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Robbie 09-16-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Elite Porn Reviews (Post 16328639)
So you have 500 programs you promote, and if you are sending traffic at 0:4000, 0:5000, 0:8000 etc, you'd not swap links and just let things go?

Even if other sponsors are converting at 1:400 and 1:500 on average on the same traffic.

I don't think I agree with how you handle your traffic.

You're not understanding....Take a look at http://grampland.com/mmpage.html I have THOUSANDS of links to galleries in there if you count the years and years of archived galleries. I would NEVER pull a gallery link in my own tgp or any of the other ones I own.

Now, if I put a banner link right there on the main page and I saw that it wasn't making any sales then I would change it out for another one that I am seeing good sales for. But that particular program would probably have hundreds and sometimes thousands of other links throughout my sites. I just wouldn't put it in a major spot.

Now if I were buying a spot on the Hun or a big tube site...then I wouldn't fuck around at all. I'd pick my very best converting and highest paying for that one. But on my own sites I never pull anything. They move by themselves down the list and out to the archives. :)

cezam 09-16-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by katharos (Post 16327376)
man i have about 60 domains and i am building three per week ... once i will have mine 120 i will care about that ... but now i dont know where i lost that or that link and if i will get paid with any ratio i am happy :)

katharos if you read this hit me up at icq in my sig.. (muzeme pokecat :)

NetHorse 09-16-2009 11:30 PM

It depends on the source of traffic and what it's costing you, (if anything).

That being said I pull links if they don't convert in 1:1000. My traffic is targeted though and I don't run TGP/MGP type sites.

Elite Porn Reviews 09-17-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16328800)
You're not understanding....Take a look at http://grampland.com/mmpage.html I have THOUSANDS of links to galleries in there if you count the years and years of archived galleries. I would NEVER pull a gallery link in my own tgp or any of the other ones I own.

Now, if I put a banner link right there on the main page and I saw that it wasn't making any sales then I would change it out for another one that I am seeing good sales for. But that particular program would probably have hundreds and sometimes thousands of other links throughout my sites. I just wouldn't put it in a major spot.

Now if I were buying a spot on the Hun or a big tube site...then I wouldn't fuck around at all. I'd pick my very best converting and highest paying for that one. But on my own sites I never pull anything. They move by themselves down the list and out to the archives. :)

I am fully understanding, and you've still yet to answer the question lol

Tom_PM 09-17-2009 09:21 AM

He did answer, and you've been given a bunch of answers you dont seem to agree with. That doesnt mean people havent been trying to offer input, but they'll cool off if you dont want any of it. I dont understand that.
He said he NEVER pulls anything from his own sites. Answer: never.

Elite Porn Reviews 09-17-2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16330329)
He did answer, and you've been given a bunch of answers you dont seem to agree with. That doesnt mean people havent been trying to offer input, but they'll cool off if you dont want any of it. I dont understand that.
He said he NEVER pulls anything from his own sites. Answer: never.

Then he also said he puts up banners and etc, and moves them out if they are not producing.

Well, how long does he wait?

The question is quite simple....

Agent 488 09-17-2009 09:31 AM

why pull links on a review site? makes no sense. like robbie says, don't feature them with a prime spot or banners, but why bother pulling them?

Tom_PM 09-17-2009 09:42 AM

I'm sure he waits for what he knows for his site and that niche an amount of time where he'd know if it was doing well or not.

It's kind of like asking "how big a nail should I use".

Elite Porn Reviews 09-17-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16330377)
why pull links on a review site? makes no sense. like robbie says, don't feature them with a prime spot or banners, but why bother pulling them?

This has nothing to do with a review site.

And has everything to do with traffic to sponsors.

Agent 488 09-17-2009 09:51 AM

1: 1000 then.

Elite Porn Reviews 09-17-2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16330426)
I'm sure he waits for what he knows for his site and that niche an amount of time where he'd know if it was doing well or not.

It's kind of like asking "how big a nail should I use".

If you know your traffic, and the niches you are sending to, then you know how many thousands of hits you'll send until you are ready to try something out.

It's a pretty simple question.

You have a traffic source.

You send to sponsor A, B, and C, and it's converting at 1:400-1:800 on average.

Sponsor D is converting at 1:8000, 0:8000, etc etc

How long until sponsor D is changed?

Agent 488 09-17-2009 09:51 AM

sometimes 1: 500.

Agent 488 09-17-2009 09:52 AM

other times let it go to 1: 3000.

Agent 488 09-17-2009 09:53 AM

some sites if it hit 1: 200 it would be pulled.

baddog 09-17-2009 10:08 AM

On a review site? Never.

Tom_PM 09-17-2009 10:17 AM



Ok, but all humour aside..

Seriously, it's not cut and dry.. I'd look the tour over, hover and click and review each link on the tour. Yeah I know, I didnt make the tour and it should work perfectly, but if my traffic seems to hit a black hole on this tour, I'm checking it like it's mine. Like it's gold, like it's platinum. I'm clicking everything, and I mean EVERYTHING. I'm visiting the processor join page, I'm checking source codes, I'm asking my brother to go sign up for a month. Anything I can do to make sure the actual process of surfer joining = me depositing money. If it doesnt, and I've done my due diligence on my own behalf, I'm contacting the sponsor. You very well could help them uncover a problem for all ya know. Or they may break out some overall ratios for you and suggest a new linking strategy, or permit you to make your own tour or something awesome. It's just freakin hard to know from outside.

Good luck

Elite Porn Reviews 09-17-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16330519)


Ok, but all humour aside..

Seriously, it's not cut and dry.. I'd look the tour over, hover and click and review each link on the tour. Yeah I know, I didnt make the tour and it should work perfectly, but if my traffic seems to hit a black hole on this tour, I'm checking it like it's mine. Like it's gold, like it's platinum. I'm clicking everything, and I mean EVERYTHING. I'm visiting the processor join page, I'm checking source codes, I'm asking my brother to go sign up for a month. Anything I can do to make sure the actual process of surfer joining = me depositing money. If it doesnt, and I've done my due diligence on my own behalf, I'm contacting the sponsor. You very well could help them uncover a problem for all ya know. Or they may break out some overall ratios for you and suggest a new linking strategy, or permit you to make your own tour or something awesome. It's just freakin hard to know from outside.

Good luck

Well this does make sense, but it's not one tour, it's 3 sites from a specific sponsor, and none of them are selling at all.

And when contact was tried with them, got very minimal response.

It's kind of sad what customer service has come to with some sponsors to be honest.

Elite Porn Reviews 09-17-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16330486)
On a review site? Never.

I'm glad you actually read the thread.

Tom_PM 09-17-2009 10:26 AM

Hmm I agree, it can be a speed bump getting some specific kind of help. Personally, in everything, it's all a matter of factoring out luck. Nobody wants luck, we want knowns and unknowns. So the common theme is all under one sponsor. Well, do they use the same processor as the better performing ones? Be good to know for your own info. Maybe they cascade billing different? Probably do, but again be good to know whats up there.

But it's good to go into it armed, so to speak, with some bits of data where you can say look, I've done all this to figure it out, and all I need to know is what <niche> site is your best and I'll try pushing it for another week. Maybe you have less joins, but they retain better. Good to know, so you could go revshare instead of PPS for instance. If you're a profitable affiliate, you want to know that.

I've found being on both sides of the deal, that it's a lot easier to get that specific help when you know the affiliate really has looked at a bunch of angles and are trying to be a good partner with you.

baddog 09-17-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Elite Porn Reviews (Post 16330533)
I'm glad you actually read the thread.

I answered the question. If it is not for your review site then disregard.


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