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baddog 09-12-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16311906)
Great story and good thread.


What do you thing is more difficult to work with? :Ladyboys or Diva LA porn girls?

:1orglaugh

quiet 09-12-2009 06:09 PM

were you completely serious about the 100 acres of land, the guns, food, the entire self-preservation thing? it's really pretty interesting.

PornMD 09-12-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Twig (Post 16311525)
I've got one. Does the amount of words matter as much as people act? I've got a 3word domain, but 2 words are 2 letters each. 9 letters in total.
Is that really that bad of a domain for actual use?

When the amount of words in the domain is 2-4, the amount of words really doesn't matter as much as people think. I mean word count is ALWAYS secondary to word QUALITY anyways, i.e. there are some dictionary word domains still available in .com because they're shitty words, and there's some names that are 6+ words taken in a bunch of extensions because the keyword phrase is either searched a ton or is a strong slogan or brand type phrase that would hook people in well. But the difference between 1 and 2 word can be huge and the difference between 4 word and beyond can be pretty big. The only time I ever go beyond 4 words is if there are 2-word TERMS involved...for instance I have a lot of 5-word "bad credit" domains, whereby bad credit is 2 words but is effectively 1 term as it's a strong niche within credit. In fact, here's an example of one I don't have but a 5-word domain that would be an easy 4-figure if not 5-figure domain: CreditCardsForBadCredit.com. The term is searched nearly 50k times per month, high CPC term, trending up, etc. Definitely a long name for sure, but the terms are strong enough for it to be a very valuable domain and it's no surprise the name is taken in 14 exts.

Getting down into 2-4 words, 4's not that much worrse than 3, 3 not that much worse than 2. Quite often people focus on shortness of name and less words so much that some really strong 3-4 word domains are sitting available and I'm always happy to scoop them up and sell them. I had BuyCarInsuranceOnline -dot- org for instance - 4-word .org but sold it recently for mid $xxx after having several domainers/domain investors ask about it before. Also have had/sold WhatWouldYouLike -dot- com for $600 I believe...that name isn't even a generic phrase but more a brandable slogan phrase and as such can actually be more sought after by end-users because they can use it nicely in ad campaigns.

So yea, if your phrase is strong, then # of words isn't going to hurt it much, but when you get into the 5+ word terrain you really have to make sure you get a strong phrase as the length of the name will turn a lot of people off. The more words/length, the more possibilities of names, the harder your name is to remember, the longer it takes to type in and the more room for typos and spelling errors, etc. 3-letter .coms aren't a min $3,500 - $4,000 for nothing. :)

DWB 09-13-2009 02:28 AM

Morning all. Just woke up, have a shoot to do today, but will get back to the questions after I process the pics.

MediaGuy 09-13-2009 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16310402)
I will stop kicking the GFY hornets nest for a while

LOL well said...

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16310402)
Perhaps some other GFY'ers who know a few things can also chime in? :thumbsup

Count me in!!


I have a question about your niche: is tranny/lady-boy a lot of one-time, curiosity buys or do you have much recurring, repeat subscribers? Is it, like, a "real" fetish or turn on or whut?

:D

okny 09-13-2009 03:14 AM

Great topic and it would be nice if more people would ask questions instead of the regulars busting chops.

$5 submissions 09-13-2009 03:25 AM

Great thread. I'm reading all posts. One can never learn enough. :)

Ivor CashInEnvelope 09-13-2009 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16310402)
I've noticed a LOT of new guys/girls bumping around here and figured they may have a lot of questions or unsure about something in the business. So, I will stop kicking the GFY hornets nest for a while and actually help some people out, if they are in need. I am far from knowing it all, but I know enough to make a good living and can share some of that information with you.

Perhaps some other GFY'ers who know a few things can also chime in? :thumbsup

Noobs, is there anything you need help with? Questions you would like answered? Anything at all? If I don't know, I will tell you. If I do, I will tell you what I know, or at least *think* I know. :)

you are noing who is big money real player's for me in amsterdam network of show?

I am for talking at the bro's please!!! lol's

DWB 09-13-2009 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 16312788)

I have a question about your niche: is tranny/lady-boy a lot of one-time, curiosity buys or do you have much recurring, repeat subscribers? Is it, like, a "real" fetish or turn on or whut?

:D

Guys who look at shemales, generally LOVE shemales. Of course there is the curious guy who is just getting his feet wet, but he will love them too, it's just a matter of time.

