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spazlabz 09-23-2009 06:34 PM

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The DMCA has two major parts. The first makes it illegal to deal with "circumvention devices", devices that give you access to a copyrighted work. The second gives ISPs a "safe harbor" from copyright liability and litigation for hosting copyrighted files, as long as they take down copyrighted files quickly after being notified.
http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/DMCA/

would be interesting to see what might happen if someone told Rush Limbaugh that "democratic legislation" was making it EASY for unscrupulous, bad, dirty icky pornographers to give away FOR FREE..... THAT ANYONE CAN ACCESS EASILY..........ANYONE! material that has absolutely NO CONTROLS like a little thing call US Title18 Article 2257


Im just sayin, I wonder what would happen:question

spaz

Agent 488 09-23-2009 06:35 PM

maybe buy some spots on BROtube http://brotube.com

dready 09-23-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16354238)
Who is their current host?+


edit

SWIFTWILL.COM thats who to go after people.

Anyone having their takedown notices ignored may now sue the hosting provider for damages.

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Landmark Court Decision Holds Webhost Liable for Acts of Hosted Site

In a verdict handed down last week, the jury assessed damages totaling more than $32 million against hosting companies Akanoc Solutions Inc., Managed Solutions Group Inc., both in Fremont, Calif., and Steven Chen, the owner of the two companies. In awarding the damages, the jury agreed with Paris-based Louis Vuitton Malletier S.A.'s claims that the defendants knowingly allowed several Web sites they hosted to sell products that infringed Louis Vuitton's copyrights and trademarks.

spazlabz 09-23-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dready (Post 16354899)
Anyone having their takedown notices ignored may now sue the hosting provider for damages.

They don't ignore the notices, they remove the content when they are notified. But with literally thousands of tubes it is impossible to stop the dilution of contents value for anyone's sites


spaz

RK 09-23-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16354787)
And they aren't "skilled" enough to simply put their fucking affiliate codes on the videos. But they are "skilled" enough to crop the watermarks. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


They can't. That would be acknowledging copyright infringement.

They are a few steps ahead of you.

Supz 09-23-2009 10:36 PM

sounds like extortion

qxm 09-23-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dready (Post 16354899)
Anyone having their takedown notices ignored may now sue the hosting provider for damages.

Exactly..... that quote u posted above about the Louis Vuitton is what comes to mind every time I see these threads.... why hasn't anyone (content producers/sponsors) put a freaking lawsuit against that US based host? WTF? All I read in this board are complaint threads (not talking specifically about Tom's case) but haven't read anything about anyone taking action...... kinda like DMCA is as far as they are willing to go..... well not that I have any stake on the whole thing as I don't promote general niches but still.... sad 2 see these thiefs getting away with what they are doing and even more so ... thinking that they can steal content from sponsors and then sell ad space right back to them as if nothing ever happened...... kinda like that ass smothie thing.....yet no sponsor that I have heard of as of yet is willing to go as far as Louis Vouitton has to protect their intellectual property ........

I might be wrong about how many sponsors are taking action beyond DMCAs but heck....the whole impression I get is that no one gives a fuck as I still see those big tubes getting bigger and more robust with 20min + full length scenes...

Semi-Retired-Dave 09-23-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16354123)

WOW! That is just Sad. I still don't see how they are getting away with this.

RK 09-23-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16355416)
WOW! That is just Sad. I still don't see how they are getting away with this.

See qxm's post above.

ztik 09-23-2009 11:50 PM

Stop being a pussy and go after them

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-23-2009 11:52 PM

Calling out 50 thieves...

Ask Eric or Playboy/RealityCash/Adult.com/GFY if they care... :upsidedow

Thanks for speaking up 3xTom! :thumbsup

Maybe it's time for someone to set up a tube site which only links to Brazzers and Playboy/RealityCash/Adult.com, and other known content theft sites/enablers/contributary offenders vids, with "user submitted" videos.

