Yep specially the French speaking Canadians ..Fuck em and Nuke em

Here ya go folks. Dust hasn't even settled and plans are in motion. At least after 9-11 they waited a day to enact the plans they had ready and waiting months before. I guess now those 400k pre-ordered soldiers will come in handy to go after these homegrown terrorists.

Nov 05, 2009
Counter-terror plans will be revised to reflect Fort Hood and Afghan attacks


A soldier turning on his comrades at Fort Hood, an Afghan policeman killing the British soldiers who trained him - two uncannily similar events in two days, but incidents which, across the Western world, security authorities have been planning for and dreading.

Since the Mumbai attacks counter-terrorism planning has seen a major shift. Those charged with thwarting or reacting to future terror attacks were alarmed by Mumbai. The shootings in Afghanistan and Fort Hood carry echoes of the attacks in India with the added danger that the enemy has come from within.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/crime...-attacks-.html

It doesn't really seem unreasonable to me that he was able to kill and injure that many before being taken out.. It's a training facility that means the only guns are the ones on the ranges or that aren't functioning for marching and formation training. And if it's true it was some graduation ceremony then all the more "open targets"

Sad... very sad.

Is it absolutely necessary for you to always be spreading you poisonous lunacy? Cant you keep your rancid fever dreams in your own damaged brain and stop trying to infect the rest of us with whatever is wrong with you? :disgust

I do realize it's difficult to have any critical thinking skills but can you at least try?

Very bad taste, even for a fake nick troll.

Well, you would THINK that with all those GUNS around, someone would have SHOT that/those motherfucker(s), right? C'mon gun advocates, ain't you the ones always sayin': "Oh, if EV-ER-Y-WON was armed & dangerous there would be no more shootings"?

Fascinating.

Welcome to Obama's America


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Now wait a minute, lets not be too hasty here.

Lets just nuke New Jersey first, and see how well that works out. There are a lot of hot women in Texas and some pretty good fishing. Would be a shame to mess that up.

Soldiers aren't allowed to be armed on the base. Not in the sense that they can walk around armed that is. Only the MPs.

You are a fucking idiot (I realize that is not a new development :winkwink:). Military bases have extremely tight controls on weapons and there very few weapons around except for those held by military police.

Ah fuck you, like this had anything at all to do with Obama.

It was a Muslim Psychiatrist (of all people, though they snap often). Apparently showed previous signs of distress and possibly was mocked a bit by others. This was before his first deployment. Considering he is still alive and not dead, we will get more info.

As for the gun comment. Nobody aside from the MP's are walking around armed with live ammo. Especially in the area that they were in. With a trained soldier of course, surprised he was not able to kill more with two handguns. The body count could/would of been very different if it were not for the armed MP's.

Really?? Then I completely, totally and 100% APOLOGIZE for that ignorant comment of mine. Please forgive.

A prayer for the victims.

muster up the firing squad.

Agreed. This has nothing to do with partisan politics. I strongly disapprove of Obama but he has nothing to do with this tragedy. That is absurd. :disgust

I sort of miss the days where newsrooms actually got their stories fact checked before they went on air with 'facts'. Stories like this show how the rush to be first gets in the way of reporting an accurate story.

there weapons are not non functioning you just don't get any ammo unless your at the range or authorized to carry a loaded weapon. like a military police officer. or an armory guard. outside of that your just carrying empty weapons


I was stationed at Ft Hood before getting out! It was huge compared to the other bases I was stationed at Camp Lejeune and Norfolk Naval Base maybe 10 times the size of camp lejeune for anyone that has been stationed there

The spin on this will sling shit for miles.......

It will interesting to see who get splattered.

Australia's Daily Telegraph:

The postings appeared to have been made by Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who was wounded during the shootings at Fort Hood, Texas.

Hasan was earlier thought to have been killed during the massacre.

One of the officials said that federal search warrants were being drawn up to authorize the seizure of Hasan's computer. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.

"To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its (sic) more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."

No shit. Multiple shooters witnessed, lone gunman, gunman has been dead for hours and now suddenly he's alive. Turning out to be a classic false flag.

Actually, the media was told by a Ft Hood spokesperson at the first news conference that the shooter was killed. The Army did not correct this, even though they knew otherwise, until another news conference about four hours later.

