Not to worry, $15,000 in 2016 will be worth today's dollar. :helpme

Oh shnap, fiddy!

Sorry I did not see my posts in that thread either. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else?

What did you say before about brain dead people? :winkwink:

Ha ha. Good point. :thumbsup

I have nothing to refute about that. Your title was misleading and still is. That should have been your title (or something more compact). You purposely left out an important fact to try and make your point.

I'll let you get back to regurgitating the daily talking points.

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The title was an oversimplification......... there is no denying that. I was probably up to something insidious like trying to get people to read my post. :winkwink:

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Thinking the same thing ... I hope he has health care insurrance :winkwink:

blind obedience+stupidity=liberalism.

Just because the feds put penalties into law doesnt mean they get enforced. Name one person in jail solely because of a 2257 violation, a law mandating 5 years in jail.
Prisons are overcrowded enough that many states release nonviolent prisoners early.
So the idea that people will do time for not buying insurance from a price gouging, claims denying insurance company...that is the true delusion in this thread.

The + Demon = Moron

Stupidity does not quite explain it. More like willful ignorance. :2 cents:

^I rest my case. ROFL

Thanks again Arnox!

How many people are in jail for tax evasion? Because thats what this is. Nothing compared to a 2257.

People in jail on tax evasion do so because of big money numbers, not because someone skipped out on an insurance invoice.
when the day arrives when someone goes to jail for evading healthcare taxes/penalties/insurance/whatever, bump this thread & call me wrong.
Its not going to happen. They waive time for people doing DWI, so dont think for a second anyone will sit in jail for evading health insurance/taxes/penalties/whatever.

You should learn to comprehend, or just read if you do not understand the topic. :2 cents:

Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back, this hasn't exactly been a secret. They've been saying that for quite a while.

I'm not, I'm just sick and tired of people running off at the mouth about how great it's going to be when these dumb fucks pass these bills when they have no fucking idea what the real motives behind it all is. They live in this false fucking reality of Obama is going to make everything all right everyone will have cheap and free health care. blah blah blah. I'm sick and tired of it. Damn near ready to leave this fucking country.

It's called liberalism, and it's been the butt of virtually every joke in America since the end of the 60's.

However, I AM objective and I WILL state that the same goes on when a Republican is president. Blind obedience, ignorance, and stupidity dominate America.

Or conservationism. They are both different sides of the same coin.

I'm not going to get into it all right now because honestly I'm tired of explaining shit to people. But let me tell you something. We don't have more than the entire world behind bars because we are doing things right by making more laws. You want to know the reason we do? Because of bonds and securities which are sold on prisoners. Ahh fuck I want to get drunk and forget about all this bullshit rather than explain how things work to you so here ya go read up

How a Prisoner Funds America
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/priso...a03oct04.shtml

That's just a needle in the haystack

Conservationism? Lol I think you mean conservatism. And while they are on different ends of the spectrum, one makes more sense than the other.

LOL spell check fucked me over and I was too lazy to notice. You are correct. I meant conservatism.

And no, blind conservatism doesn't make any more sense than blind liberalism.

Here are two examples. Tell me how one is better than other.

During this last election I saw both of these things on the news.

Liberal- A person they were interviewing basically was explaining how Obama was going to save them and give them hope and provide for them. Forget getting a job or going back to school or working hard, they wanted Obama and the democrats to take care of them and they believed it was going to happen and that they were "owed" this. That is stupidity.

Conservative- In Ohio they talked to several people in an area that was traditionally conservative. They talked to 5-6 people during this report and every one of them said the same thing. They said that they thought Obama was the smarter guy who had better ideas and was the better choice to be president. However, they can't bring themselves to vote for anyone that is pro-choice so they were voting for McCain. When further asked they agreed that no matter how qualified a candidate is they will never vote for someone that is pro-choice. And no matter unqualified a candidate might be if they are pro-life and running against a pro-choice candidate they will always vote for that person. That is stupidity.

There is money being made off of prisons and prisoners, at the cost of the tax payers, but it is not the reason there are so many people in jail.

There are so many people in jail because our legal system is political device. Many judges and most DA's in this country are elected. During election years you hear about prosecutions and you hear various other politicians brag about how "tough on crime" they are. These people all want to be elected and one of the best ways to do that is to convince the voters you will put people in jail. So when you then get elected you have to do exactly what you have said you will do or you won't get elected again. This is one of the reasons we have the death penalty. People want to know bad guys are being put in jail, it helps them sleep well at night, and these politicians are simply giving the people what they want.

That there are people making money off of it is just a byproduct of the political system.

Pay your dues bitch and quit moaning!

There are many one issue voters...and I can understand why. I can see how I could be a one issue voter...if it were an issue that I felt strongly about.

Keep believing the deception.

You really believe that there is a group of people who are telling DA's, police and various law enforcement to just arrest and jail people so they can make money? You really believe that we have all the laws we have on the books because this "group" wants to make more money and having more people in jail helps their bank account?