That's called adapting, right? :error

What's good for the goose... :winkwink:

ADG

Tippy 09-24-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16354274)

All I can say is...I'm glad my stuff ain't up there.

Try katz, claudia is listed there... along with just about anything else.

Robbie 09-24-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 16355534)
Try katz, claudia is listed there... along with just about anything else.

I don't know what katz is :) Feel free to icq it to me so more people that might not know what it is won't discover it as well.

Tippy 09-24-2009 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16355541)
I don't know what katz is :) Feel free to icq it to me so more people that might not know what it is won't discover it as well.

katzporn.com

Vanillasky 09-24-2009 02:57 AM

where the fuck did this industry go ?

SleazyDream 09-24-2009 02:57 AM

sue them in small claims court for not paying your license fees.

it's not millions lost - it's hundreds or thousands.

a typical non exclusive license for one video like that is $50 to $100 - 6 videos about $300 to $500
be reasonable in your charges - and within what others in the market are charging

now imagine if they had to send a lawyer to EVERY small claims trial on non payment of licence fees....in 100 different states and countries


if you win and they dont' pay - seize assets to pay the bill - have the URL seized and sold at auction to pay your debt.

if you loose - they can't sue for more than $100 in legal for small claims in most areas- cost them several thousand or more to fight it.

if they don't show up - you win

so SUE - it's what $35 for small claims court filing fees.................you don't need a lawyer

Matyko 09-24-2009 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16354175)
Why is there no watermark. Did they crop them, or you didn't have watermarks on them?

don't you know? rogue uploader!!!

the Shemp 09-24-2009 03:59 AM

http://www.shemp.com/adapt.jpg

punkpred 09-24-2009 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ztik (Post 16355470)
Stop being a pussy and go after them

:2 cents:

Oracle Porn 09-24-2009 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16355706)
sue them in small claims court for not paying your license fees.

it's not millions lost - it's hundreds or thousands.

a typical non exclusive license for one video like that is $50 to $100 - 6 videos about $300 to $500
be reasonable in your charges - and within what others in the market are charging

now imagine if they had to send a lawyer to EVERY small claims trial on non payment of licence fees....in 100 different states and countries


if you win and they dont' pay - seize assets to pay the bill - have the URL seized and sold at auction to pay your debt.

if you loose - they can't sue for more than $100 in legal for small claims in most areas- cost them several thousand or more to fight it.

if they don't show up - you win

so SUE - it's what $35 for small claims court filing fees.................you don't need a lawyer

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seeandsee 09-24-2009 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 16355813)

:1orglaugh:Oh crap

3xTom 09-24-2009 06:30 AM

Hum.... Wondering why noone has answered my question yet?

selena 09-24-2009 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16356157)
Hum.... Wondering why noone has answered my question yet?



Awww, Tom, don't be a crybaby, honey. The somebodies are doing real business in Amsterdam right now. I'm sure they will get back to you as soon as they can.

3xTom 09-24-2009 06:54 AM

HAHAHHA Awesome Selena...

Ya know the question is quite simple

Can I Buy Ad Space On MY STOLEN Content..???

You would think someone could poke their head in and either say yes or no?

3xTom 09-24-2009 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 16355813)

I agree shemp 100% Thats why you will see nothing but ADAPT out of my camp over the coming months.... The kind of ADAPTION that will make all the affiliates some decent money again...

Traffic Junky 09-24-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16354123)

We don't offer advertising on specific videos (which I took the liberty to remove)

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16354227)
pornhub ignores take down notices

Do you have any content, have you ever made a take down notice?
Don't talk about something you have no clue.


As for Robbie... 3 POPS ? :D
Impossible, pornhub has 1 pop per day per IP and not through trafficjunky.

Trafficjunky currently only sells banner placement on-page

newbreed 09-24-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Junky (Post 16356344)
We don't offer advertising on specific videos (which I took the liberty to remove)

Thanks, saved me from sending a DMCA which I had started until I read your reply.

