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whatif_3 09-21-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 16345495)
she is technically correct when she says it was a different company as the only ties Allied Systems had with GTBill are those on paper.

the paper is the important part


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Originally Posted by whatif_3 (Post 16345495)
the only "Allied Systems" payment processor on google is:

http://www.alliedsystems.net/

GTBill actually is part of a larger company, Allied Systems, which has been in the payment processing business for more than five years, processing for standard e-commerce companies, as well as some adult merchants.
http://www.xbiz.com/articles/93283

Same IP for both GTbill.com and Alliedsystems.net


Klen 09-21-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16346062)
You are aware that the only "skill" she has that makes her an ASSet to your sales team is all the horny webmasters who are willing to give you a try because she sends them custom videos of her dancing nearly naked, or fully naked...

If it works,don't change it :upsidedow

C-Luv 09-21-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16346062)
You are aware that the only "skill" she has that makes her an ASSet to your sales team is all the horny webmasters who are willing to give you a try because she sends them custom videos of her dancing nearly naked, or fully naked...

I can't wait Dom our COO it get back tomorrow. I am sure he will have a lot to say about this....

C-Luv 09-21-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16346059)
hey scott, how come you never hit me up on icq?

He never uses ICQ. Email him ; )

»Rob Content« 09-21-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 16346054)
I beg to differ, CLuv is an asset to our sales team. She is still learning the payment processing industry but that comes with time spent in the mix of things and learning the trade... but I am sorry you feel that way.

I'm not trying to flame, or get into the argument, but C-Luv mentioned in a thread before that she was in charge of the sales staff, or the office or something along the lines that she was in charge of a bit of staff, if this is true it would make me slightly nervous that someone has a lot of power, but also is still learning the payment processing industry....

ronin 09-21-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16346205)
I can't wait Dom our COO it get back tomorrow. I am sure he will have a lot to say about this....

WHY? is Scott done stickin-up for you today...Dom tomorrow...lol

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-21-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16346205)
I can't wait Dom our COO it get back tomorrow. I am sure he will have a lot to say about this....

What's he gonna do? Pull my processing?

C-Luv 09-21-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by »Rob Content« (Post 16346218)
I'm not trying to flame, or get into the argument, but C-Luv mentioned in a thread before that she was in charge of the sales staff, or the office or something along the lines that she was in charge of a bit of staff, if this is true it would make me slightly nervous that someone has a lot of power, but also is still learning the payment processing industry....

That was a joke.... But I am fully capable of answering questions you may have about your credit cards processing needs with GTbill. For the record I have over 8 years of sales and management experience plus 2 years in adult.

I went to Purdue University for school, I managed large corporations such as 24 hour fitness and American Family Insurance.

I also have 2 rental properties and have my own house that I bought when I was 19 years old. I think have qualification to handle accounts with Gtbill or manage GTbill once I am fully trained.

However, I am not familiar with anything to do with Allied Systems as that is not part of GTBill.

xenigo 09-21-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16345705)
Did you see the quote?



The part that confuses me is "the only ties Allied Systems had with GTBill are those on paper"

ONLY those ON PAPER.... :thumbsup

"no sir, that is not my company, my name just happen to be written on the paper as owner"

It's an interesting point. The only thing that ties me to my company is on paper too. What else is there? And if it weren't for a business license and bank accounts that are owned by me, in my company's name... what else would there be?

It's all paper...

C-Luv 09-21-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16346228)
What's he gonna do? Pull my processing?

No love... he values my hard work.

C-Luv 09-21-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ronin (Post 16346227)
WHY? is Scott done stickin-up for you today...Dom tomorrow...lol

No Dom Values my hard work

ronin 09-21-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16346294)
No Dom Values my hard work

oh, i was thinking he valued your assets. :1orglaugh

seeric 09-21-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16345624)
GTbill.com is not having problems at all : ) we are actually doing better than ever.

GTBill has nothing to do with any funds being frozen, once again we are not Allied Systems. Please understand that. GTBill was not processing for online gambling sites.