The blame for this misinformation lies with the military spokesperson, not the media. :2 cents:

ADG

Can you elaborate on that? I noticed that at one point they were reporting 12 dead, then it dropped to 11. What else did they get wrong?

Yea a classic false flag where the government fails to control the narrative and allows multiple conflicting reports to come out and muddy the waters. Nice detective work Sherlock. :1orglaugh

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Oh thats right we need to wait for the "official story"

Not only was he muslim, biochemist and a psychologist but also graduated from Virginia Tech. Hows that for a patsy if you ever seen one?

The alive/dead thing didn't bother me that much and I don't even blame the FBI for perhaps intentionally not saying he is alive. Especially when they were themselves starting an investigation.

I was following the story, obviously because of the start time of the thread, since it first broke and from there it has been nothing but speculation. Which, is not at all something unique to this story these days. It is something that I find really frustrating in this age of 24 hour news. When I went to journalism school my professors would go nuts if every fact we presented hadn't been researched. Obviously,with the need to be the first news station to broadcast a 'fact' they just don't do fact checking in breaking news things these days or at least not to the level they should. So, you have the guy's name in the wrong order for ages, you have speculation on where he was deployed, when..his religion, how long he has been following that religion, etc. All things which spending a decent time developing a story off the air would negate or at least if you got it wrong it wasn't for not trying your best. They go live on air with guests they should have done more screening on. They take calls from so-called witnesses that get air time even though they are simply somebody who lives nearby that knows somebody that somebody told something to.

It is just the way things are now but drives me nuts. I am a news junkie and I love the buzz of a breaking story but I like getting researched reporting rather than just people filling air time until they can report a 'fact'.

That's because the story was fed to them by the government. They are "repeaters" not "reporters"

Looking like they needed to silence the "lone shooter"

The gunman who killed 12 people today at Ft. Hood appears, based on current media reports, to be Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan who was listed as a participant in a Homeland Security Policy Institute's presidential transition task force last year.

The task force was not officially affiliated with the White House. It was a project of the Homeland Security Policy Institute, an independent thinktank housed at George Washington University, aimed at drafting policy recommendations for the incoming Obama administration.

According to the task force's May 2009 report [pdf], a "Nidal Hasan" from the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine was a task force event participant. Other participants included Senate and House staffers, Department of Homeland Security officials, Defense Department officials, and reporters for Politico, the Washington Post, and the London Times.

http://gawker.com/5398253/nidal-hasa...er-preparation

Fuck me you conspiracy people are fucking weird and fast to draw one up.

Watch, he had the secret to H1N1 and was going to blow it open.

Use some common sense. They've been saying all day this guy was dead and some army reject but now that it's coming out he's recently been promoted and was on a homeland security think tank for the incoming president it's kind of hard to paint him as a homegrown terrorist don't ya think?

I'm sure they are going to try and keep on spinning it though. I'd lay money on this guy never making it to trial but first he's not going to remember much, if anything, about what went on today.

its fucked up

Nevermind, just read the more recent reports. Crazy.

Lone gunman eh? And how did this mutherfucker get 2.5 miles away from a secure base after a mass shooting?

(CNN) -- A senior officer who was playing golf Thursday near Fort Hood, Texas, told CNN he witnessed the arrest of one of the two surviving suspects of the shooting at the Army installation.

Shortly after the shooting, the officer said, military police told him to clear the course and he saw other MPs surround the building that held the golf carts, he said.

The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.

He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.

He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter.

The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.

The golf course is about 2.5 miles from Fort Hood, the officer told CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/05/...ood.witnesses/

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:2 cents: :winkwink:

ADG

First - you're an idiot.

Secondly, if he was quick enough, he may have been able to drive off post before the gates received word of the shooting. Most likely, considering that he was only a couple of miles away, he simply picked a direction and walked. It's not as if a post the size of Fort Hood is fenced in.

To clarify, a soldier (not a war) hardly ever sees their weapon unless they're at a firing range to re-qualify, or, more often, when they are in the field doing training, in which case they wouldn't be supplied ammunition.

Post versus base: When I was in the Army, (stationed at Fort Hood, by the way) we always said 'post.' The Army had posts, the Navy had bases. But today, even army.com refers to Army installations as bases.

Don't know how accurate it is, but it says two suspects.

That sounds like something straight out of the Fox hymn book.

It is like seeing how quickly a conversation can go from grown up table to psych ward.