If so why is there such a shortage of jail space? Why are they always letting people slide and not sending them to jail or letting them out early because they don't have anywhere to put them? Why not invest some of this money and build new prisons or expand the existing ones?

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http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video.../v/aY7Nji-zzhg

You dont have to tell anybody anything if they believe that's the way things are and should be... They are just doing the job they are told to do.


I didn't even look at your link but as long as you have that name you mean nothing in real life. Sort of like him..

So these wealthy people have created a system that includes a bunch of laws that will put people in jail so they can make money off of them and everyone in that system just goes along with it and is not bright enough to see what is happening?

And still, if it is so lucrative why are they not building more prisons and jails? Why turn people loose that could be in jail? Surely the cost of another jail is nothing compared to what they are making off the prisoners and I'm sure they can word everything just right and get the tax payers to pay for it.

Speaking of laws...it has probably been 20 years ago...that I read there were more than ten million laws/ordinances on the books nationally...from city to county to state to federal laws/ordinances. When one considers that each law/ordinance restricts something...one can wonder how we can call ourselves a free country. In my life I have had many...many more problems with city and county laws/ordinances than I have ever had with state or federal laws/ordinances.

Holy shit are we having a break through here? :1orglaugh

I have several friends that are cops and they all tell me that there are enough laws on the books that they can pull just about any car over at just about any time they want and have a legit reason for doing it. It is pretty crazy when you think about everything that is on the books out there. I'm sure a lot of these laws have never even been enforced and most people don't even know they exist.

Still no answer?

If it is so profitable why are they not constantly building more jails and prisons. There is a ton of money going to waste every day when they let people off that should be going to jail or they release people early from jail because there is no room for them.

Dude we have 4% of the population and more than the world in jail and empty prisons... Do you not remember the ordeal recently where some fraud was trying to take control of one?? Our entire system is based on fraud. Why do people get released because the sheriffs department is not a part of the scam. Well in most cases anyway. ... The person with the most power within your county even more power then the president is your county sheriff. If his jail is full by these fools over doings he cuts them loose.. You don't have to believe me. You're going to see it before you very eyes... Keep your eyes open.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/234270...he_new_ye ar/

you ignorant fool, here watch this alex jones video

But you just said that there is a powerful group that is running all of this from behind the scenes as a for-profit system. They could easily build another jail or expand a jail and give a local sheriff all the jail space he could use and they in turn would make more money. But for some reason the don't.

If I have an investment that is paying off wholesale, I look for ways to grow it. If I see loopholes that are costing me money, I look to close them. Why is this "group" that is running things not doing so?

Look into why those people wanted the deal to continue. It's all about money (pieces of paper). Yes even after they knew dude was a fraud they wanted to continue... Even after it became public knowledge he was a fraud..

Ok, now you have officially lost me. I just want to know why they don't build more prisons and make more money. I don't know who you are talking about as far as a dude being a fraud.

You have said there is a "group" who profits greatly from creating tons of laws and seeing a lot of people in jail. Yet every day hundreds of people are either let out early or given some alternate sentence because the jails are too crowded to take them. They could be making so much more money if they just build some more jails, but for some reason they don't. Why?

Dude you give up your rights at the age of consent. In reality your rights are given up at birth with your birth cirtificate which is how you become a ward of the state. If you don't know the law from that point on which is kind of easy to do since they don't teach you this shit you give up your rights.

Dear Canadian idiot, here in America, the Democratric "bill" being voted on today carries the manditory language.
This thread is about the bill. No one said it passed. If you can't understand that much, stay the fuck out of the thread.

See this is the beauty of you. I ask a question, you deflect.

I'm not asking about wards of the state or my personal rights. This is what I want to know:

If there is a group of people out there controlling the legal system in this country and using it as a way to make money why are they not building more prisons and making more money. If you are going to go to the the effort of getting these laws passed so you can get people arrested, why would you not provide a place for them to sit in jail so you can make money?

You're not seeing the beauty of your question. I stated before you even asked that there were prisons sitting empty. Now why don't they fill them? Because their game is up.. Like I said watch and see.. They cant pay for what you/we don't provide....

I thought they controlled everything though. How can the game be up?

New scam.. global warming..

I do think the health care bill teetered out of control. Instead of passing reforms to deal with the fraud, gouging, & perverse incentives to perform more tests & procedures, the dems created another massive expansion of federal power at the same moment the deficit is at 1.6 trillion for the year.
Both parties are wrecking our country in the name of their own special interests. Repubs bleed us for big corporations & defense, while dems bleed us for big government & unions. Voting is nothing but picking your poison.

ROFL. PRICELESSS!!

Also, you guys need to stop being conspiracy theorists.

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The bill has now passed in the House of Representatives.

Oh no! Nothing will ever be the same again!

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