I had my thread deleted for this reason.

I was trying to do my job and then I had false information thrown into a positive thread.

I would appreciate people to please look over your facts before you say anything more negative about GTBill.com.

Say what ever you want about me but not GTBill

Thanks Kindly

Not sure why you are soliciting logic and fact checking on GFY. You're on the wrong board for that kind of responsibility. We've all dealt with GFY attacks. You should probably get used to it. My personal opinion anyhow. GFY isn't a place where anyone is owed anything. I think the sooner you realize that, the happier you'll be. :thumbsup

:2 cents:

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-21-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 16346309)
Not sure why you are soliciting logic and fact checking on GFY. You're on the wrong board for that kind of responsibility. We've all dealt with GFY attacks. You should probably get used to it. My personal opinion anyhow. GFY isn't a place where anyone is owed anything. I think the sooner you realize that, the happier you'll be. :thumbsup

:2 cents:

What are you on about? Did you actually check any of this out before posting?

lazycash 09-21-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16346259)
That was a joke.... But I am fully capable of answering questions you may have about your credit cards processing needs with GTbill. For the record I have over 8 years of sales and management experience plus 2 years in adult.

I went to Purdue University for school, I managed large corporations such as 24 hour fitness and American Family Insurance.

I also have 2 rental properties and have my own house that I bought when I was 19 years old. I think have qualification to handle accounts with Gtbill or manage GTbill once I am fully trained.

However, I am not familiar with anything to do with Allied Systems as that is not part of GTBill.

Part of representing a company is at times you're going to have to answer tough questions, having a thread closed because you felt overwhelmed isn't going to stop the questions. Nothing wrong with using your assets to garner attention for your company, but eventually that act wears thin for those seeking real answers about your company. With all that's gone wrong with processors in the last decade, you can't blame some for being over cautious on who they choose to do business with.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-21-2009 06:37 PM

Will Dom the "COO" be in tomorrow to answer questions in this thread?

»Rob Content« 09-21-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16346294)
No Dom Values my hard work

Making those vids is hard work eh?

C-Luv 09-21-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 16346418)
Part of representing a company is at times you're going to have to answer tough questions, having a thread closed because you felt overwhelmed isn't going to stop the questions. Nothing wrong with using your assets to garner attention for your company, but eventually that act wears thin for those seeking real answers about your company. With all that's gone wrong with processors in the last decade, you can't blame some for being over cautious on who they choose to do business with.

You are absolutely right about webmasters being cautious about who they choose when it comes to billing. That is why this is very up setting to me.

I didn't remove the thread because I was overwhelmed, I closed the due to the false accusations about GTbill.com. Me and the GTbill crew worked way to hard to build a good reputation..... My thread was completely highjacked . I was trying to have a positive business thread (I thought is what GFY is for)

We did answer the questions and still people feel they have all the answers in the 1st thread.

I appreciate your honesty and thanks.

ScottAtGTBill 09-21-2009 07:06 PM

I completely agree with you LazyCash, I cringed when I saw that the first post was deleted. We have nothing to hide and we will be happy to shed some light on your inquiring minds as soon upper management returns home from India tomorrow.

Every single person in this industry should be skeptical of their billing companies, due diligence is very important and I do respect that immensely. But theres a fine line between being skeptical and hurting an innocent company's reputation (especially when much of our business is based on reputation). I just get the feeling that some of the people posting in this thread are just praying to see another payment processor fail. Why would you want that? So you can have something to talk about for a week? That's definitely not a good mentality that anyone in this industry should carry. Competition among billers is a very good thing for webmasters as they end up the real winners, it pushes innovation and drives down costs. :2 cents:

C-Luv 09-21-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by »Rob Content« (Post 16346434)
Making those vids is hard work eh?

lol, not at all ; )

Wagerboy 09-21-2009 07:39 PM

yet another fail thread. I missed this place.

whatif_3 09-21-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16346259)
I managed large corporations such as 24 hour fitness and American Family Insurance.

you didnt manage large corportations, if anything, you managed a small staff

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16346205)
I can't wait Dom our COO it get back tomorrow. I am sure he will have a lot to say about this....

killswitch, your fucked now

Iron Fist 09-21-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16346062)
You are aware that the only "skill" she has that makes her an ASSet to your sales team is all the horny webmasters who are willing to give you a try because she sends them custom videos of her dancing nearly naked, or fully naked...