Recurring members depends on the site. If the site doesn't understand the niche and just shits out a TS site because it's the "in thing" to do, then shemale fans know this and will bounce. However, if you send them to sites that KNOW the niche and love shemales themselves, guys will stick around a while.

In fact, Grooby (one of the oldest and largest TS programs) was the first company to break CCbill due to the amount of rebills they had. When they hit 99 rebills (I think that was the number), CCbill broke and they had to change CCbill in order to accommodate Grooby's rebills! That says a LOT!!! :thumbsup

Yes, it's a real turn on. However, not all of them actually fuck with trannies, but they do have intense fantasies about them. It's a slippery slope, and once a guy goes down that road, it's not easy to turn around.

There are a lot of programs that understand this niche and should get your traffic. If we want a list of those, at least companies that I believe are the best, we can do that, just ask.

DWB 09-13-2009 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16311943)
were you completely serious about the 100 acres of land, the guns, food, the entire self-preservation thing? it's really pretty interesting.

Serious as a case of dick cancer. It's actually a little over 100 acres (they measure land in Rai), but it's easier to say 100 acres.

I'm all about self preservation. You never know when we could experience power failures on a massive scale, food shortages or just overall civil unrest. I would rather be over prepared and be laughed at, than under-prepared and have to struggle to survive. None of us know what tomorrow will bring.

Truth be told, to do this in the USA would be WAY out of my budget, but to create this compound in Thailand was affordable. We also make a little money from rice and avocados. However, all the hard work I must give credit to my GF's family, as I'm in another city shooting porn.

DWB 09-13-2009 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Twig (Post 16311525)
I've got one. Does the amount of words matter as much as people act? I've got a 3word domain, but 2 words are 2 letters each. 9 letters in total.
Is that really that bad of a domain for actual use?

Twig, I have always believed that a domain is what you make of it. I would think the shorter the better. I mean, what is a Google or a Yahoo? My biggest money making domains are 2 and 3 word domains.

However, I am NOT a domain expert so take what I say with a grain of salt.

DWB 09-13-2009 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16311906)
What do you thing is more difficult to work with? :Ladyboys or Diva LA porn girls?

:1orglaugh Great question!

I don't know!!!!!!! :1orglaugh

Lets trade gigs for a month and report back.

Nicky 09-13-2009 05:29 AM

I want to go to Thailand :) I'm not that keen on the LB's though LOL

DWB 09-13-2009 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 16312860)
Great thread. I'm reading all posts. One can never learn enough. :)

You sir are full of great information. Spill it!!!!

Twig 09-13-2009 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16312060)
When the amount of words in the domain is 2-4, the amount of words really doesn't matter as much as people think. I mean word count is ALWAYS secondary to word QUALITY anyways, i.e. there are some dictionary word domains still available in .com because they're shitty words, and there's some names that are 6+ words taken in a bunch of extensions because the keyword phrase is either searched a ton or is a strong slogan or brand type phrase that would hook people in well. But the difference between 1 and 2 word can be huge and the difference between 4 word and beyond can be pretty big. The only time I ever go beyond 4 words is if there are 2-word TERMS involved...for instance I have a lot of 5-word "bad credit" domains, whereby bad credit is 2 words but is effectively 1 term as it's a strong niche within credit. In fact, here's an example of one I don't have but a 5-word domain that would be an easy 4-figure if not 5-figure domain: CreditCardsForBadCredit.com. The term is searched nearly 50k times per month, high CPC term, trending up, etc. Definitely a long name for sure, but the terms are strong enough for it to be a very valuable domain and it's no surprise the name is taken in 14 exts.

Getting down into 2-4 words, 4's not that much worrse than 3, 3 not that much worse than 2. Quite often people focus on shortness of name and less words so much that some really strong 3-4 word domains are sitting available and I'm always happy to scoop them up and sell them. I had BuyCarInsuranceOnline -dot- org for instance - 4-word .org but sold it recently for mid $xxx after having several domainers/domain investors ask about it before. Also have had/sold WhatWouldYouLike -dot- com for $600 I believe...that name isn't even a generic phrase but more a brandable slogan phrase and as such can actually be more sought after by end-users because they can use it nicely in ad campaigns.

