Originally Posted by MikeSmoke (Post 16192934)

Yes, I've hosted with Brad long before his company was called Mojohost, and no, I'm not trying to kiss his ass.
If you actually read my posts in this and the other thread, you'd have seen that I'm wrestling with a similar sort of dilemma in that I'm the lone, long-time holdout in a niche where people with no ethics are currently kicking the crap out of me - and I've been standing there and letting them kick because of my ethics. I've been trying not to only protect my *own* content, but the content of other producers in my niche - and not even the other producers have taken a stand with me.
So yes, that does lead people to question whether their ethics are going to put them out of business - whether it's worth it, both to themselves and the families they support - and whether they have to compromise their ethics when both the surfers AND the producers have given in to the "public domain" argument I've been fighting for years. And that's why I sympathize with Brad's dilemma and decision, even though I'm unhappy he had to make that decision.
And there's no reason for me to kiss Brad's ass - any more than I'd kiss the ass of Time Warner (who provides my internet service) or AT&T (who provides my phone service). I know people here think there are always hidden agendas and many spend half their time trying to figure them out. I barely pay attention to the "personalities" on GFY and wouldn't recognize 99% of their names - I'm not here to debate with anyone - and when I make a business post, there are no hidden agendas. I'm not a "bro," stopped going to shows several years ago, and am way too old to do anything other than speak my mind honestly.

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16194167)

Might want to check MojoHost.... they recently announced that they don't mind tube sites anymore.

Originally Posted by mlove (Post 16192469)

Shut up and file a DMCA faggot.

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16194176)

Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 16192147)

I want to launch an illegal tube site using a bunch of stolen content from some of the largest and most successful studios in the world. I also want to use some content from smaller producers who are barely making it in this industry. You know, the little guy who works his ass off and spends every last dollar to produce beautiful material...only to have it stolen and used without his permission! Fuck it, I'm an equal opportunity thief! I'll steal from anybody :pimp

Which hosting companies need my money so badly that they'll host this site for me? I need a host who'll be happy to juggle all the DMCA notices when they come down the pike. You may even have to hire a full-time attorney because I'll be expecting a lot of paperwork and I'll be too busy counting my money to deal with that shit. By the way, you can just tell the offended party that.... the clip was uploaded by a user and that we had no control over it. We don't want them to think that we actually stole it and loaded it up ourselves - see what I mean? :winkwink:

I need killer support and super fast servers! If yo' baby needs some new shoes, we need to talk! If you barely make enough money to cover your overhead because you are doing things the "legit" way, hit me up! If you are worried that your competition is growing faster then you are, here's your solution!

Together...we can get rich stealing content from other companies and showcasing them on my new tube site.

Ready....set....go :winkwink:


*This post is a joke. Unlike some folks in our industry, I would never steal content from others nor would I knowingly do business with companies that did.

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16194167)

Might want to check MojoHost.... they recently announced that they don't mind tube sites anymore.

Originally Posted by Jet (Post 16195381)

i heard www.MojoHost.com started hosting illegal tubes a few days ago

Originally Posted by BardMan (Post 16195478)

1. hosting companies must come together and ban tube hosting, it's illegal so why are they hosting it?
2. advertisers will soon realize that tubes don't convert for shit... they will stop buying spots.
3. film studios need to get off their asses and create class action suit against tube piracy, and start off by successfully taking one down at a time.
4. affiliate programs need to not accept tube traffic, because it don't convert anyways and tubes teach people to NOT join sites.
5. the biggest tube culprits are some affiliate programs, where they disguise themselves as a separate tube entity when in fact they are the tube in efforts to send traffic to themselves, get ad dollars and of course blame piracy on fake uploaders.
6. lets get real... porn was the 'golden egg' that gave our industry the leading edge to make a decent living... tubes crack this egg and deep fried it on us all just for the quick buck on selling ad spots... they should be shot.

Originally Posted by BardMan (Post 16195478)

2. advertisers will soon realize that tubes don't convert for shit... they will stop buying spots.