Really? I must be missing out! :Oh crap

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-22-2009 06:35 AM

:thumbsup

fris 09-22-2009 07:14 AM

cluv please explain the video of you showing off your cooter and your cat walking between your legs

jcsike 09-22-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 16346518)
I just get the feeling that some of the people posting in this thread are just praying to see another payment processor fail. Why would you want that? So you can have something to talk about for a week?

its true, after seeing 20 billing companies go under, that is what created a board full of cynics.

however, when nbc says things like 30 million of your money got frozen (and you can say hey, thats not us, thats just on paper, etc, but this xbiz article says your part of them http://www.xbiz.com/articles/93283), which brings up doubts on your stability + credibility

then c-luv (as sweet as she may seem) is representing you guys and gets attention by doing a striptease and not thinking before she posts as a company rep, deleting threads, the works

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16347894)
cluv please explain the video of you showing off your cooter and your cat walking between your legs

and you can whine about people on gfy being out to get you, but have you ever seen a billing company (or many banking institutions)promote their product with soft porn?

it may get the gfy peanut gallery hooting and hollering when she posts, but i dont think its the professional image you want to project as a billing company, especially when your up against a ccbill or epoch

my :2 cents:

Wizzo 09-22-2009 10:07 AM

Did someone say C-Luv butt pics? :winkwink:

C-Luv 09-22-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 16348365)
its true, after seeing 20 billing companies go under, that is what created a board full of cynics.

however, when nbc says things like 30 million of your money got frozen (and you can say hey, thats not us, thats just on paper, etc, but this xbiz article says your part of them http://www.xbiz.com/articles/93283), which brings up doubts on your stability + credibility

then c-luv (as sweet as she may seem) is representing you guys and gets attention by doing a striptease and not thinking before she posts as a company rep, deleting threads, the works



and you can whine about people on gfy being out to get you, but have you ever seen a billing company (or many banking institutions)promote their product with soft porn?

it may get the gfy peanut gallery hooting and hollering when she posts, but i dont think its the professional image you want to project as a billing company, especially when your up against a ccbill or epoch

my :2 cents:

I am sorry you feel I am unprofessional and misrepresenting GTBill.com. Please keep in mind that everyone has there own way of doing business. At the end of the day I am always kind, cutrious,professional and meet my clients needs.

Yes, I make striptease video's for my personal blog but not for GTbill.com. This is the Adult Industry....... I am not sure what is classified as professional when I am on a message board called Go Fuck Your Self. I also think people are not use to the fact that I am a younger female working in the adult billing. This is male dominated industry......

So far what I have been doing is working just fine for me. Everyone can have there own thoughts on this subject and I respect that.

I changed my avatar and will stop posting pic's and videos and will be a professional biller :thumbsup:thumbsup

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-22-2009 10:15 AM

where is dom?

TheAmericanCannibal 09-22-2009 10:20 AM

And this my friends is the perfect explanation of how these people who could not make it in mainstream, gravitate over to our industry.


This is something you'd never see in any mainstream company in America. A thread goes bad, and a girl shows her ass?

I could stomach that kind of abhorrent behavior if she was promoting a paysite for hardcore, shit I'd even condone it.

However when you are dealing with people's money, you need to be taken seriously and not seen as a whore or clown. That's my :2 cents:

I don't care how good someone's processing is, nor do I care how they can accept shady companies banging credit cards, I do care about how people represent themselves.

I wouldn't buy health insurance from a stripper in a club.
Why would I want to trust my money with a company who employs people who show their tits on public chat forums?