So yea, if your phrase is strong, then # of words isn't going to hurt it much, but when you get into the 5+ word terrain you really have to make sure you get a strong phrase as the length of the name will turn a lot of people off. The more words/length, the more possibilities of names, the harder your name is to remember, the longer it takes to type in and the more room for typos and spelling errors, etc. 3-letter .coms aren't a min $3,500 - $4,000 for nothing. :)

Fantastic post, thank you much.

DWB 09-13-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16312060)
When the amount of words in the domain is 2-4, the amount of words really doesn't matter as much as people think. I mean word count is ALWAYS secondary to word QUALITY anyways, i.e. there are some dictionary word domains still available in .com because they're shitty words, and there's some names that are 6+ words taken in a bunch of extensions because the keyword phrase is either searched a ton or is a strong slogan or brand type phrase that would hook people in well. But the difference between 1 and 2 word can be huge and the difference between 4 word and beyond can be pretty big. The only time I ever go beyond 4 words is if there are 2-word TERMS involved...for instance I have a lot of 5-word "bad credit" domains, whereby bad credit is 2 words but is effectively 1 term as it's a strong niche within credit. In fact, here's an example of one I don't have but a 5-word domain that would be an easy 4-figure if not 5-figure domain: CreditCardsForBadCredit.com. The term is searched nearly 50k times per month, high CPC term, trending up, etc. Definitely a long name for sure, but the terms are strong enough for it to be a very valuable domain and it's no surprise the name is taken in 14 exts.

Getting down into 2-4 words, 4's not that much worrse than 3, 3 not that much worse than 2. Quite often people focus on shortness of name and less words so much that some really strong 3-4 word domains are sitting available and I'm always happy to scoop them up and sell them. I had BuyCarInsuranceOnline -dot- org for instance - 4-word .org but sold it recently for mid $xxx after having several domainers/domain investors ask about it before. Also have had/sold WhatWouldYouLike -dot- com for $600 I believe...that name isn't even a generic phrase but more a brandable slogan phrase and as such can actually be more sought after by end-users because they can use it nicely in ad campaigns.

So yea, if your phrase is strong, then # of words isn't going to hurt it much, but when you get into the 5+ word terrain you really have to make sure you get a strong phrase as the length of the name will turn a lot of people off. The more words/length, the more possibilities of names, the harder your name is to remember, the longer it takes to type in and the more room for typos and spelling errors, etc. 3-letter .coms aren't a min $3,500 - $4,000 for nothing. :)

EXCELLENT POST!!!! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Profits of Doom 09-13-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16313002)
There are a lot of programs that understand this niche and should get your traffic. If we want a list of those, at least companies that I believe are the best, we can do that, just ask.

I'd be very curious to know what tranny programs are DWB approved...:thumbsup

DWB 09-13-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 16314568)
I'd be very curious to know what tranny programs are DWB approved...:thumbsup

Approved based on what I believe has solid content OR can keep members, and mostly specializes in shemales (in no order):

Grooby
Exotic Gold
Island Dollars
Tranny Pay
Shemale Profits
Niche Castle
SMC Revenue

I think Spider Dollars is an up and coming shemale company, and Hung Cash should be on the list somewhere too, as they have some authentic shemale sites. PimpRoll has been coming pretty heavy into the shamale market with Tranny.com, but I've yet to get a chance to look in their members area or study their content, so I can't say for sure yet about them. If they want to comp me a pass, I will report back with my honest thoughts.

I'm sure there are a few others but I'm dog ass tired about about crash. My brain is not the sharpest right now. These are just the first ones that come to mind. There are a lot of little sites out there, no real program, just 1 or 2 sites. That list could get long, perhaps for another thread or post.

alias 09-13-2009 02:27 PM

Ok I have an issue. What kind of cool "neighbor" lends you his 9mm. [epic dog story]

Porn Grounds 09-13-2009 02:54 PM

Some really great info in this thread thus far :)

DWB 09-13-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 16314867)
Ok I have an issue. What kind of cool "neighbor" lends you his 9mm. [epic dog story]

The police chief. :thumbsup

alias 09-13-2009 03:15 PM

Haha.. .

DWB 09-13-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Twig (Post 16311515)
My public question is, who is in the avatar?
I'm sure I should know this, as she looks very familiar.

I don't know her name but she is a Japanese AV model. Absolutely stunning. :2 cents:


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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16311513)
What are your methods of growing? Buying ad spots, buying traffic, link buying, link trading, link building, affiliates, whatever else I missed? What's been most effective for you? Is your main focus getting more immediate traffic in and making the quick profit from it or long-term SEO and being rewarded over time with SE traffic?