This one is still live - http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=832550271

3xTom 09-24-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Junky (Post 16356344)
We don't offer advertising on specific videos (which I took the liberty to remove)

First off thanks for replying and being honest with that answer as well as removing my content from pornhub...

But so I am clear on it

Basically If i buy ad space then for lets just say Raven Riley since that was what it started out asking for... Then my Raven Riley banner could be shown on lets take for instance this stolen video from Kates Playground

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...960eb8366bc118 ??

Is that correct? or am I missing something here?

Agent 488 09-24-2009 08:01 AM

give a mainstream landing page a try. probably work better than a paysite.

3xTom 09-24-2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16356459)
First off thanks for replying and being honest with that answer as well as removing my content from pornhub...

But so I am clear on it

Basically If i buy ad space then for lets just say Raven Riley since that was what it started out asking for... Then my Raven Riley banner could be shown on lets take for instance this stolen video from Kates Playground

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...960eb8366bc118 ??

Is that correct? or am I missing something here?

Also note:

Im not ONLY trying to be a little bit of a dick here :1orglaugh but I'm also trying to understand the advertising you guys are selling a little better..

I mean if My Raven Riley banner was shown on Kates STOLEN video I dont see getting any joins or monetizing that banner very well... If my banner was going to be shown on THAT video i would want to be advertising katesplayground.com Not RavenRiley.com ...

If I found a "NON STOLEN video" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
of a girl using a vibrating finger toy I would want to advertise a vibrating finger toy for sale NOT Raven Riley...

Just seems to me that monetizing my advertising dollars would be better spent doing it that way and not just posting a banner ad for something that is totally irrelevant to the content that you are displaying...

Traffic Junky 09-24-2009 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16356459)
First off thanks for replying and being honest with that answer as well as removing my content from pornhub...

But so I am clear on it

Basically If i buy ad space then for lets just say Raven Riley since that was what it started out asking for... Then my Raven Riley banner could be shown on lets take for instance this stolen video from Kates Playground

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...960eb8366bc118 ??

Is that correct? or am I missing something here?

Do you own Kates Playground ? If not, get the owner to ask for his video removed... And to answer your question, next to the video ads appear on every videos.

Traffic Junky 09-24-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16356522)
Also note:

Im not ONLY trying to be a little bit of a dick here :1orglaugh but I'm also trying to understand the advertising you guys are selling a little better..

I mean if My Raven Riley banner was shown on Kates STOLEN video I dont see getting any joins or monetizing that banner very well... If my banner was going to be shown on THAT video i would want to be advertising katesplayground.com Not RavenRiley.com ...

If I found a "NON STOLEN video" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
of a girl using a vibrating finger toy I would want to advertise a vibrating finger toy for sale NOT Raven Riley...

Just seems to me that monetizing my advertising dollars would be better spent doing it that way and not just posting a banner ad for something that is totally irrelevant to the content that you are displaying...

You will be please to hear that we will have niche/search term targetted advertising in the upcoming month... so you will be able to bid on let's say anal videos with anal sites and so on...etc

MVT 09-24-2009 08:28 AM

So your search will let me search for terms like "stolen video of raven riley" and then I can advertise or tom can for that site? sweet I am sure tom cant wait to monetize off his own stolen content.

can you add a feature as well so when your "users" are uploading content they can also get passwords to other sites just as a bonus for free?

beerptrol 09-24-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xTom (Post 16356219)
HAHAHHA Awesome Selena...

Ya know the question is quite simple

Can I Buy Ad Space On MY STOLEN Content..???

You would think someone could poke their head in and either say yes or no?

You'll have to OUTBID the others who want to profit off your stolen content:winkwink:

fris 09-24-2009 08:33 AM

are their any videos which you do own the rights to show?

seems like its ok until you get caught.

so basically i can have my banner on the same page as content you have stolen, so the money you earn from selling the spot is blantly ripping off the people who shot the content, and have no regard for other peoples work.

if your conversions are so good why dont you buy your content, but then again thats why you are selling ad spots, if it was so great would you really be selling them?

