks in my head as the best out there, with the most decent people running it. I used to get listed all the time - you just have to put a bit of WORK into your gallery, find new good quality content which hasn't been flogged to death, and you're away.
Nope, thats a "normal" rg560, but from the very first series (with neckplate instead of only the bolts) and made in japan 1991 I believe. So it should be prestige quality. :)

It's still free to submit to thehun so I'd say give it a shot. We also accept mobile only galleries now for mobihun.com or make it a hybrid one for both mobile and pc. You can submit all (mobile also) galleries through the same old submit page :)

Barefootsies 08-18-2009 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 16182884)
For all the years I've been on the boards people have told us traffic is king. They have never changed the song even though the Internet has changed totally. Then as now the only thing that mattered was the sign ups and what each one of them cost. Traffic was always the easy thing to get, sign ups for some the hardest.

Sites that were doing 1:1000 and not enough signs were told "You need more traffic." 999 of the people who visited the site were clearly saying "NO THANK YOU." and leaving. And some still thought the solution was more traffic. So they spent more money on more traffic and often their ratios worsened, so they threw more money at getting more traffic.

If 999 people are walking into your shop (tour) and saying no the problem is you don't have what they needed. Many came to the site because they were interested in the niche and what the gallery was showing, but the tour failed to convert them. The problem should of been solved by converting 1 of the 999 into a customer. doubles your membership and makes your site look better to affiliates.

keep them on the site with content they adore and can't find on 100-1000 other sites.

But we still see traffic as king, this thread proves otherwise.
:thumbsup

pimpware 08-18-2009 12:49 PM
Seems like lot of people hate the hun, maybe I'm wrong but a lot of that same people first steps on porn where on the hun. oldskool :winkwink:

"Do not bite the hand that feed you" :2 cents:

katharos 08-18-2009 12:51 PM
so ... any sales or any news here?

the Shemp 08-18-2009 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpware (Post 16202449)
Seems like lot of people hate the hun, maybe I'm wrong but a lot of that same people first steps on porn where on the hun. oldskool :winkwink:

"Do not bite the hand that feed you" :2 cents:
some day when i retire, i'll post the list of extremely successful webmasters that started out submitting tgp galleries...( and some still do ) ;)

CunningStunt 08-18-2009 03:44 PM
I'm interested in sales figures.

My guess these days, 1:50,000 is about right for a TGP.

andrej_NDC 08-18-2009 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 16203961)
I'm interested in sales figures.

My guess these days, 1:50,000 is about right for a TGP.
If you had a clue, you would know ratios mean nothing. I can make a template with 50% CTR and then another with 0.1% CTR, each could send the same sales, but one at 1:30k, the other one at 1:60. Its like telling: "My guess is a car costs $20k nowadays."

The Hun 08-19-2009 07:59 AM
We thought it was getting too long before new submitters got listed as well, so we went in and changed a couple of things. Now you'll get listed fairly quick. And like someone mentioned earlier, once you're in the loop you can get listed every 3-4 days...

shuki 08-19-2009 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16178807)
i bought up all of the top hun listings for a solid 5 years. non-stop. it sure used to be a money maker. /understatment. i have no idea what is going on over there now though. 5 years ago you would never make it in the top 10 unless you paid. heh.
Do you still run your site or did you sell it? I remember hearing amazing stories about you and was curious as to what you are up to now.

xxxfeetxxx 08-20-2009 01:21 PM
Thanks for all the comments and feedback. I ended up with 2 sales from around 110k gallery views. I agree it's not one of the best galleries I've ever got listed. Will think harder for the next one. :)

CunningStunt 08-20-2009 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 16204399)
If you had a clue, you would know ratios mean nothing. I can make a template with 50% CTR and then another with 0.1% CTR, each could send the same sales, but one at 1:30k, the other one at 1:60. Its like telling: "My guess is a car costs $20k nowadays."
What are you babbling on about? It's simple maths - how many sales, for how many unique visitors. We are not discussing clickthru, it's a listing on the hun, in text.