It's one thing to employ a loose chick who flirts for business, but this is kind of transparent.

C-Luv if you ever wanted to be taken seriously in this industry, this thread killed it.

Not hating, just making an educated opinion based off of 12 yrs in this business.
I have seen a lot of girls like you come and go....

Well mostly come anyway...

C-Luv 09-22-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 16348528)
And this my friends is the perfect explanation of how these people who could not make it in mainstream, gravitate over to our industry.


This is something you'd never see in any mainstream company in America. A thread goes bad, and a girl shows her ass?

I could stomach that kind of abhorrent behavior if she was promoting a paysite for hardcore, shit I'd even condone it.

However when you are dealing with people's money, you need to be taken seriously and not seen as a whore or clown. That's my :2 cents:

I don't care how good someone's processing is, nor do I care how they can accept shady companies banging credit cards, I do care about how people represent themselves.

I wouldn't buy health insurance from a stripper in a club.
Why would I want to trust my money with a company who employs people who show their tits on public chat forums?

It's one thing to employ a loose chick who flirts for business, but this is kind of transparent.

C-Luv if you ever wanted to be taken seriously in this industry, this thread killed it.

Not hating, just making an educated opinion based off of 12 yrs in this business.
I have seen a lot of girls like you come and go....

Well mostly come anyway...

I appreciate your thoughts...

MaDalton 09-22-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16348480)
I also think people are not use to the fact that I am a younger female working in the adult billing. This is male dominated industry......

don't play that card, it won't work. there a lot of other females in the billing busines, some of them quite young and also good looking. but i can't remember any of them not being a professional. and they get treated as such (just look at the girls who work for LocalBilling for example)

you posted a pic of your ass with a GTBill bikini when people asked legitimate questions. don't be surprised now when that gets you even more heat.

billing and hosting are the two things in this business where fooling around gets you less clients, not more.

i can't speak for others, but I rather discuss my billing needs with people like Doug Wicks, Andy Kiefer or Frank Gannon than with someone who puts up her ass in a business thread.

sorry, you're surely a nice person but if it's the business strategy of GTBill to use your looks as bait to get new clients then it's not working with me.

TheAmericanCannibal 09-22-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16348619)
don't play that card, it won't work. there a lot of other females in the billing busines, some of them quite young and also good looking. but i can't remember any of them not being a professional. and they get treated as such (just look at the girls who work for LocalBilling for example)

you posted a pic of your ass with a GTBill bikini when people asked legitimate questions. don't be surprised now when that gets you even more heat.

billing and hosting are the two things in this business where fooling around gets you less clients, not more.

i can't speak for others, but I rather discuss my billing needs with people like Doug Wicks, Andy Kiefer or Frank Gannon than with someone who puts up her ass in a business thread.

sorry, you're surely a nice person but if it's the business strategy of GTBill to use your looks as bait to get new clients then it's not working with me.

Agreed.

ie- Leslie K and Shaliza come to mind when thinking of beautiful women who don't have to flash their asses for processing $$$.

Although for so many years I wished....
:-))

»Rob Content« 09-22-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16348480)
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Yes, I make striptease video's for my personal blog but not for GTbill.com. This is the Adult Industry....... I am not sure what is classified as professional when I am on a message board called Go Fuck Your Self. I also think people are not use to the fact that I am a younger female working in the adult billing. This is male dominated industry......

Leslie Sharp
Aly Drummond
Lori Z
Shaliza
Sweetums
Twinkly
Tonda
Joan Irvine
Cyndalie
Becky who owns ARS and Hdpays
Kristi from Segpay "great chick in billing"
Heidi at rabbits reviews
Sarah at maxcash
Persian Kitty
Lady Mischief
Lubna
Cybersocket Holly
Laurel
ShellyCrash

These are just a few names off the top of my head of females in the adult industry that let their minds speak for them and not their body. Being an industry based on sex, and naked chicks, and etc, when you play the act that you play you become eye candy, and not someone who people think about doing business with.