$100 pps days vs selling an ad spot, the payout would be much more compared to the money made on the ad spot.

MVT 09-24-2009 08:34 AM

man profiting from illegal items is very much against the law in canada btw. illegal gains from crime / fraud / misrepresentation is sooo what your doing...

you may just sell the ads, but your turning a profit from illegal items.. I may just have a road trip out to montreal soon :)

Agent 488 09-24-2009 08:44 AM

i think traffic junky is some kind of affiliate rep reality show where they give reps the most hostile potential customers ever to sell to and see how long they last.

spazlabz 09-24-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Junky (Post 16356544)
You will be please to hear that we will have niche/search term targetted advertising in the upcoming month... so you will be able to bid on let's say anal videos with anal sites and so on...etc

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
That answer is just so WRONG!


spaz

selena 09-24-2009 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Junky (Post 16356344)
We don't offer advertising on specific videos (which I took the liberty to remove)


That was soooooooooo kind of you to remove our stolen videos.

Now, you'll have to forgive me, because I am just a ditzy affiliate manager, but I am a little confused.

When I go to pornhub.com and do a search for Raven Riley, I see that the videos are indeed gone. I can also see some information on them, which shows that they have received a total of 2,511,693 hits. Most were uploaded 1 year ago, with one from 4 months ago, and one from 3 months ago.

You'll have to excuse me, but here is where dizty me gets confused. A year ago, Pornhub posted this your site:

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IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE PORNHUB TEAM
1 year ago
by: Dice

We have made some drastic changes over the past week in order to make sure Pornhub can remain your favorite Porn Site! Effective immediately, user uploads will go through an approval process where only videos less than 3 minutes and that we are able to give credit to the author is possible, will be accepted. Pornhub wants to remain the number one free porn community on the net, and if we don't implement some content rules, then we can't ensure that this community will have a long future.

We've been forced to remove all copyright & amateur content and while this might seem terrible right now, it does ensure that PornHub will be around for a long time and continue to be the premier porn site on the net.

More details to follow, please be patient as we implement some new features! We're very confident that you'll like the new changes coming up.

We're sorry if these changes cause any inconvenience, but give us a few days and everything will be back to normal and even improved.

regards,
PornHub Team
http://www.pornhub.com/blog/23

Now, what puzzled me about that is that you publicly announced that you were putting this approval process into place. If I read it right, your process would only allow users to upload vids that ran under 3 minutes in length, and you'd prefer to be able to give credit to the author.

That's a standup kinda guy process, and I applaud you for it.

But...

until you took the liberty of removing them, how was it that Raven had 2 videos that show posted a year ago that are over 10 minutes in duration?

I guess maybe your process guy didn't realize that they were over 3 minutes, and that it was Raven?

And I know there are such a thing as magic join links, but with your process in place, how did a surfer automagically upload a 10:06 Raven clip 4 months ago?

http://www.xxxkinkypics.com/pornhub2.jpg

Was the guy that handles your process having a bad day? Or was he just so tired from fapping it to stolen content that he overlooked it?

Traffic Junky 09-24-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by selena (Post 16356685)
That was soooooooooo kind of you to remove our stolen videos.

Now, you'll have to forgive me, because I am just a ditzy affiliate manager, but I am a little confused.

bla bla bla...

Was the guy that handles your process having a bad day? Or was he just so tired from fapping it to stolen content that he overlooked it?

At least 3xTom put up message I have pleasure to read and answer, serious questions...

This long message is just ... borring...We are an ad network, asking us about details on the site we sell advertising on is just like asking you why a certain model put up pink makeup and not purple... you are the affiliate manager, I know you have nothing to do with makeup... I am the ad network, nothing to do with content...


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