The OP has confirmed my 1 sale in 50K hits guess was pretty accurate.

NY Jester 08-20-2009 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxfeetxxx (Post 16214148)
Thanks for all the comments and feedback. I ended up with 2 sales from around 110k gallery views. I agree it's not one of the best galleries I've ever got listed. Will think harder for the next one. :)
2 sales on a Hun gallery listing is pretty good and should be about the norm. Ive had listings where I made 0 sales and Ive also had them make 9 sales (once) But the majority of the galleries Ive had listed make between 1-3 sales. Rinse repeat :thumbsup

LeRoy 08-20-2009 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Hun (Post 16207949)
We thought it was getting too long before new submitters got listed as well, so we went in and changed a couple of things. Now you'll get listed fairly quick. And like someone mentioned earlier, once you're in the loop you can get listed every 3-4 days...

Thats fucking sweet.

One of the reasons I dont submit there on a regular basis. Takes too long to get listed

Vjo 08-20-2009 04:12 PM
Kudos that there are still places you can get that kind of free traffic. Esp now that bw is no longer a prob. hehe I remember in the old days bw was a def consideration on the listings I got from The Hun.

On the flip side tho.. click thrus now days.. surfers are so savvy you may only get at best 2% ctr on your gallery so maybe 2000 to the sponsor on a 100,000 to the gallery. And that may not convert. (don't hold me to that as I don't submit galleries anymore but I assume 2% is good if like most traffic now days)

Hun's surfers have to be mostly bookmarkers who have seen every pitch and paysite in the book and I doubt you get 2% click thru.

I would be interseted in what click thru % you got if you don't mind sharing.

Vjo 08-20-2009 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxfeetxxx (Post 16214148)
Thanks for all the comments and feedback. I ended up with 2 sales from around 110k gallery views. I agree it's not one of the best galleries I've ever got listed. Will think harder for the next one. :)
Congrats! ctr doesn't mean as much as long as there are sales. :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 08-20-2009 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 16214282)
What are you babbling on about? It's simple maths - how many sales, for how many unique visitors. We are not discussing clickthru, it's a listing on the hun, in text.

The OP has confirmed my 1 sale in 50K hits guess was pretty accurate.
You never mentioned gallery visits to sales...ratios mean in most cases paysite visits to sales.

Paul Markham 08-25-2009 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 16214282)
What are you babbling on about? It's simple maths - how many sales, for how many unique visitors. We are not discussing clickthru, it's a listing on the hun, in text.

The OP has confirmed my 1 sale in 50K hits guess was pretty accurate.
A lot of people who thought it was simple maths are now flipping burgers. It has fuck all to do with maths, it's about how much the people looking at the gallery (or what ever) like what they see X how easy that niche/content/style/content is is to find on 1 or 1,000 other sites X how much of it is available for free on Tubes X how good the gallery is at stopping going to the next one (especially on sites like the Hun) X how well the tour convinces the the surfer the site is worth signing up to X how good the site is at keeping them retained.

Simple maths?

After 10 years of people thinking it was about simple maths and where we are today it's a wonder people refuse to say they got it wrong.

Now tell me how if only 1,000 people see your gallery it will convert half as many as 2,000 seeing it. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Maybe some need the simple solution, sadly it does not work.

garce 08-25-2009 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpware (Post 16202449)
Seems like lot of people hate the hun, maybe I'm wrong but a lot of that same people first steps on porn where on the hun. oldskool :winkwink:

"Do not bite the hand that feed you" :2 cents:
Waaay back in June 1998, both The Hun and AL4A listed my first site (not a gallery - the actual front page that had a number of images on it) right at the top of their listings. One of their top three spots, can't remember exactly which.

Been riding the coattails of that massive traffic influx for eleven years. Much love for the Hun (and AL) over here.


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