No, and you know it's silly to presume since someone said one thing, that they mean 100000 other things.

is 1 single frame from a movie the same value as a full movie?


i know it's copyright and all but these are 2 different types, so the analogy does not work.

What recourse does a current complainer have if they want a video off a tube site? Email them and ask for it to be removed? Fine. What if it's multiple videos? Wouldnt someone want to know who the fuck uploaded them all? Nobody wants any legal cover, OR legal recourse? Well for fuck sakes just say so and be done with it entirely.

LEGAL sites that accept user submitted content have to cover themselves and make the good faith effort of requiring uploaders to be in posession of the rights to distribute the content. Thats it! Thats all there is to it. Someone not going that half-step is clearly not intending to run a real legal operation, thats that.

You mean like? (first adult tube I looked at)
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You need an account to upload content to any tube software... unless someone has anon uploads. If you think it's not user uploaded, like all one user, you can nail the tube to the wall.

It's not different because it's youtube.

There you go! I could respect a tube site like that if it was not just lip service. Now please dont say it was from what people call an "illegal" tube site?

It's different because YOUTUBE TAKES ACTION!!

Exactly right.
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My content has been removed from every tube I have sent a notice to.

Forums, that's a different story.

Hey I'll tell you right now that I withdraw every complaint I ever made if every request for content removal was honored 100% of the time and promptly and efforts are made to prevent a reoccurence of the violation.

But it sure seems people got/get pretty riled when mention is made of just a few tube sites, so whats the difference with those sites?

head hits nail. no one is innocent of piracy or "stealing content" in one form or another. be it this industry or all those you named. take away every post, in every tube thread, made by someone that has done any of the above "stealing" and you are left with an empty thread.

i blame tubessssssss

keep reaching and trying to justify it. It's one thing to put up a copyrighted picture in your avatar cause you like it, it's another to take the same pic put it on a site and profit from it's use and not share the profit with the owner

It's one thing to steal, but only a real lowlife would steal from his/her peers... :2 cents:

If I took fubars pics and cropped of the marks and put up a site with all the images, well I think it's pretty obvious I'd be in the wrong. And even if Julius had taken a stick of gum from a nun as a kid, I think he'd have the right to kick my ass, lmao.

it's not different at all really. The only real difference is we know most "bad tubes" feed their content themselves not through user submits, thus using the dmca to bypass what would normally be "taboo" at best. But the same could be said for youtube, back in the "good old days" of the internet, using the excuse of "someone else uploaded it, and i wont/cant remove it unless you make a formal complaint using the following process spelled out in the dmca " wouldn't have gotten you very far.

Either way it harms the content owner and the value of the product.

ah but would it be totally legal to steal a thumb and use it as avatar though, i think... lol :1orglaugh

1. Placing a small image from a mainstream movie in your sig does not cause material harm to the copyright holder.

2. The image in the sig may or MAY NOT be used to promote a commercial purpose.

3. The poster probably isn't basing their entire business around stealing the small thumbnail from a mainstream movie.