"Growth" for me happens when I do what I do best and delegate the rest. I can't do it all, nor do I want to. However, when I try, I don't grow. When operate with my personal strengths and realize my weaknesses, delegating to those who can do certain jobs better, I can grow.

I'm not a traffic or ad guy. I rely on others for that. I've tried to excel in these areas and failed as it's not something I enjoy. I believe I must enjoy what I'm doing in order to be relatively good at it. My money is in content production and small niche and micro-niche pay sites. I leave all the difficult stuff to guys like yourself who understand it, inside and out.

Since I'm not a traffic guy, I can't answer about long term SEO, but I can tell you that in terms of sites and content, I am both. Some sites I've partnered on were short term sites with a quick profit. I knew that going in but that is what I wanted. Some sites I know will be around for a long time so I tailor them as such.

DWB 09-13-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 16315016)
Haha.. .

:pimp You just can't go around putting dog heads on fence posts. I had to OK it with someone in charge first, and considering the police were not able to help in the first place, he said it was fine so long as it didn't end up on his post.

MediaGuy 09-13-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16310877)
I've tried all sorts of clever software and gadgets to help me keep it all together, but always resort back to a good old fashioned yellow note pad. It never fails me. I keep it right next to my computer, which ever one I'm sitting at, and take it with me everywhere I go, to every meeting and every shoot. It holds it ALL together for me.

Occasionally, I use post-it notes. I'll stick them on my monitor before I go to sleep so it's the first thing I see when I sit down again to work. I also usually work with at least 2 computers at once. One for rendering videos or heavy work, another for mail, boards, little jobs.

That may not work for you, but that is what I have been using for 10 or so years, without fail.

The trick is, sticking to your list, whatever format you use. If you can't stick to your list, how you deliver the list is irrelevant. It takes a little discipline to stay on top of your list. If there are any short cuts, I've yet to find them.

Depends what you're doing and what your job is...

For support from customers I use a basic folder-filter config in Thunderbird. All spam goes to the main inbox, and important stuff goes to the right client folders...

Important stuff I email to myself. My "list" creates itself that way, and I just gotta go through the emails and delete as I'm done...

It works.

:D

alias 09-13-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16315059)
:pimp You just can't go around putting dog heads on fence posts. I had to OK it with someone in charge first, and considering the police were not able to help in the first place, he said it was fine so long as it didn't end up on his post.

In like Flynn.

MediaGuy 09-13-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Twig (Post 16311525)
I've got one. Does the amount of words matter as much as people act? I've got a 3word domain, but 2 words are 2 letters each. 9 letters in total.
Is that really that bad of a domain for actual use?

It all depends on what your site-pages contain pertaining to the URL as a whole.

And what those two letter words are.

I mean, "if" and "so" aren't to be made relevant at all... but in a long-tail, keyword-phrase sense they might be. Again, depends on the two-letter words ("bi" being more relevant than "is" for example"

:D

DWB 09-13-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 16315123)
Depends what you're doing and what your job is...

For support from customers I use a basic folder-filter config in Thunderbird. All spam goes to the main inbox, and important stuff goes to the right client folders...

Important stuff I email to myself. My "list" creates itself that way, and I just gotta go through the emails and delete as I'm done...

It works.

:D

Good tip. :thumbsup

Outlook uses "mail rules" to do sort of the same thing.

mikesouth 09-13-2009 03:57 PM

This is a good thread, I have learned quite a bit, next time I see you I do want to alk about traffic, who you recommend for my niche and that sort of thing, I think I have done about all I can do myself and its time to ramp things up a bit.

I also have need for a serious C++ or C# coder with Net2.0 experience to write some API guided code.

Khun 09-14-2009 08:51 PM

Dunno if you are still answering questions but I have one... How do you work around all the laws in Thailand outlawing porn? From everything I have read, the monkeyhouse is just about the last place on earth you want to wind up.

Also, are you in BKK, Patts, or somewhere else?

JP513 09-14-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16310432)
I actually don't have sex with ladyboys. I hire guys to do that, though, I do get an occasional BJ from them. People assume because I shoot them or tell stories about them, that I'm fucking them daily and getting railed in the ass. It's just not true.

You got railed in the ass by me.


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