These other companies that you ran, the fitness clubs and such, when it came time for an employee meeting, or to hire someone, or a marketing plan, did you put on a thong and a fitness club t shirt and shake your ass? I assume the answer is no.

If you want to have a fun blog, keep it separate, when you associate it with your company people look at you like they have all the other failed attempts at training someone hot to sway customers, each time they failed.

You portray yourself as talent, and not someone who is trying to get ahead in this industry. In your last job I forget the program name people would ask for sex and etc at shows for joins, and you'd say "whatever it takes!" or something along those lines.

No offense, but that's not someone I want handling my merchant account. I want someone professional, spot on, and can answer anything without flaw. Billing is the single most important part of this industry, and minus ccbill and epoch there has been a lot of fail, and shady dealing with billing over the past many years.

So, breaking into that market you want to bring the most professional approach as possible, not the "tee Hee hEe, look at my new videos lols......now sign up for billing"

It just don't work.

As KB said you come across as a hired whore, and no one is going to want that person dealing with their merch account.

B O B 09-22-2009 11:09 AM

You know, I have done some business with Cluv in the past and she has always been professional, and very helpful...I still have some business going which she set up.

Sly 09-22-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16348480)
This is the Adult Industry....... I am not sure what is classified as professional when I am on a message board called Go Fuck Your Self. I also think people are not use to the fact that I am a younger female working in the adult billing. This is male dominated industry......

There are a lot of women in this industry. And a lot of them have power. Pulling the "I am a female, you just can't handle it" card is very very weak and it's a slap in the face to all of the excellent women that started in this industry at your age and even younger.

By the way, you aren't that young.

kristin 09-22-2009 11:23 AM

I think when someone is new to processing especially they should focus on learning every aspect of it. People are weary to try new processors cause in the end that's where their money is and we have seen a lot of billing companies go out of biz.

If anyone is truly learning their product, they should stay off GFY and not post half nude pics, they should be training, learning, etc.

There are a lot of woman who have worked hard in this industry to build what we have today. If you are gonna post half naked pics, then you have to be able to back it up with FULL knowledge, professionalism, and be able to answer ANY question GFY throws at you.

C-Luv 09-22-2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 16348800)
I think when someone is new to processing especially they should focus on learning every aspect of it. People are weary to try new processors cause in the end that's where their money is and we have seen a lot of billing companies go out of biz.

If anyone is truly learning their product, they should stay off GFY and not post half nude pics, they should be training, learning, etc.

There are a lot of woman who have worked hard in this industry to build what we have today. If you are gonna post half naked pics, then you have to be able to back it up with FULL knowledge, professionalism, and be able to answer ANY question GFY throws at you.

Kristin I can and will answer any question regarding GTBill.com. Billing and payment processing is not were I have lack of knowledge.

What I can't answer is anything to do with Allied Systems as it has nothing to do with GTBill.com.

kristin 09-22-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16348864)
Kristin I can and will answer any question regarding GTBill.com. Billing and payment processing is not were I have lack of knowledge.

What I can't answer is anything to do with Allied Systems as it has nothing to do with GTBill.com.

About GTBill.com, can you answer any question about processing though?

BTW, I'm still waiting for the list of referrals I asked so we could look into implementing GTBill. : )

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-22-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Luv (Post 16348864)
Kristin I can and will answer any question regarding GTBill.com. Billing and payment processing is not were I have lack of knowledge.

What I can't answer is anything to do with Allied Systems as it has nothing to do with GTBill.com.

Look, the point of this thread is not to bust anyone's balls, I just don't understand how you can say Allied Systems has nothing to do with GTBILL when last night on ICQ you told me the same owner owns both companies and they share the same offices.

(Yes, they are different corporations and have different bank accounts, you kept repeating this point)

Furthermore, Allied Systems owns the trademark "GTBILL" as seen by the following link:

http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?r...entry=77438506

So to say GTBILL has NOTHING TO DO with Allied is kind of dumb in my book.


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